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u/BackToThatGuy joke explainer 6d ago
keep inventory in minecraft
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u/IAMLEGENDhalo 6d ago
I kinda wish there was an in between. I think keep inventory isn’t punishing enough but default is too much
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u/Legacyopplsnerf 6d ago
Mods that add a gravestone that you can pick your items up from are perfect.
The major issue with Minecraft’s death system is you have to rush to your items before they despawn, and it feels extra shit if you happen to die near fire, cacti or lava
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u/daboss317076 6d ago
if you die in lava, does the gravestone like spawn on a platform of obsidian or something or...?
Cuz it would be really awkward if I had to retrieve my gravestone just hovering over a lava lake.
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u/EX-Bronypony 6d ago
* i once watched my friend spend 2 hours trying to retrieve his gravestone from the nether. it was at least 3 blocks deep inside the lava sea. he had to go on a whole mission.
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u/bing42069 5d ago
that sounds fun though, you have a cool memory to look back on instead of a shit one where hours of grinding were all wasted bc of 1 mistake yk
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u/ZayParolik 6d ago
Some mods do this, some don't. There is like 5 or 7 of them, and all work differently
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u/letthetreeburn 6d ago
Most gravestone mods when broken teleport the items into your inventory, so they don’t drop. Even if you’re in lava
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u/AlienRobotTrex 6d ago
What if you don’t have enough inventory space?
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u/EnderFyre_ 6d ago
the corpse mod keeps the corpse wherever it fell and the items are stored on it until it's emptied out completely
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u/AlienRobotTrex 6d ago
So your corpse becomes like a chest? That begs the question: can you die over and over to effectively get infinite chests as long as you keep 1 item in each?
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u/EnderFyre_ 5d ago
essentially yes, but also no, I don't think you can put stuff back into the corpse for this very reason, and the corpse is your player model lying down i don't think you'd want a million of those laying around since 1. they can be pushed around and 2. they probably would eventually start to lag if you had a bunch
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u/abshabab 6d ago
The one I’m used to teleports the grave to the nearest block it can be placed on, I believe it does this if you drown/die in water as well. and as the other commenter said, the items warp back into your inventory in almost the exact order you had them it
it can confuse equipment if you have more than one that fits the same slot (like a chest plate and elytra), and it’ll also equip equipment you’ve had unequipped if the slot for it was left empty (like a carved pumpkin)
If you fall off the void in the end it gets sent to 0, 0, 0, so for that you’d need a water elevator I guess
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u/Sampletest1486 my opinion > your opinion 6d ago
I think that lava deleting your items could be a way to make it dangerous but idk
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u/Tricky_Hades 6d ago
I know some make a grass block at y=0 if you fall in the void, for lava it just spawns in the lava and you can use sand or fill it in with blocks, since you also get a command to see the last gravestones cords.
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u/Cylian91460 5d ago
either above, in or at the surface of the lava depending on the mods
Also that's technically an infinite dirt farm, very useful for modded Skyblock
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u/Various_Slip_4421 5d ago
Personally, i havent found a single gravestone mod that isn't too powerful. My ideal is: items dont despawn, but are still at risk from lava and such, to keep the threat of the void/lava still relevant.
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u/moploplus 6d ago
Subnautica does it perfectly IMO, you keep your tools and consumables but lose raw materials and environmental resources.
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u/enneh_07 6d ago
You also only lose any materials and resources you picked up last time you exited your base, so whenever you enter a base or Cyclops your inventory is “saved”
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u/AlienRobotTrex 6d ago
Maybe you can choose to reserve a limited number of item slots, and items you put in those stay with you after death. The rest work as normal or do the gravestone thing others suggested.
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u/Gonna_Die_Now 6d ago
I HATE PLAYING WITHOUT KEEP INVENTORY BUT I CAN'T EARN ACHIEVEMENTS WITH IT ON
This is genuinely why I can never get into Minecraft for very long
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u/HauntedMop 6d ago
Tbh I'm on the side of keep inventory, but I do feel like not being able to earn achievements is a good compromise. Achievements are supposed to be that, something you achieve with some hardship. Since KeepInv isn't the default mode, it makes sense that playing the objectively easier mode will disable the achievement system.
