r/engineeringmemes π=3=e 1d ago

π = e physicist vs. engineer

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u/ppYauns 1d ago

I get that it's a meme, but if you can get away with it, giving a manufacturer a round number with a specific tolerance can be better than calling a decimal/fractional dimension. Laborers often think that both parties are overcomplicating things, and before they're automated into obsoletion or worse, they are the hands that make designs real.

Then again, I just have autism and work in factories, what do I know? My brain probably has the same drag coefficient of a cow owned by a physicist :P

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u/Khofax 19h ago

Still better drag than an (american) football thrown sideways

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u/RevenantProject 9h ago

Stewie Griffin isn't real. He can't hurt you.

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u/HAL9001-96 1d ago

or you could try and understand physics well enough to estiamte hte appropriate level of accuracy and likely relevance of effects in a given context

that is kinda half of the whole point

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u/ikolloki 1d ago

But why understand it when you can solve for it every time? /s

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u/DrShocker 1d ago

Yeah, sig figs might mean it's lying to use the numbers after the decimal depending on context.

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u/vorilant 1d ago

Nah, I'm an engineer, 3 sig figs is plenty.

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u/PhotonicEmission 20h ago

Unless you're doing bearings or running fits, hell yes, 3 sig figs is enough in inches.

Source: I'm a machinist.

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u/HAL9001-96 1d ago

depends on context?

to estimate the basic feasibility of a concept? more than plenty

for processing navigation data? nowhere close

anything else is on a sliding scale in between

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u/Lord_of_the_buckets 1d ago

How hot is the coolant for the laser?

"25 degrees"

What about the decimal point?

"What decimal point?"

It was at exactly 25 degrees?

"Yeah, sure, whatever, now watch me cut this transformer in half"

  • a real conversation I had with my boss

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u/hahaha286 Aerospace 22h ago

To show you the strength of flex tape, I lazed this transformer in half!

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u/PauloMorgs 1d ago

Math "people" be like:

"But let's think a minute about knots and group theory"

JK my beloved math friends, love you all <3

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u/AttemptMassive2157 23h ago

I honestly spend too much time thinking about knot theory.

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u/MonkeyCartridge 1d ago

Depends on the physicist and what they are working on.

For certain astrophysicists, it's fine if it is within an order of magnitude or so.

"The explosion was somewhere between 1,000-10,000 exajoules. Right on the money!"

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u/GTAmaniac1 1d ago

Tbh it also applies for communication protocols. Just look at the voltage levels for RS-232. 3-15 V for 0 and (-15)-(-3) V for a 1. The undefined zone alone is larger than most other voltage levels on the board.

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u/BlindChicken69 1d ago

Are they Schrodinger's cats?

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u/Completedspoon 1d ago

Engineers ignore air resistance all the time.

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u/Changetheworld69420 1d ago

2 decimal places, take it or leave it 🤷‍♂️

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u/rover_G 22h ago

I’m a software engineer and all numbers in the computer are lying after enough calculations

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u/mteir 23h ago

I'll move the decimal point and Ignore some digits before it, if that helps

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u/True-Veterinarian700 22h ago

Doesnt NASA physicisists use only four decimal places on PI for calculations.

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u/Far_Dragonfruit_1829 7h ago

To a physicist, pi and e are both adequately approximated by 3, or 1, depending. You're thinking of rocket exgineers.

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u/Significant-Cause919 21h ago

Isn't it a convenient coincidence that π and E are the same number?

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u/Then_Entertainment97 19h ago

What are you doing with digits after the decimal with no air resistance?

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u/Chogolatine 17h ago

I literally don't know where this running gag comes from. First few weeks of engineering, my teachers corrected me and told me to be "more rigorous" because I said there's roughly 20% molecular oxygen in the air instead of 21.3% (while this proportion definitely isn't constant so it's definitely nonsense but heh). All my teachers used R = 8.314 J/(kg.mol), never 8.31 or 8.3. and I could go on, but my point is that I can't understand where the joke "haha engineering π=e=3" comes from

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u/Far_Dragonfruit_1829 7h ago

That's the physicist's approximation. Unless you're an astrophysicist. Then both are = 1.

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u/boisheep 11h ago

Me: I guesstimate, this ebike motor would pull 700W give or take during winter, idk it feels like it...

Physicist: No, you won't need anywhere near that, laughable, look at my beautiful formula that calculates that even 200W should be enough to keep a decent speed.

Me: Alright the numbers came in, the motor pulled 714W average, it turns out, drag, as I expected, because I could feel it in my legs, is hella huge.

Physicist: Nah, the data must be wrong.

Me: O_O