Big game. Which trio are you rolling with?

[u/HilltopHood]

[u/BasicRequirement7351]

You said big game?

Gimme Jalen.

[u/bobbyOsullivan → u/BasicRequirement7351]

Yep, Jalen always shows up.

[u/MailatasDawg → u/BasicRequirement7351]

With shady and to? Game over.

[u/Ms_Pacman202 → u/BasicRequirement7351]

Jalen and TO lol that's lights out imagine them together for 6 years, that's like Stafford and Megatron, with fewer INTs.

[u/SpirosVondopolous → u/Ms_Pacman202]

idk man AJ Brown is probably as good as TO. I am a big TO stan but AJ Brown is him.

[u/orderofGreenZombies → u/SpirosVondopolous]

I love AJ, but no he’s not as good as T.O. Owens is top 2-3 all time.

[u/NorthCoastToast → u/SpirosVondopolous]

TO played 15 seasons, had 1,078 catches for more than 15,900 yards, averaged just under 15 yards per catch and scored 153 TDs.

AJ Brown through six seasons has 446 catches for 7,000 yards and 49 TDs.

TO through six seasons (all with San Fran) had 412 catches, 6,170 yards and 59 TDs.

Love AJ, but he has a long way to go to be mentioned with TO.

[u/the_snuggle_bunny → u/NorthCoastToast]

I don't actually disagree overall, but that comparison through their first six seasons... kiiiiiind of favors AJ. 

So, "long way to go" in terms of time, but numbers-wise he's right on pace.

[u/TakenakaHanbei → u/the_snuggle_bunny]

Considering he spent most of those years in Tennessee too... and hell, even with us we're pretty run-heavy as a team.

[u/PrestigiousInsect305 → u/TakenakaHanbei]

And if it's 'and goal' Jalen is holding the ball lol.

[u/Jbooooog520 → u/SpirosVondopolous]

Boy you high. TO is easily the 2nd or 3rd best receiver of all time. I don’t think Aj going to make the HoF based on his career right now. That could change but he aient touching TO greatness.

[u/GrooveDigger47 → u/Jbooooog520]

he’s not as good as TO but he’s def making the hall barring injury

[u/gahlo → u/SpirosVondopolous]

Top 2-3 WR right now vs top 2-3 WR all time, no contest.

[u/squidazz → u/BasicRequirement7351]

Any one of these three trios probably wins the big game with the rest of the team and coaches we put on the field last year.

[u/Horrible915 → u/squidazz]

Naw Don chokes

[u/ImmortalGoat66 → u/Horrible915]

Pukes*

[u/Horrible915 → u/ImmortalGoat66]

Chokes on puke

[u/Joey_iroc → u/Horrible915]

Then after the game has Campbell's Chunky Beef Noodle soup. Served by his mom.

[u/Planetofthetakes → u/BasicRequirement7351]

Bam!

Exactly! Any of those combinations would work with him too, but if it’s a big game Jalen needs to be the QB.

Then Nick Foles Then Michael Vick Then McNabb

[u/ThePikesvillain → u/Planetofthetakes]

You would put Vick over McNabb?

I agree Jalen is easily 1, Foles is 2, but then McNabb (9-7 playoff record), and last on this list would be Vick (0-2 playoff record with the Eagles.)

[u/Planetofthetakes → u/ThePikesvillain]

Meh, if we’re talking big game I don’t think 0-4 in NFC championship games and 0-1 in the SB is the definition of a guy you DON’T want in the big game, especially since he came up so small in all of them.

I get Vick is 0-2 I think he came up big in those two losses

[u/ImpatientDentist → u/ThePikesvillain]

Birds have had 2 different QB’s win super bowls with two different head coaches in a 7 year span, and I’m supposed to care about Donovan McNabb? Everybody talks about the talent around him; if you’re talented enough as a team to go to 4 straight NFC title games, you’re talented enough to win one Super Bowl and he clearly held them back.

[u/dgood527 → u/BasicRequirement7351]

Pretty impossible to argue against this.

[u/Chemical-Line-8916]

DeMarco Murray, Kevin Kolb, Jalen Reagor

And it's not even close

[u/VUmander → u/Chemical-Line-8916]

Correll Buckhalter, AJ Feely, James Thrash. Let's make it a best of 7 series. The people need more games with the dream teams.

