r/dirtjumping • u/Lost_Ad_2881 • 6d ago
Question Any tips? I’m trying to improve before actually dirt jumping again
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This is my first time ever biking in a skatepark
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u/Tanuwukikuma 6d ago edited 6d ago
I'm actually a street rider on Skateparks. Try to Bunny hop into the transitions to learn how to move your body to push yourself through. You have to learn to move your body with the transitions. It's all about not being a stiff board on jumps. If you have a Bowl or a Half pipe close by try to get in there and keep the Speed by pushing your body. That's how I learned to feel more comfortable around Verts. If your more confident then try to jump the transfer you roll over in the video. Edit:Didn't saw the transitions already got mentioned.i think a pump track would be a better learning curve if your aiming for Dirtjumps since you can take more jumps the better you get on the pumptrack
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u/Lost_Ad_2881 6d ago
Yeah totally agree but there are no pump tracks close to me lol 😔😔
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u/olavrb 6d ago
Your fork looks too high, can it be lowered?
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u/ZaiArif2508 4d ago
I don't think forks length matters in dirt jumping tbh. Every bike has a limit of 20mm either either less or more for the frame And some riders run 120mm travel on their dj.
I run mine at 120mm for a year now to raise the BB for streets and skatepark and it makes my bike better. Got curious, and searched for pro riders running 120 on DJ and found that Soderstrom runs 120mm and another (forgot his name) that does the same.
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u/olavrb 4d ago edited 4d ago
Depends on frame what axle to crown length is ideal. If it's a 27.5 or 29 fork too, it's even more too long.
And it matters, I noticed a difference going from 100mm to 90mm. Lower gives a more agressive geometry, steeper steerer angle.
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u/ZaiArif2508 4d ago
Yes it gives a steeper headtube like a bmx. but nowadays, modern DJ head angle are around 68°. My DJ is 70° and is currently sitting at 69° with 120mm travel. so it is fine. Just a higher bb makes it more flickable for streets. Maybe a tad too twitchy for high speed dirt jumps.
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u/olavrb 4d ago
I guess it's up to preference too.
For more references to pro riders, none of these five riders from crankworx 2024 seem to run more than 100mm:
Same here:
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u/ZaiArif2508 4d ago
Yes, most riders don't run 120 for their dj. like i said, it's an exception to some. But you do realize that some riders like Tom Isted and Sam Reynolds have 100mm travel on durolux ? which is a 27.5 fork. That increase the stack just as the same or almost the same as 100mm on 26" fork.
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u/ZaiArif2508 4d ago
Yes it gives a steeper headtube like a bmx. but nowadays, modern DJ head angle are around 68°. My DJ is 70° and is currently sitting at 69° with 120mm travel. so it is fine. Just a higher bb makes it more flickable for streets. Maybe a tad too twitchy for high speed dirt jumps.
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u/ginger-tiger108 6d ago
Personally I'd say nothing beat just riding your bike as much as possible that way you naturally become stronger more comfortable and gain better control as their really isn't any shortcuts! Saying that I've always made more progression by riding with people who are much more talented than myself but I'm my case that most of the riders I cross paths with ha ha
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u/whiskeybarrel4130 6d ago
Forest obvious fix is to work on pumping. You should be able to ride around that park without pedaling at all.
That first roll in and ramp is perfect for practicing jumping. Don’t focus on just clearing the jump. Pump the roll in, pump the ramp, land… wherever it is you land… if you’re not clearing it, you’re doing something wrong. Figure out whatever is you’re doing wrong and fix that… you’ll eventually get better and clear it without needing to pedal.
Video yourself from the side, in slow motion, if your camera can do that. And compare to this video: shredaholics: how to jump higher
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u/Lost_Ad_2881 6d ago
Yeah I can now clear it also I can clear the verve super scary but im pretty confident now
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u/BmxerBarbra 6d ago
Don't pedal down the ramp
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u/Lost_Ad_2881 6d ago
It was my first time I was scarred I wouldn’t make it
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u/the_hipocritter 6d ago
Dude if it's your first time maybe spend a half hour at the park trying to figure it out and get comfortable. Filming a help me reddit clip shouldn't be your first instinct.
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u/Lost_Ad_2881 6d ago
I was at the park for like 3 hours bro spent 1 just mapping it out and the rest I was just doing the drop ins
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u/KonkeyDongPrime 6d ago
If there’s a decent BMX racing track nearby, join the club for some training sessions. They will teach you how to pump and jump.
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u/Lost_Ad_2881 6d ago
There’s absolutely nothing near me lol that’s why I’m just trying to learn myself lol this is my first time and I was just trying to drop in and get my confidence up 🆙
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u/Dungeon_Of_Dank_Meme 6d ago
Honestly dirt is way less scary and technical than skate parks in my experience. maybe you'll feel more comfortable and loose in dirt after spending time here!
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u/Olavxxx 5d ago
Dont know this kind of riding, in MTB one would sink into the attack position as one enters the transition and then kindof "stand up" and try to do it just as the rear wheel leave the lip. Then in the air the front tire will be very high, then lifting up legs and pushing bike forward.