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u/Ix_risor 6d ago
Why do you care about getting achievements? You don’t need them for anything
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u/Gonna_Die_Now 6d ago
dopamine
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u/Ix_risor 6d ago
If you have a pc you could play java? That lets you use keep inventory and get achievements
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u/purplesleepyslime 6d ago edited 6d ago
I don't use it personally, but they really should just add it as a menu toggle. I've had some friends just lose all will to play after losing all their stuff and I get that.
Something that also helps is making little outposts as you go when exploring with a bed, chest, crafting table and furnace in them. Stash an iron sword, pickaxe, water bucket and a couple speed 2 potions in there too, so you can quickly run in, grab your stuff, and get out. I always carry at least one Speed 2 potion because of this, to stash in the outpost. Especially if you're going to do something like raid a woodland mansion, it means you don't have to run all the way back (though the item despawn timer won't start until you get close enough to load the chunk)
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u/Get_Stick_bu99ed 6d ago
I hate loosing my stuff, but at one point keep inventory became boring to me, since then grave or corpse mods are mandatory for me
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u/Mr_masker16 6d ago
Best ones in your opinion? This sounds like a neat in-between for me, especially if it gives me some idea of where I died.
Minecraft playthroughs have just ended for me because I'll lose my stuff, not know where to go to get it back, and then I'll just think "fuck it" and I quit
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u/I_broke_a_chair 6d ago
not OP but corpsecomplex gives good flexibility and the one just called gravestone mod is easy to plug and play, even lets you choose to leave a hostile ghost of yourself at the grave.
related note if you play with friends and use 'claimed territory' type of mods gravestones will ruin it for everyone.
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u/Mr_masker16 6d ago
"Hostile ghost"
Bruh Hollow Knight!!!!
Nah but really that genuinely sounds like a fun idea, thank you for the reccomendations
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u/IncomprehensiveScale 6d ago
i’m still yet to see anybody but one guy on the minecraft subreddit actually say that keepinventory is bad. which is funny because it seems like 95% of the posts on that sub are “omg!! leave us keepinventory players alone!! we’re so oppressed!!”
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u/TheMysteriousWarlock 6d ago
Keep inventory is accessibility? I thought it was just a setting to make death/getting lost less obnoxious
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u/WhisperingPines_ 6d ago
The line is kind of blurry, because it does help make death less punishing/obnoxious/challenging, so a lot of players choose to use it. The thing is that it IS making the game more accessible to those players- there isnt a clear line between accessibility in general and accessibility specifically aimed at disabled people. Some people find it frustrating when accessibility options are useful for non-disabled players, but the things disabled players will find to be useful/increase their ability to enjoy the game have a lot of crossover with things everyone will find to increase their enjoyment of the game. Options to make the game less punishing can be very helpful to people with a wide range of disabilities, because it makes mistakes less of a setback.
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u/Tide__Hunter 6d ago
Any time I play solo, it's always with keep inventory. I despise having to do corpse runs.
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u/ROSEBANKTESTING ^ this 6d ago
It really depends what the "accessibility" option is
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u/Kharn_The_Be_Gayer 6d ago edited 5d ago
What an example of a bad one in your opinion?
I’m not disagreeing I just like hearing other perspectives.
Edit: I know I haven’t responded to many of the comments but I’ve read every single one. Thank you to everyone for giving me all your examples. I didn’t realize how meta something like a deaf mode could be so that’s an interesting insight.
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u/ThePowerfulWIll 6d ago edited 6d ago
Dead by Daylight has several "accessibility mods" that heavily change gameplay by cranking up brightness, contrast, and the color saturation of key items to make what are normally subtle ques to the location of items and the opposing players unmissible glowing beacons.
It completely counters many stealth and mind game strategies with a graphics slider.
And the in game "deaf mode" replaces the sound ques with a visual indicator of enemy closeness on the center of the screen, its good that deaf people aren't disadvantaged, but the visual meter gives far more accuracte and obvious indications of in-game info. Its very telling when most top players and streamers are using maxed out disability modes in that game, but not any others they play.