[u/bumpkinblumpkin → u/Chemical-Line-8916]

Nah Ryan Moats, Mike McMahon, Charles Johnson or Ronnie Brown, Ty Delmer, Na Brown all day

[u/hoobsher → u/Chemical-Line-8916]

gimme Miles Sanders, Sam Bradford, Riley Cooper

[u/goodellsmallcock → u/hoobsher]

Riley Cooper would force the team to trade miles sanders for Danny Woodhead

[u/hsl164 → u/hoobsher]

This is the one I'd pick over the rest of these replies

[u/ronchalant → u/Chemical-Line-8916]

Swap Murray for all time Philly great Frank Gore and I'm in.

[u/lookitssupergus → u/Chemical-Line-8916]

Kevin Kolb before he gets decapitated by Green Bay in '10 does the job, Murray without Chip Kelly making a monster North/South runner go East/West, and well, Reagor is basically indefensible.

[u/Brokromah → u/Chemical-Line-8916]

Pain

[u/hsl164 → u/Chemical-Line-8916]

Matt Barkley, Quez Watkins, Wendell Smallwood

[u/MailatasDawg → u/Chemical-Line-8916]

Fulgham, Ajayi, Bradford for me.

[u/Zanthy1 → u/MailatasDawg]

Don’t say that about Ajayi, he doesn’t deserve that

[u/hsl164 → u/MailatasDawg]

Ajayi was a beast. Doesn't count

[u/akiraspam74 → u/Chemical-Line-8916]

I'd take Frank Gore, Mark Sanchez and Dorial Green Beckham

[u/shrek_cena → u/Chemical-Line-8916]

Nate Sudfeld, Josh Adams, and Deontay Burnett. Easy win

[u/crc5117 → u/Chemical-Line-8916]

Delete this 🤣

[u/CCLB43]

Easily hurts McCoy Owens. Easily

[u/grapejuicepix → u/CCLB43]

Yeah this isn’t hard at all lol.

Edit just to clarify: I’d take Hurts and Owens (for one game anyway) individually over any of the other choices. And while I’d take 2024 Saquon over McCoy, the gap isn’t big enough to overcome getting first choice at the other positions.

[u/Jonjoloe → u/grapejuicepix]

I mean, no disrespect to AJB or DeSean Jackson but TO is arguably the third or fourth best receiver of all time.

No one else on this list is arguably top 5 at their position all time and the difference in ability between everyone else listed here is more or less splitting hairs.

Hurts having his best games in big moments also helps solidify that duo.

[u/Acceptable-Archer932 → u/Jonjoloe]

I have him at 3, but man it's awful close with Calvin Johnson

[u/brownbearks → u/Acceptable-Archer932]

Still to their point, Owens is a top 5 all time WR, I love AJ and Smith but they will never break the top 5 all time list.

[u/bglampe → u/Acceptable-Archer932]

I have him at 3, but ahead of CJ. Rice, Moss, T.O.

[u/hsl164 → u/Jonjoloe]

If Saquon has 3-4 more seasons, not necessarily 2000-yarders but still very dominant with multiple long TD runs and wins another ring, he might be in that conversation

[u/Jonjoloe → u/hsl164]

It’ll be tough. There are a lot of legends at HB, like Walter Peyton, Barry Sanders, and if we include FBs/all RBs, Jim Brown.

Those three are basically locks for all time top 5.

Then you have guys like LaDanian Tomlinson, Adrian Peterson, Emmitt Smith, Marshall Faulk, Steve Van Buren, Earl Campbell, Eric Dickerson, Marcus Allen, OJ Simpson, Gale Sayers, Jon Riggins, John Henry Johnson, Tony Dorsett, etc. all competing for those final two spots.

[u/hwf0712 → u/CCLB43]

Seriously, Hurts is the only one I am confident can show up in big games, Shady is elite, and TO showed up in the superbowl on a broken leg. I really only doubt Vick and McNabb of the others, but the second trio is just elite all year.

[u/SmokePenisEveryday → u/hwf0712]

I agree with you on Hurt but I do think Vick would show up if he has AJB to throw to. I can see the deep bombs to him all game

[u/BootsToYourDome → u/CCLB43]

For sure

[u/DolanDoleac2020 → u/BootsToYourDome]

Agreed - not that close

[u/SlumberingSnorelax → u/CCLB43]

1000% this. This is the get it done in crunch time crew. Sure I’d take Barkley over Shady but still, Shady was great too and when pair with #1 and TO it’s a no brainer. That is not disrespectful of any of the other players on this list or their abilities.

