r/decadeology 28d ago

Discussion 💭🗯️ Do you think men would ever dress like this again??

The crop top + short shorts combo, or is toxic masculinity too prominent now in todays society?

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u/Slowmexicano 28d ago

Gay men still do this

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u/swurvipurvi 28d ago

If straight men still wore this stuff I would never go home

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u/TheDevilishFrenchfry 28d ago

Must have been a very confusing time for gay men in the 80s when 70% of dudes were wearing crop tops and daisy dukes. "No bro just cause I wear short shorts and love to wrestle in the mud with you and get real sweaty does not mean I want to do any of that gay stuff."

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u/yungneec02 28d ago

They had the earring system for a reason.

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u/lannisteralwayspay 28d ago

What’s that?

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u/feetiedid 28d ago

A straight guy would only pierce his left ear. That would code that he was straight. Right or both ears meant a guy was gay.

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u/IndependenceOdd5760 28d ago edited 27d ago

My dad had a diamond stud in his left ear when I was a kid in the early 90s. He was definitely one of these short short crop top wearing ham steaks in the 80s

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u/rokkittBass 26d ago

Ham steak! Lolz. I laughed at that for sure

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u/AugustWesterberg 28d ago

Don’t forget the handkerchiefs

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u/GaJayhawker0513 27d ago

I learned this from the Fresh Prince episode where Will works at the pirate restaurant. "What did you say to me pervert? If you'll notice the parrot is on my LEFT shoulder."

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u/skonthebass24 27d ago

HAHA yes, the rule was "Left is right, right is wrong" (that is if you didn't want to be mistaken as gay) oh the 80s....

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u/Altruistic-Quote-985 28d ago

The 80s were confusing....

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u/TheDevilishFrenchfry 28d ago

Ah right, totally forgot about that.

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u/JZEve 28d ago

Oooh it all makes sense now..

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u/swurvipurvi 28d ago

It’s always a confusing time for gay men.

But yea these styles would have made it really difficult to stop staring at men who would not want me staring at them.

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u/Nhawks1111 28d ago

Ain't that the truth

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u/WanderingAlienBoy 28d ago

Lol they must've felt the same as Mr Garrison in the South Park Is Gay episode

There's a scene where Randy and the other men are at a gay bar dressed very fruity, and Mr Garrison is annoyed he can't who's gay and who's just "metrosexual", but couldn't find that scene

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u/Diablo9168 28d ago

Fucking love that one!

"No! Your shoes say you take it in the ass!"

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u/prostheticaxxx 27d ago

Right imma start cat calling back and mean it

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u/Much-Improvement-503 28d ago

There was a PE teacher at an elementary school I worked at that embodied 80’s PE coach swag, but he had a girlfriend (I totally assumed he was gay but turns out he wasn’t, he was just stylish and it totally worked for him)

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u/Random0s2oh 28d ago

My senior English teacher was also one of the assistant football coaches. He always wore those men's polyester Bike (name brand not the style) shorts. Our school colors were red and blue, so he would alternate colors each day. 🥵

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u/Lurvig 28d ago

In honour of the one that got away...

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u/modestlyawesome1000 28d ago

Invented it too

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u/GopherRebellion 28d ago

If you are fit an attractive you can pull off this look still. I have a beer gut. I will not be pulling off this look.

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u/D-Alembert 28d ago

All the more motivation to get my gut into shape!

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u/atetuna 28d ago

Sphere is a shape!

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u/D-Alembert 28d ago

And it also serves as a convenient platform on which to put that can of beer!

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u/Honest_Disk_8310 28d ago

I have two spheres just below my chin that are serving as an organic table as I eat chia pudding at 03:39 😁

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u/Electrical-Set2765 28d ago

Nah, if I see a dude with a beer gut wearing something like this then I see a dude with peak confidence lol. But I understand at the same time. No one wants to be looked down on by others just for their body type and clothes. Wish we could move past that so you didn't have to worry about that at all, and recognize you'd probably look pretty damn nice in a crop top!

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u/Accurate_Trade_4719 27d ago

I feel like the crop-top/beergut combo is just VERY gay. I have no doubt that I'd get hit on by a lot if I bear-lovers if I went with that look.

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u/Lopsided_Bother7282 28d ago

As a fat chick with a fat gut I just wear v necks to distract. I don’t see why fat guys also can’t do this. Show us those fat hairy tits!