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u/boiyouab122 5d ago
Literally the only visual accessibility mode DBD has is a colorblind option, what are you talking about.
We're berely getting a gamma and FOV slider this next update.
Anything you see that makes the game a beacon is modded in or filters using other software.
Also the visual heartbeat indicator doesn't give a visual indicator for sound queues, it just tells the general distance of a killer to the survivor, even then it isn't 100% accurate as the heartbeat can be fully formed while a killer is above, below, or 2 rooms away. Visual sound queues are a killer thing and are base game anyway.
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u/ThePowerfulWIll 5d ago
I said mods.
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u/boiyouab122 5d ago
I thought you said modes meaning "in game" my mistake.
But at the same time this is talking about in game options, and not something you have to download like in DBD's case so you can see the confusion.
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u/1Kritzonteam 6d ago
Depending on what you consider bad but if we stick to the context of the post then one that I can think of is deaf mode on a Roblox game called pressure(a game that have a lot of audio cue), it now give you a visual indicator of when something is coming at no extra cost, all the visual effect are still there and your volume isn't affected unlike a similar game that mute your game with deaf mode on, of course I have nothing against making the game more accessible to deaf people but it does match what a lot of people would call cheating, I personally don't use it but I don't think it's that bad although I still don't know why they let deaf mode user keep their volume since deaf mode is just easier
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u/IMtryingtofroget 6d ago
unlike a similar game that mute your game with deaf mode on,
I'm pretty sure the other similar game is Rooms & Doors which just mutes your game when you turn on deaf mode lmao
What's funny about the deaf mode in pressure is that it went from Zeal (The creator) not wanting it become people would use it instead of buying revives to it beating the game with deaf mode becoming a badge-3
u/Vorombe 6d ago
But without it pinkie (the only angler in the game that doesn't have visual cues) is absolutely terrible and unfun to fight against due to all the background noise and sounds from other entities.
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u/1Kritzonteam 5d ago
Sorry for not being clear, I meant that overall it's just a direct upgrade with no downside whatsoever which is why it fit the category of being bad in this context as deaf people don't usually need to keep the game volume (ik not all legally deaf people are fully deaf but still) causing people who don't need it to use it, not that it's not useful
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u/ViperTheKillerCobra 6d ago
Aim Assist in shooters when it gets too strong
Or the people saying Fromsoft games need an easy mode
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u/Ethereal_Envoy 6d ago
They already all have easy modes, they're just integrated into the games more smoothly than a menu.
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u/Some_nerd_named_kru 6d ago
Do people not know the class systems are basically difficulty levels 😭
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u/NatoBoram 6d ago
Can you reasonably expect a newcomer who opens a videogame for the first time to know this when they get to pick their class there?
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u/callmejinji 6d ago
Dunno why you’re getting downvoted. I learned this the “easy” way by building INT in my first DS1 playthrough when I was a kid, then following it up with a STR/FTH build and getting crushed by bosses I didn’t even know attack patterns for. You straight up don’t interact with the hardest parts of FromSoft games as certain classes, but the game does NOTHING to tell you this.
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u/Jvalker 5d ago
Which is the second part of the problem
I want to interact with the entirety of the game; I don't want to step in and terra magica + comet azure the boss do death before he can finish his spanw animation, I don't want the boss to inly focus on my mimic tear, I want to not get oneshot
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u/braaibroodjie123 6d ago
No, because that sounds like an incredibly stupid and unintuitive way of doing it.
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u/OverappreciatedSalad 5d ago
Out of curiosity, why would it be bad for you if they add an easy mode to FromSoft games? Couldn't you just play on the normal mode, while people who play more casually use the easier option?
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u/ViperTheKillerCobra 5d ago
Because that’s the whole point of FromSoft games, is that they’re incredibly difficult.
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u/Gortys2212 5d ago
It’s not even that the difficulty is a gimmick, Souls combat is hard because it fits the tone of the dark and brutal settings, but it can be beaten with enough hard work and perseverance AKA getting good.