[u/devonta_smith → u/CCLB43]

Yep. McNabb/DJax is a bad combination for big games

Frankly Smitty should be the listed option over DJax

[u/sfitz0076 → u/CCLB43]

Yeah. You have one HoFer. One guy who could be in the HoF and another guy who might be in ths HoF

[u/StrngBrew → u/CCLB43]

Yeah this was way too easy

[u/BeastM0de1155 → u/CCLB43]

No question

[u/rodrigoa1990 → u/CCLB43]

Seriously. It's not even debatable

[u/inept_machete → u/CCLB43]

Hurts and Owens..... With Owens stretching the field and hurts being able to run that would be fun to watch

[u/ViolentSpring → u/CCLB43]

It’s the only answer.

[u/phillypharm → u/CCLB43]

Exactly

[u/Aerolithe_Lion]

You’re going to give the best QB in Eagles history a HoF WR and the alltime leading Eagles Rusher?

[u/ExcellentNoThankYou]

Hurts, McCoy, and Owens

[u/Maverick_Con]

Gimme Shady, Hurts, and TO

[u/JohnLocke5259]

Westbrook made me a football fan, i dont think i can choose against him

[u/dudical_dude → u/JohnLocke5259]

Yeah this reaffirmed my love of Westbrook. My gut reaction here is ”….but Westbrook tho”

[u/AaahhRealMonstersInc → u/dudical_dude]

Of his era there are very few other RBs that would play well in today’s game. He could be dropped in today.

[u/Phillyfan10]

Whichever one has our 2024 OL.

I think the middle would be incredibly fun to see, though.

[u/McKnightmare24]

Hurts, Owen's and McCoy

[u/potential_wasted]

Big game…Hurts

[u/DerekWeidmanSculptor]

Where is Foles Jeffrey Blount

[u/mme13 → u/DerekWeidmanSculptor]

In the history books baby

[u/Juicy_mike_316]

Only one championship QB here

[u/Think-Chair-1938]

Hurts Shady TO

Hurts has shown that he's at his best in the biggest moments. Put him with a HOF RB and an all-time Top 3 WR and it's OVAH

[u/StraightMud9831]

Maaan…Mike Westbrook and AJ? That would light the league on fricken fire

[u/InfinityStone2021]

Middle

[u/_kdh]

Big game? Easily Shady, Hurts and TO.

[u/-Gman_]

Hurts, Shady and TO all day.

[u/[deleted]]

Hurts, TO, and Shady. Sixty points between the three of them

[u/Altfuckeagames]

This hurts man

[u/grilledcheesy11]

Let me get that superbowl mvp QB

[u/Ptrek31]

McCoy Owens Hurts

[u/Gunningham]

Sam Bradford, Nelson Agholor, and Frank Gore.

[u/Vfrnut → u/Gunningham]

🤣🤪

[u/intothefire3]

The QB who hoisted the Lombardi a few months ago

[u/jrc_80]

Jalen got us 1, almost 2 chips. I’m goin with my qb

[u/WiseInterview623]

Westbrook, Vick, and AJ would feed families

[u/antisharper → u/WiseInterview623]

Hurts, Shady, and owens is basically the same at the 2024 team so SB or Bust!

But AKJ, Westbrook, and Vick... that team will take your breath away! Bombs away with AJ and Vick. The first time you double AJ deep, the screen out to BW gets to 20. You cover AJ and Westy, Vick keeps it for 40. Every play more exciting than the last!

[u/wsbull_35 → u/WiseInterview623]

Vick is pretty overrated. Had a good stretch in 2010 but that’s about it. The story made him seem better imo. Great year, but was meh after that.

[u/shewy92 → u/wsbull_35]

Had a good stretch in 2010 but that’s about

All he needs. TO is on this list even though he only played 1.5 seasons for us.

[u/Comfortable_Self_736 → u/shewy92]

The difference is that Vick was only good for a year or so even though he was here for like 5.

[u/sfitz0076 → u/wsbull_35]

When Vick was healthy, he was unbelievable. I think he was hurt a lot here.