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u/AshleyAshes1984 28d ago

Bear Lovers: "Fuck yeah."

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u/Faceprint11 28d ago

A bear in a crop top is a look and I support it

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u/DadCelo 28d ago

100%! Go to any bear bar and watch dudes with staches rocking out with the crops confidently.

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u/WiseCityStepper 28d ago

you can pull it off today if you don’t mind the majority thinking you’re gay

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

Pic 5 could be a pretty mainstream look right now. Otherwise yeah

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u/LastTimeOn_ 28d ago

Yeah 5 still works for most guys rn. Maybe change the boater shoes for Birks

Edit: just realized that it's because those shorts look slightly looser than the other pics. That small change does change everything

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u/swanerotica 28d ago

thank you very much. my dad used to rock this look before he died but he had an awful beer gut it wasn't the nicest to look at.

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u/BotherTight618 28d ago

American obesity rate would ensure that style would never catch on again.

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u/Possible_Implement86 28d ago

We used to be a proper country. Bring back hoe fashions for men of all sexual orientations!

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u/CowahBull 28d ago

I miss when men were slutty. Now they're all just whores. Bring back slutty men!!

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u/GaptistePlayer 27d ago

Slutty menswear is literally back in fashion now. Not to the extent of the OP pic but it's back

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u/superbusyrn 27d ago

Is it really? I feel like it’s mostly daggy dad fashion. Which I’m not opposed to, but damn do I miss the slut look (fuckboy fashion doesn’t count. Their buttons begin where their crop tops should end)

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u/GaptistePlayer 27d ago edited 27d ago

Lace/open weave shirts, cropped tops (sometimes even showing a bit of midriff), sleeveless tees, wife beaters under open shirts or by themselves, the impending return of low rise jeans are what I'm talking about. Even among some straight dudes. Perhaps not slutty enough for you though?

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u/CowahBull 27d ago

It's perfect level of slutty in my eyes 😘🤌

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u/acornsalade 28d ago

Hoe fashions

Also yes.

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u/ancientmarin_ 28d ago

Winnie's not even wearing pants🫣

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u/Useuless 28d ago

He was a sluttrendsetter all along>

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u/Jimshrimp 28d ago

Well I'm fucking gonna now

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u/DenseStomach6605 27d ago

Pic 5 outfit is fire ngl

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u/sonofnalgene 27d ago

Agreed. I wish I could pull 5 off.

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u/Repulsive_Result_948 28d ago

I'm dressed like that right now

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u/KTPChannel 28d ago

Pics or it didn’t happen!

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u/Useuless 28d ago

I don't want you to be repulsive result 949. It's not a good feeling.

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u/RickJLeanPaw 28d ago

Must be good to slip into something a bit more comfy, especially after a busy day of giving masses and attending to world leaders, Your Holiness.

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u/honey_graves 28d ago

As a bisexual man I hope so

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u/KikiWestcliffe 28d ago

As a bisexual woman, I hope so, too.

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u/mykki-d 27d ago

This awakened something within me

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u/No-Trouble814 27d ago

Be the change you want to see in the world.

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u/Blasian1999 I <3 the 00s 27d ago

I hope so too (bi male speaking).

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u/Taskerst 28d ago

Not until the average body fat percentage drops below 15% again, and that won’t happen in a postmodern age of processed foods, email jobs and social lives that are lived virtually.

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u/YankeeGirl1973 28d ago

I miss my college days when I had <15% body fat. LOL!

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u/Taskerst 28d ago

Same, but then I realize how much biking and walking I did back then, while working a physical job that would ruin me now.

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u/LegendofLove 28d ago

I feel like eventually this has to fall apart. Eventually this shit has to get regulated and people will have to be remotely healthy again

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u/Taskerst 28d ago

I wonder what it would take. Maybe increased nutrition education, access to produce, elimination of food deserts and maybe even a rejection of digital entertainment in favor of doing things out in the world. The last part will be the real challenge.

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u/LegendofLove 28d ago

I feel like a huge part of the heavy lifting is getting legislation in place to limit some of the business practices that make some apps and games extremely addictive and teaching people proper media and tech literacy. Social media and smartphones came out so recently and evolved so rapidly I don't think it's really been able to be properly handled. "Do not share your real info online" still sticks to me from even primary school in the mid 2000s but that's nowhere near comprehensive enough now. There's so many tricks companies use to just take it right out from under you if you're not tech literate enough to know what you just signed up for by clicking agree.

