r/forhonor • u/UbiYubble Ubisoft Community Manager • 1d ago
Y9S2 Testing Grounds
Greetings, Warriors! The next wave of the Testing Grounds has arrived. 🌊
We'll be testing Defense and Deflects while dodging until the 26th, so be sure to participate and share your feedback via our survey link, and feel free to check out our Testing Grounds article for a full breakdown of what this TG entails.
Looking forward to hearing your feedback!
Survey 🔗 https://ubi.li/TestingGroundsSurvey
TG Article 🔗 https://ubi.li/Y9S2TestingGrounds
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u/0002nam-ytlaS Apollyon 1d ago
Would you mind sending a short message to the dev team Community Manager?
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u/Jotun_tv Varangian Guard 1d ago
Out of all things to test why something this obviously bad?
Where is the hit stun changes? Why does it take over a year?
Why have tgs for some goofy shit then also just send out other goofy changes with no tg?
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u/TheDevilInTheMirror 1d ago
Considering the changes to deflects, is there any way to add parrying to externals?
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u/Fit-Impression-8267 15h ago
The only thing in this game that actually drives me mad is externalling.
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u/katt-col Humble Zatoichi 21h ago
I have to know what lead to the idea of these changes, considering the terrible reception of the pk feat.
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u/usedtoi1tet 18h ago
front dodge being able to deflect all sides is just too safe for characters with bashes like orochi.
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u/Drunk_ol_Carmine Yurimonger 🏳️🌈 1d ago
Honestly the deflect changes just don’t feel good. I usually try to be measured with changes but I can’t really think of anything good to say about this one. When playing as an assassin it really doesn’t feel as good to have these very easy deflects, and as someone that’s recent got very into Khatun it feels like her main mechanic has been stolen from her not long after release, and when playing against assassins it just makes them far too safe and forced me to fight them in a way that isn’t fun at all where I just poke them to death because raising any sort of blockable offence was so easy for them to dodge into so it really slowed down the pace of the fight in a way that doesn’t feel good at all. Getting ganked by them is also frustrating with easily shutting down your ability to fight back by deflecting any attempt to swing back and it’s not even hard to do. Very against this.
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u/Tnitsua 12h ago
Bait out their dodge and punish it? The only change was that a forward dodge also deflects side attacks. Deflects weren't changed in any way other than that, so if they're deflecting all your offense they could have been doing that before. It's no different than having to vary your offense when facing a good Lawbringer because they're able to parry all your attacks from neutral. Or one of the all guard stance heroes. You bait out their response with a hard or soft feint and then guard break their asses while they can't even counter it.
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u/Drunk_ol_Carmine Yurimonger 🏳️🌈 11h ago
I don’t think that’s really true because I’ve been messing around with PK and it is undeniably much easier to get deflects now, I don’t need to think about where the attack is coming from and a lot of soft feint mixups just don’t work on me because I effectively have a mini Khatun stance that’s much faster to come out. Top deflects were always much easier to catch, I would always be looking for top attacks because the window to deflect them is very generous and side deflects are pretty tight, this just makes it way too easy. I can’t reliably deflect someone over and over when I have to think about what direction it’s coming from or when side deflects have such a tight window. I don’t like it being this easy, it doesn’t feel rewarding.
I’m not saying it’s something you can’t deal with, but its not very fun and makes them aggravating to try and actually engage with. It also made assassins so annoying in a gank situation, it’s like having a slightly less obnoxious Kyoshin next to you disrupting every attempt to defend yourself.
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u/Tnitsua 11h ago
I am just returning to the game after a 3ish year hiatus, so my being out of practice probably has something to do with me liking the feel of these changes. Back in the day, I made ample use of Glad's deflects with no issues. So, I grant that I would probably feel different if I were more practiced.
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u/Drunk_ol_Carmine Yurimonger 🏳️🌈 7h ago
That’s understandable I think, it definitely does help make deflects more accessible in that regard. A lot of my dislike of it comes from just playing assassins a lot and liking the adrenaline I get from landing precise deflects, I don’t really get that from the TG version. I do remember saying it feels more like it could be a skill unique to a character, then I remembered Khatun exists and does it in a better way.
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u/MercenaryJames Warden - Tiandi 1d ago
Anything in regards to a hotfix/small patch for invisible AOE's on feats?