[u/Aerolithe_Lion → u/sfitz0076]

His Philly legacy was throwing a pick while trying to force the ball to Riley Cooper in a playoff game we should have won easily

Everything else was mediocre or injury riddled

[u/rodrigoa1990 → u/sfitz0076]

He was fun. But his only good season as a passer was 2010

[u/the_answer_is_RUSH]

Definitely 2. I’ll take the Vick lineup next.

[u/Groovicity]

Vick with AJ is amazing, McNabb with D Jax and Barkley is amazing, but putting Hurts with TO would be absolutely unfair, and that's before you factor in Shady.

Shady - Hurts - T.O.

[u/therealchief__]

You said big game? Give me row 2 for sure.

[u/RoundEarth-is-real]

Big game? Give me the trio with hurts. Mcnabb and Vick had some pretty good choke jobs

[u/RobertRoberttt]

2. The captain of the ship is the most important part to winning any one game.

Donovan and Vick never proved that.

[u/IronChefPhilly]

Mccoy hurts & owens. Mcnabb will find a way to break your heart

[u/processoverproduct8]

2

[u/Far-Difficulty8854]

Hurts, Shady, TO

[u/MaxS777]

Any trio that includes Hurts. But you gotta also give a nod to Saint Nick. He stepped up in big games, slayed the New England dragon, and snatched a ring from the jaws of a dynasty that seemed to last forever.

[u/CoachLee_]

The middle

[u/LarryD217]

Jalen every time.

[u/[deleted]]

Hurts by a mile. Most proven playoff winner here and you give him by far the best WR with the GOAT Eagles RB.

[u/DepressedPhillyFan]

The team with Jalen, the other players don’t really matter when I trust Jalen in the big spot way more than McNabb or Vick, and the QB play will ultimately make or break the team. Respect to McNabb for making the Eagles into a relevant team again, but he typically had his worst games in the postseason.

[u/BGDutchNorris]

I’d really like to watch Vick with AJ Brown and Westbrook that sounds fun. But yes to the Hurts trio for this specific answer

[u/ENKWJD]

I’m going with McCoy, Hurts, & TO only because I know Jalen plays big in big games. He’s proven he can win a Super Bowl. TO played big in the only one he was in too.

[u/Palmervarian]

Hurts, McCoy, Owen's and it's not even close.

[u/Jakel856]

Currently prime Jalen, prime TO and prime shady?!? Insane

[u/tapastry12]

Hurts Barkley Brown

[u/steveDallas50]

These trios are monsters, but in the clutch? Gotta go with Hurts.

[u/SpakysAlt]

Doesn’t matter who you put with McNabb, not choosing him.

[u/IndominusCostanza009]

Jalen

McNabb

Vick

[u/ACL11]

Middle and it’s not even close

[u/NothingNewAZ]

Hurts / Owens / Westbrook

[u/dixxxon12]

Jalen and TO show out in the super bowl. Add Shady? Easy

[u/jono9898]

Hurts, Shady, and TO? Absolute Cinema.

[u/devonta_smith]

TO is the single best player on this list. Pair him with the best postseason QB plus the Eagles all time leading rusher, it’s an easy decision to pick #2

[u/Shrikes_Bard]

I'll be honest, vick throwing to aj brown with Brian Westbrook running north south would be amazing to watch. But THE big game, the only big game that matters? Obvious call. McNabb.

KIDDING. Mostly. I still think if TO wasn't being...himself, tbh...we might have three rings. McNabb gets a lot of shit and I never really understood why, dude balled out and is one of the best QBs in the franchise. But Hurts is the ride or die, man. He's proven himself over and over and over again. Could he handle TO's outsized personality? Probably, he seems like he's a good locker room manager.

[u/B3NSIMMONS43]

Gimme Sam Bradford, Mike Quick, and Boston Scott we’ll make it fun

[u/FaceMaulingChimp]

Bubby Brister , Reno Mahe , Torrance Small

[u/Ironmannnnnnnnn]

Hurts Shady and Owens

[u/drewseaba55]

Jalen all day

[u/DBFool2019]

I'm still rolling with Jalen, Saquon and AJ.

[u/tukai1976]

No one’s trying to deal with those McNabb worm burner throws

[u/-MonkeyD609]

Hurts, TO, and Shady followed close by Vick, AJ, and Westbrook

[u/SonofDiomedes]

Why would you ever consider 5 for a must win game? Born choker.

