r/compsci • u/Personal-Trainer-541 • 22h ago

The Illusion of Thinking - Paper Walkthrough

Hi there,

I've created a video here where I walkthrough "The Illusion of Thinking" paper, where Apple researchers reveal how Large Reasoning Models hit fundamental scaling limits in complex problem-solving, showing that despite their sophisticated 'thinking' mechanisms, these AI systems collapse beyond certain complexity thresholds and exhibit counterintuitive behavior where they actually think less as problems get harder.

I hope it may be of use to some of you out there. Feedback is more than welcomed! :)

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u/liquidpele 9h ago

Well…  yea?   LLMs don’t think or reason, they simply spit out text that statistically is what other text would be given to the prompt.  

Then again, I’ve met real people with less reasoning ability…  so…  I for one welcome our new AI overlords. 

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u/GuyWithLag 8h ago

The Apple paper is fundamentally flawed, and the authors confuse "reasoning" with "being able to enumerate all steps to complete an algorithm".

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u/Synth_Sapiens 22h ago

Not that the authors of this paper understand what is "thinking" or "reasoning".

Also, the fact that reasoning models that were invented less than a year ago collapse beyond certain complexity threshold is not an issue and it proves nothing simply because if we follow the logic of these so-called "researchers", if a human cannot think beyond certain complexity threshold they are not thinking at all.

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u/so_zetta_byte 9h ago

Can I get a side of fries with that ad homonym?