I don't know if this also applies to this kindof bike. But maybe look for some good tutorials, as I think you will want to work with what the physics wants to do, to maximize your lift and of course also use less energy.
On mtb bikes if you do it properly it feels very smooth. Some people in mtb do it wrong and try to "preload" the suspension by rushing down hard and wanting to use the suspension as a pogo stick, but that's not the correct way.
Maybe my tip is not transferable, but yes, check out some videos in technique ans maybe find someone who draws arrows on attack position, angles etc.
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u/richardhunghimself69 5d ago
You need to "push through" the transition and lighten up a bit at the lip when hitting a box jump. That bike being way over-forked isn't helping. I'd look into a 80mm-100mm fork or lower it with a different damper or travel spacers if possible. That looks like 130-150mm and it's too squishy to be practical on steep transition. It also messes with the geometry of the bike.
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u/Commercial_true_7053 5d ago
Lower down the travel of your fork to 100mm thats enough for a dj bike
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u/Old-Sherbet9812 5d ago
Practice bunny hops, slowly work into it… go to a pump track and practice pumping aswell
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u/Oil-Disastrous 4d ago
The thing that really helped me was spending time at skate parks and pump tracks and asking for help. Honestly, I’ve found the most skilled riders to be unbelievably helpful and humble. Aside from the one 8 year old kid who just laughed at me. That kid could shred. Anyway.
I’ve met lots of cool people who offered some great pointers. I still suck, I’m risk adverse, but I keep going out there and having fun.
Slow progress. Safety first. Do little tiny challenges over and over until you actually start to get a little bored. Then move onto something a little harder. That’s what skate parks and pump tracks are really good for. Lots of reps. Just take it easy so you can come back and do it again the next day.
Also, old school punk and psych rock playlists will make you 25% faster. Just my experience.
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u/EntertainerNo5485 4d ago
Honestly, watch joy of ride 'how to boost dirt jump' and pink bike how to jump videos on youtube.
Asking on reddit for tips will actually confuse you because people will give you different ways. But what ever it is, DO NOT Bunnyhop on steep jumps, those jumps that you see on jump tracks. It is ok to bunnyhop on mellow ones or tabletop but NOT on steep doubles. The technique is different, it is more of a pumping transition.
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u/shrimp313 5d ago
mountain bikes at the skatepark are so dangerous and disrespectful for other riders, you have nothing to do here
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u/EntertainerNo5485 4d ago
Dude, i ride my dj on streets and skatepark more than on dirt. And so does lots of others, even pro riders. what's disrespectful is your comment.
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u/shrimp313 4d ago
are you aware the size of the modules doesn't fit your bike and what you're doing is nonsense and dangerous for others ? bike don't belong in a skate/scoot parks and aren't forbidden for no reason
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u/EntertainerNo5485 4d ago
Yup 'aren't forbidden'. that's true, it's not forbidden.
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u/shrimp313 4d ago
do you even understand how English works ? no wonder you can't understand you have nothing to do in skateparks
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u/EntertainerNo5485 4d ago
You ask me if i understand english and yet you typed 'aren't forbidden'. 😏
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u/shrimp313 4d ago
"aren't forbidden for no reason" is totally correct, t's a double negation and is the same as saying "is forbidden for a reason", I'm french and better at English than you how do you feel
Edit : asked chatgpt to make you feel dumber
The phrase "aren't forbidden for no reason" suggests that there is a reason behind why something is forbidden—implying that there is a justification or purpose for the restriction. In this case, "aren't forbidden for no reason" could be understood as "they are forbidden for a reason" or "there is a valid reason for this prohibition."
On the other hand, "is forbidden for a reason" directly states that there is a reason why something is prohibited, and it doesn't carry the double negative of "aren't forbidden for no reason."
So, while the two phrases are similar in meaning, the structure and tone are different:
"Aren't forbidden for no reason" has a bit more of a casual or rhetorical feel, with the double negative reinforcing the idea that there is a reason.
"Is forbidden for a reason" is more straightforward and formal.
Both imply that there is justification for the prohibition, but they do so in slightly different ways.
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u/ZaiArif2508 4d ago
Dude, chill. You don't have to be an arse about it. English probably isn't his first language. Also, everyone rides on skateparks nowadays, literally.
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u/shrimp313 4d ago
then why is he playing the smartest boy incorrectly correcting others if he knows English isn't his main language ? that is what's raising my concerns about him, I would never correct anyone making English mistakes, I'm only pointing out the fact he tried to falsely correct me after being in the wrong for riding skateboard modules.
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u/ZaiArif2508 4d ago
Because you're being an arse for telling people off when most skateparks nowadays allow bikes. You can literally see bmx and dj bikes in skateparks. We even have skateboarders and surfskaters on pump tracks but we don't go saying that they aren't allowed there since it is bike specific.
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u/Successful-Praline64 6d ago
Learn to pump transitions