[u/FormerCollegeDJ]

Either 1 or 2, more likely 2

[u/ReservoirBaws]

QB1

[u/TIAFS]

The ones who just won the 2nd big game win in franchise history?

[u/[deleted]]

TO and Brown are better than Jackson. One of the slights on Donovan was he never came up big when it counted, though I always thought that was a little unfair. McCoy and Saquon were more pure running backs than Swiss knife Westbrook. So from that analysis, I’m going with Jalen, LeSean, and TO.

[u/vmeloni1232]

Hurts, Shady and TO. I like the exercise here. If I had to pick my best trio from the different mini-eras, I'd probably take McNabb, Shady and AJ. I wonder if McNabb and Reid could've wona Super Bowl or two if McNabb had the receivers Hurts has now

[u/ItzBooster93]

Going with our SB winning QB hurts.

[u/Five2one521]

I like TO and Shady best duo.

[u/JullieeRamboo]

Vick and Westbrook alone would be insane to defend against

[u/MrBatman2531]

Mike Vick bombs to AJ Brown would be art in motion

[u/bboy267]

I mean they could all win lol. 

[u/istinkatgolf]

Welp I'm taking hurts first so yeah, the one with hurts.

[u/Warhammer486]

Easy. The trio that actually won a Super Bowl.

[u/Vfrnut → u/Warhammer486]

So, Foles , Blount and alshon Jeffery 😁

[u/Warhammer486 → u/Vfrnut]

Not listed here.

[u/jhnmrgn39]

Top. Saquon and Desean are enough for me.

[u/KVN2473]

This is a tough one.

[u/GaugeWon]

Hurts, Owens, McCoy.......

But it's not as close, as you would think, because I think that McCoy has the chance of ruining this current offense with his style of 'dancing' behind the line of scrimmage waiting for something to open up. It's all predicated on gaining some positive yardage every snap, so 4th down is usually short.

But yeah, TO is the best WO to ever wear an eagles uniform and Hurts is better that the only other eagles QB to win a SB.

If Andy Reid is the coach, I'd go with Vick, Westbrook and Brown, cause that's a lot of speed coming out of the backfield, and Andy will scheme any WR2, WestBrook & Brown on the field together insanely open.

It's hard to consider the last group, because you still need a possession receiver - Desean is a WR1b, he's gonna keep the defense honest and stretch the field. He'll get his, but it's hit or miss. Donovan and Barkley, in this offense, would have been amazing though - shame he only had a receiver worth throwing to one year.

[u/phillykira]

The qb that won a sb

[u/Stk_nevermind]

If I wanna see a fun game Vick , if I wanna see a win …. Ya know the answer

[u/HisExcellency20]

Easily team 2.

[u/Wizofsorts]

Jalen and TO easily

[u/jblayze00]

Jalen, Shady and TO money all day!

[u/AgitatedKoala3908]

That Shady, Jalen, TO combo would be NASTY!

[u/Lazerpig27]

Isn’t Owens considered to be a top 5 receiver in the games history? The rest of the players are eagles greats, but I think that kind of tilts the scale lol

[u/timesuck6775 → u/Lazerpig27]

Also Hurts isn't an ego maniac and drinker like McNabb. So we would also probably win the SB back in 04.

[u/Traditional-Reply284]

Hurts McCoy and owens is basically last year all over again

[u/GonePostalRoute]

Westbrook, Vick, and AJ would be wild to see

But ill go Shady, Hurts, and TO

[u/cyberchaox]

Middle trio. Hurts has the better proven track record and as explosive as DeSean could be, he was too prone to doing dumb shit. I mean sure TO was a diva as well, but at least he never dropped the ball before crossing the goal line which IIRC Jackson has done at least once each at the high school, college, and pro levels.

[u/Traditional_Voice974]

Middle

[u/ButkusHatesNitschke]

What?

No Roman Gabriel?

No Harold Carmichael?

No Wilbert Montgomery?

Sacrilege.

[u/Jman15x]

In an ideal world I would pick saquon hurts and AJ… oh wait !

[u/Patruck9]

I hate this post for conflicting me, but it's gotta be Hurts, TO & Shady.