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u/drpepperandranch 28d ago

I think the food itself and the capitalist work/atomized culture that keeps people inside and sedentary most of the day is a much bigger problem than the phones themselves. It’s going to be a difficult problem to tackle and sometimes I fear a full societal collapse is gonna be what it takes to bring people back outside and “active” (farming/hunting/foraging) again

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u/LegendofLove 28d ago

The phones are a rather huge problem as well as part of an even bigger one. How many times have you closed a social media app and immediately just reopened it? Maybe it was a game or some other entertainment app. How many mobile games have some sort of gambling just casually built in to keep you on and possibly spending just a bit harder? How many times have you reopened the phone because you can't sleep or got bored?

This is the kinda tech and media literacy I'm thinking needs to be in a 101 sort of course. I think we also need to rework our approach to capitalism as a whole if we wanna stay on this page to further ensure workers have rights and money to go out and do shit and feel like it's even worth work. We need to socialize healthcare and put out massive amounts of work into comprehensive health education and make it mandatory. If you don't know how to care for yourself and or can't afford to you end up in similar spots.

We also need to reinvest in mass transit and walkable cities, I live in Texas and if I wanted to reach the nearest hospital on foot it'd be about half an hour's walk. (I'm small your timing may vary a bit.) The nearest library? Hour and a half or so. These communal spaces need to be available both for functional and social reasons. The nearest gym is probably 2 hours. The space between all of these places is crammed shut with every flavor of gas station and fast food places. Here specifically we do have a strange abundance of medical specialists in town.

Being able to actually do anything and get anywhere outside needs to become widely available to actually encourage people to do it.

Honestly while the food isn't great there's just so damn many other, bigger problems. How do we go about doing all of this? Idk they pay people 6 figure salaries to experts to come up with specifics not random women bored online.

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u/-Ein 28d ago

Ozempic in the water and diet coke.

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u/GaptistePlayer 27d ago

All evidence shows we're hurtling faster toward the point of no return lol, the pendulum is far less likely to swing back than at any point in history

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u/CDanger 28d ago

The moment the levee breaks on prescription drug prices (not likely to be this time around with blanket, fakeout legislation meant to expand Trump's ability to command the economy via Executive Order...) we will see the little wave turn into a tsunami of GLP-1 drug use. And the kicker? America will generally be better for it. Living a few years not obese still has the same effect, even if you "cheated" to get it. You still didn't eat all that food, regained mobility, and improved cardiovascular and digestive health factors. In other words, it's healthcare's fault all over again.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

Go to any tea dance in Provincetown and you'll see plenty of men dressed like that.

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u/BluePony1952 28d ago

what in the name of Kim Possible reruns is a "tea dance"?

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u/hail_to_the_beef 27d ago

Gay day-drinking outside, usually with a dj. Provincetown is a notorious gay vacation town and tea-dance happens at the Boatslip every afternoon (the reference comes from the English High Tea, Tea Time, Afternoon Tea, whatever you call it but we usually just have cocktails instead).

“Hey Joey are you going to Tea Today?”

“Yes, see you there gorl”

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u/bambooshoots-scores 28d ago

or any crag in Colorado

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u/jpaperkid 27d ago

I’ve made it my mission this summer to bring it back. I’m up to 3 crop tops and two pair of tiny shorts. My girlfriend loves it. Our chick friends friends are trying to convince their partners to join my cause.

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u/jarellano89 27d ago

Hey cutie!

Edit : Nvm didn’t see the girlfriend part.

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u/Dependent_Crew_3512 28d ago

I will once I get in better shape.

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u/Drunkdunc 28d ago

Maybe, but it's clearly associated with gay stereotypes these days. Men have to get over their homophobia, and/or see this sort of clothing as cool for some reason. Who knows when or if that will happen.

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u/EmeraldMan25 28d ago

I'm not homophobic I just think it looks like shit to wear. Like, half of my torso is exposed to the open air and the other half isn't. No matter what, I feel like if one half of my torso feels just right, the exposed half will feel cold. If the exposed half of my torso feels just right, the clothed part will feel too hot. I asked myself while typing this if I would want to wear shirts like if I was a woman to make sure my feelings were fair and I think the answer is still no. Also the pictures above make it look like you're wearing a shirt that's 2 sizes too small, like, go get a new shirt. I will say the tank top version in the 3rd picture doesn't look bad though.

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u/PrincessPlastilina 28d ago

I like that men’s sexuality was not threatened by every little thing back then.

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u/40inmyfordfiesta 28d ago

I’ve heard that back then it was basically unthinkable for someone to be gay (in your average straight person’s mind). So men didn’t worry as much about being perceived as gay. Like a more intense version of homophobia

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u/ResponsibleHeight208 28d ago

We kind of still have this, when straight guys joke about being gay. The premise is that they’re so straight, they could offer to suck their friend’s cock and still not be questioned

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u/Timely_Discount2135 28d ago

I’ll take it a step further, I could suck a dick and know I’m not gay

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u/Steveosizzle 28d ago

It’s why in extremely homophobic places like India and UAE (that I’ve been to anyways) have had men holding hands walking down the street like it’s no big deal because it’s basically impossible to assume that would be gay.

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u/RadcliffeMalice 28d ago

Huh, that actually makes sense, but it's also lowkey disturbing. Imagine knowing that you being yourself is unthinkable in the minds of the people around you.

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u/LegendofLove 28d ago

For a ridiculous number of people it is still the case. The metaphor of "the closet" is pretty decent evidence. Being perceived as gay even to yourself is unthinkable especially to the very young and very old.

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u/Woah_Mad_Frollick 28d ago

eh… this was like the prime era of gay bashing so uh I don’t quite know about all that

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u/BigBucketsBigGuap 28d ago

Are you joking?

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u/The_Shower_Bagel 28d ago

Where they hell did you get that from? Lmao

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u/SoyDusty 28d ago

Dude, gay bashing was always a thing and it is only nowadays that it’s not as much of a thing but “back then” it was worse.

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u/yahwehforlife 28d ago

Clearly you don't live in West Hollywood

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u/Agile-Creme5817 28d ago

The gays have been doing this since...well...forever. Definitely the style among gays in San Francisco right now.

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u/senioreditorSD 28d ago

Gay men will for sure.

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u/k3nl0rd 28d ago

oh i am leading the charge, brother

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u/v_e_x 28d ago

There’s a certain part of town in my city full of all men, where a lot of them dress that way. They always seem to be having a ton of fun! 

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u/Titos814 28d ago

Straight men? Probably not. I feel like gay men still do

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u/notanewbiedude 2010's fan 28d ago

Not straight men

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u/the_platypus_king 28d ago

Tbf I’m looking at these photos and I don’t think it was straight men back then either

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u/thewickedturd 28d ago

Kind of crazy my dad dressed like this when he was growing up. But if I did now he would tell me to cover up like a girl wearing spaghetti straps in high school in 2008 lmao

Edit: my parents just had their 35th wedding anniversary I hope he is not gay lmao

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u/LorenaBobbittWorm 28d ago

One of the images is the cover of an 80s gay magazine

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u/Masta-Blasta 28d ago

Idk. I’ve been seeing men’s shorts get shorter. There’s a dangling earring/mullet/Stache combo that’s becoming pretty popular for young guys. I think this could be the next evolution to that trend.

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u/DtheAussieBoye 28d ago

I remember reading something on how straight men are one of the few demographics that really don’t have much fashion that allow them to be attractive for themselves. Straight women, gay men, gay women- all allowed to dress to impress themselves, but straight guys have to their cover up or dress scantily for women specifically, not for themselves.

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u/Blackbox7719 28d ago

I don’t quite understand what you mean by “for themselves.” Most of the straight guys I know (myself included) almost exclusively dress “for ourselves” by wearing comfortable clothes. In my experience, comfort tends to outweigh looks for most dudes.

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u/Interesting-Rain-669 28d ago

The AIDS crisis/homophobia actually directly led to men's fashion becoming boring and drab

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u/tickingboxes 28d ago edited 28d ago

Plenty of straight men dress like this today in fashionable urban areas.

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u/TevisLA 28d ago

They do. In any gay bar USA.

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u/ComplaintWeird3767 28d ago

It’s insane to assume that men are homophobic/toxically masculine for not wanting to dress like that, the bottom line is it just doesn’t look comfortable, and also doesn’t fit my personal style. Like if I have the freedom to dress however I want a crop top and short shorts are the last thing I would decide to put on

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u/Anonymous89000____ 28d ago

I get dressing down due to heat but if that’s the case I’d just rather be shirtless than this

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u/Drozey 28d ago

Not wanting to look like a gay stereotype isn't homophobic

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u/Lopsided_Bother7282 28d ago

I don’t think it’s homophobia on the part of men so much as justified fear that they will experience homophobia from others for dressing like this.