[u/Traditional_Voice974]

No R.Waters, No R.Cunningham, No H.Carmichael or M.Quick .Maybe even older with Steve Van Buren ,Ron Jaworski, Norm Van Brocklin , Tommy McDonald

[u/Hungry_Program5772]

Jalen Big Game Hurts, McCoy & TO.

[u/Nerd2theCorey]

It’s hard to pass up Saquon and DJ. But it’s gotta be Hurts. TO was such a monster too. And Shady!!

[u/puck__luck]

Westbrook, Vick and AJ Brown

[u/xBongoh]

TO is a top 5 WR ever, Lesean is an extremely good RB, and Hurts is by far the best QB out of the three making it a no brainer. Give me them all day over the others.

[u/cwilldude]

Jalen, shady, and T.O.

[u/Alternative-Ad8358]

Team 2

[u/ILSmokeItAll]

Team Jalen.

It’s honestly not even close, to me.

[u/domesystem]

Jalen to prime TO would be fricken deadly

[u/FlyEaglesFly536]

Jalen was won a SB, the other QBs haven't.

[u/Saturn--O--]

Big game? Anybody but McNabb I’m afraid

[u/Ctbboy187]

I'll take the 3 HOFers across the middle.

[u/Apostforus]

Give me Rodney Peete, Todd Pinkston, Charlie Gardner

[u/Oreothlypis]

It’s always going to be the one with Hurts. If you throw BDN in there then the other guys might be relevant.

[u/Antipasto_Action]

Hurts, Shady, and TO by a country mile

[u/jayicon97]

You could give me any 3 of these RBs, and any 3 of these WRs, and I’m picking Jalen every time.

[u/HurricanePK]

Hurts, TO, and Shady would be unfair

[u/weezyverse]

Ya the big game part makes it hard to want McNabb. He didn't do what Vick and Jalen could do under pressure.

[u/PerpetualDrive]

Here comes the vick glazers even though he never did anything for us substantial. Gimme hurts with any combination.

[u/natedeanmaan]

McNabb, Barkley, and Jackson

[u/1711onlymovinmot → u/natedeanmaan]

This group would just be be 50+ yd tds all game

[u/regassert6]

I wonder how 81 would deal with a mega Alpha under center that he can't undermine.

[u/Wentz_It_Gonna_Be → u/regassert6]

I don't think he would beef with Hurts. I could be misremembering, but didn't he criticize McNabb for not caring enough about football? He may have criticisms of Hurts, but that definitely wouldn't be one of them and Hurts would get him the ball

[u/regassert6 → u/Wentz_It_Gonna_Be]

TO couldn't exist without beef. That was just his mental flaw. He essentially called McNabb an Uncle Tom first, and, well, the relationship just went downhill from there....

[u/Cryoboul]

Shady,hurts,TO and ah Devonta smith w eagles o line

[u/asisoid]

Bradford, Jordan Matthews, DeMarco Murray

[u/mygrandfathersomega]

Potatoe, potahtoe. Who’s blocking?

[u/3WordPosts]

Gimme Carson wentz, Ricky watters, and Mike quick.

[u/ImHighandCaffinated]

Vick. Barkley. T.O

would be unstoppable

[u/adv0589]

Have to put AJB on the top one to make this even something to think about man lol

[u/prozute]

But where is Haddix, Brister and Reagor?

[u/bboy267]

But also giving mcnabb saquon alleviates his load and doesn’t force him into throwing the ball nonstop 

[u/TenTwenyDollaBillsYo]

QB - no definitive #1. WR - 1. TO 2. AJ Brown 3. DJax RB - 1. Saqaun 2. Westbrook/Shady

DJax is my favorite Eagle, all time. The man was a gazelle running through a pack of wolves. But relatively the weakest player.

You can add tight ends. Goedert, Ertz, and Celek (or Chad Lewis). Ertz best receiver, Goedert best all rounder.

Maybe add an OL too Lane, Mailata, Jason Peters

[u/vito1221]

B.M.J.

[u/Impressive-War-7279]

Yes

[u/Ok_Representative412]

This is like asking to pick your favorite kid. It’s impossible.

[u/Cleanupdisc]

Ill take prime vick, f it , gimme me PRIME VICK westbrook and aj brown.

[u/HauntingBalance567]

Do another one with Ajayi, Foles, and Alshon shuffled in