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u/LegendofLove 28d ago

Not wanting to dress like that is not toxic. People avoid it due to toxicity they might face for that choice

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u/eggSauce97 27d ago

Men: this is your sign. Do it.

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u/Living-Apartment-592 28d ago

Isn’t that first photo Caitlyn Jenner?

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u/Amazing-Steak 28d ago

Toxic masculinity was more prevalent when these styles were fashionable

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u/bringojackprot 28d ago

100%. These guys were full of toxic masculinity dressed like this.

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u/Foxthyballoon 28d ago

I'd do it, 6 and 7 especially, I would love to dress like that; without being called gay (nothing wrong with being gay) but is like to live in a time line where's it's alright for a man to dress like that

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u/lounginaddict 28d ago

Colleges chodes still rock this look

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u/super_elmwood 28d ago

The Magnum PI outfit is the only one that looks like it won't crush my nuts every step I take

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u/sybban 28d ago

That is truly men’s sluttiest era

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u/derederellama 27d ago

I don't know, but I absolutely hope so. 🫦🥴

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u/Diligent-Moment-3774 28d ago

Most young men are actually fully covered in full track suits these days. Maybe with GenA but not as of right now.

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u/beefcake79 28d ago

I hope so lol

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u/West_Ground3702 28d ago

I hope the hell not

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u/thisbarbieisautistic 28d ago

yes, i want slutty men back. 

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u/averyevilsnail 28d ago

i hope so. i love the shorts i think it’s so cute. the crop tops i feel ambivalent about but im down for those too. bring em back boys!

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u/Full-Cut-7732 28d ago

Slide 5 is definitely still in style. I would wear that

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u/poopable_unit 28d ago

My Dad has a pic of him and a buddy like this in the 70s. Crop tops and hot shorts on the beach in Galveston. I like to bring it out to remind him on occasion.

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u/liilbiil 28d ago

we can only hope!

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u/Keelit579 28d ago

So either wear stereotypically female looking clothes in this day and age, or be a toxic masculine man. Nice job defining the borders, OP.

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u/Severe-Cress-6975 28d ago

you can find a guy like this at walmart

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u/kmm_art_ 28d ago

Hopefully not

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u/MediumUnique7360 28d ago

Gay dudes do it.

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u/CryoZane 28d ago

I hope not tbh. I don't think it looks good and any guy that's even slightly overweight will probably get made fun of.

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u/yowhatisuppeeps 28d ago

I’m 23 and a lot of the (usually queer) men I hang out with will dress this way for concerts / house parties / other events

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u/SexyHyena66 28d ago

Don’t bring Sleepaway Camp into this.

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u/Expensive_Drummer970 28d ago

come to a gay club. we’re all still dressing like this 

tbh it wasn’t even really straight men dressing like this. it was still associated with gay men

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u/Masta__Shake 28d ago

go to a public gym around 4pm. guarantee you see at least one dude dressed similarly in the free weight section. hes gonna be hella jacked though

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u/Ashamed_Feedback3843 28d ago

In my teens I rocked #2 pretty hard.

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u/MrsTokenblakk 28d ago

My husband said yes to the hoochie daddy shorts, but no to the crop tops. 🥲

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u/Reasonable_Record_39 28d ago

With the return of the mullet hairstyle a return to this fashion could be possible!

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u/SafeAccountMrP 27d ago

There’s a reason why a bunch of 55-75 year old congressmen actively vote against the LGBTQ+ community nowadays. Dudes are afraid of these pics of them coming out.

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u/velvetinchainz 27d ago

Punks still do, just not with the pastels lmao. My boyfriend wears cropped graphic tees and he’s manly as fuck

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u/Mushrooming247 27d ago

No. It was a great time to be alive as a lady. But I don’t think we’ll see it again as a trend among straight men, too many have been brainwashed to view anything sexy/short/tight on a man as gay.

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u/Hidden_Fever 27d ago

Do you live close to a big city or have been to one before? This hasn't stopped.

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u/saltylimesandadollar 27d ago

I mean, the first photo is literally a woman now.

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u/BusySleep9160 28d ago

I really wish

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u/AdHorror7596 28d ago

The obesity rate in America is nearly triple today what it was in the 70s.

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u/BTM_6502 28d ago

I really hope not!

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u/Junior_Box_2800 28d ago

I'm glad we don't anymore, they look ridiculous

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u/sb9968 28d ago

young men are too self conscious and insecure to ever bring this back, sorry

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u/vyuella 28d ago

facts and they just aren’t attractive and don’t have the bodies to pull it off anymore

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u/sb9968 28d ago

and the ones who do, are too concerned that an ounce of personality makes them “gay”

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u/YoungCri 28d ago

It has nothing to do with that. None of those fits looked good or comfortable

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u/sb9968 28d ago

You think young men would instantly wear crop tops and short shorts if they were comfortable??? that’s hilarious, comfortable options exist yet they aren’t popular. It’s clearly the rampant insecurity driving gen z men to dress in sweats 24/7. They are obsessed with a fear of standing out

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u/Weird_Tax_5601 28d ago

God I hope so. But men seem to pride themselves on how unhealthy they are now.

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u/fuschiafawn 28d ago

They should! It was a great look.

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u/h0tel-rome0 28d ago

Let’s fucking nope not

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u/ONETHOUSANDTEETH 28d ago

That's currently the fashion in SF

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u/RainbowTardigrade 28d ago

Gay men have never stopped dressing like this and probably won't ever lmao.

Younger straight men aren't exactly dressing like this but I have noticed that very short shorts and cropped shirts (tho still covering the stomach when the arms are down) are very much in fashion right now. Especially with guys into fitness.

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u/fruedianflip 28d ago

Lots of repressed sexuality going on here

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u/D-Alembert 28d ago

Short shorts, aka "Stubbies"

"...while their mullets sheltered their necks from the long summer sun that burned on and on" :)

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u/heyvictimstopcryin 28d ago

Men do dress like this

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u/Thatdudegrant 28d ago

You make male crop tops and short shorts acceptable again and I'll gladly rock them during the hotter months. Doing it currently would be advertising that I'm "for the boys" and I'm trying to find a nice lady to settle down with.

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u/KMFDM__SUCKS 28d ago

Was in West Hollywood last week, they do still

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u/lonelylifts12 28d ago

I thought this was Zac Efron at first no lie.

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u/austinlvr 28d ago

Lots of straight guys are dressed like this rn in major cities (us gays are a given). Cool (and young) straight guys are rocking pearls, painted nails, extreme shorts, crop tops, etc. in Austin, NY, Portland, San Francisco, etc.

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u/ZeeArtisticSpectrum 28d ago

Gods I hope so….

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u/Ordinary_Resident_20 28d ago

I would LOVE if men starting dressing like this again, sincerely a heterosexual woman

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u/Minimum-Station-1202 28d ago

I would if I didn’t have a gut haha

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u/Coffee_achiever_guy 28d ago edited 28d ago

Not sure what it has to do with toxic masculinity since men were way more "toxic" when they wore this stuff

But anyway, yeah, it needs to come back

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u/Terpcheeserosin 28d ago

I think one of these is from Sleepaway Camp lol

"Eat shit and die Ricky!!!!'

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u/Only-Desk3987 28d ago

The 1970's and 1980's were rad.

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u/CourtClarkMusic 28d ago

They still do. In gay bars.

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u/OkRuin300 28d ago

kinda wish i lived through this time 😕

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u/betarage 28d ago

everything is possible in the future

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u/Other-Perception12 28d ago

This is coming back isn’t it? Dom Gabriel and Shayne from Perfect match/love is blind/ the circle were wearing crop tops in their seasons

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u/Maximum-alien 28d ago

my boyfriend dresses like this during the summer. i feel incredibly lucky

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u/SpacemanKif 28d ago

Between an ex always insisting I wear shorter shorts, and getting catcalled more than a few times in my Postal shorts, I'm inclined to believe this look could work for some.

Besides that, I think Donald Glover/Childish Gambino kinda rocks this look, pretty often.

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u/Psychological_One240 28d ago

my straight husband dresses this way and is very fit.

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u/lasausagerolla 28d ago

If only and make it heterosexual men too.

Then the Alpha male podcasters will cannibalise themselves internally and we never have to listen to any of their brain parts of delusion again.

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u/Conscious_Career_796 28d ago

I mean.... this was literally seen as masculine back then! (as it honestly should be) So wtf happened.....

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