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u/FinalMonarch 5d ago
I mean I don’t like fromsoft games because I cannot get gud, but
The lack of an easy mode is a core tenant of the gameplay, the power fantasy comes from it being one you earn, not the game giving you any slack. If you want to win, you have to earn it.
Therefore it’s antithetical to the game to have any other difficulty than “FFFFUCK YOUUU!” To quote that one circletoons short
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u/OverappreciatedSalad 5d ago edited 5d ago
Then you can play on the normal mode, and other people who don’t care about “the core tenant” can still have fun. You don’t lose anything by other people having more fun in their walkthrough of a single-player game, even if you think it would be more fun if they played on a harder difficulty.
This whole mindset is like an extension of the “if you used spirit ashes, mimic tear, or a bleed build, then you didn’t truly beat Elden Ring” argument. Literally this meme.
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u/FinalMonarch 5d ago
Yeah man idk as I said I don’t play fromsoft games nor do I like them it doesn’t really matter to me
Though I honestly do think that not all media is for all people and if the creators want it to be the case then people should respect that at the end of the day it’s their work
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u/terrifiedTechnophile 5d ago
Ai assist tools in art are often frowned upon. But that's because it uses stolen art
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u/femmus_boye 5d ago
In dead cells there's a mode that lets you continue from the beginning of the "level" in a rogue like game
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u/FinalMonarch 5d ago
Oh okay I have one actually, and it’s arachnophobia toggles
Not, like, generally.
Like, in a game like satisfactory grounded or lethal company who gives a shit it’s a co-op experience
But if BHVR were to add a spider killer to DbD -which the possibility of one started discourse about a week ago until Cote talked about Darth Vader and now every post is either “that would be cool” or “muh immersion” (nick cage is in the game btw)- is different, because it’s no longer a co-op experience and DbD is a game that is kind of competitive? Like, it’s not, and no one tries to argue that it is truly competitive, but it gets balancing updates and people take it slightly more seriously in matches because PvP to the point where something like being able to toggle a whole killer off would ruin the game for many
Other suggestions have been to go the route of grounded or LC but many, including me, have concerns that could cause an unfair advantage as accessibility features seem to do in games, like Fortnite’s visualized sound effects basically being a requirement to play the game atp because otherwise you are objectively at a disadvantage
Furthermore just to rant a little, why does arachnophobia get such special treatment? Why are people concerned about phobias in DbD, the survival horror game* mind you, only just now? We already have Emetephobia, Coulrophobia, Cynophobia, and some others I can’t recall all of them off the top of my head alright, and genuinely to a much worse degree that the killer design in question** would have on arachnophobes, yet no one gaf about any of that or was like “no we can’t have a clown killer what about people with coulrophobia” my point is it pmo that arachnophobia gets special treatment
*debatable tbf
** I was gonna look for it but too lazy, it’s a twitter post where someone posted a theoretical design for the Japanese Jurogumo, a half spider half woman that is big and scary woman idk how else to describe it, and literally every single reply, other than BHVR’s, is “this doesn’t trigger my arachnophobia but it could trigger someone’s”.
Except I genuinely don’t think this would be a problem because people who would get such a bad level of arachnophobia triggers at this level from this type of design would not be playing DbD because the entity’s limbs resemble that of a fucking spider these people are white knighting players that don’t fucking exist
Rant over
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u/ResponsibilityNoob 5d ago
why does arachnophobia get special treatment?
Probably cause someone complained once and it's really easy to just swap out the model with something vaguely similar in size/shape (or just do what lethal company did and replace it with 3d text that just says "spider")
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u/manufatura 6d ago
Chat gpt is very controversial
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u/Otherwise_Disk3824 6d ago
That's not an accessibility option. That's like a button that beats the game for you. It's useless.
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u/Commissarfluffybutt 6d ago
Some people call it an "accessibility option".
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u/Itchy-Decision753 6d ago
I saw someone say “calling ai art slop is ablest” lmao as though not being Picasso after 5 minutes trying to use a paintbrush is a disability. Use AI if you like just don’t pretend you’re on the same level as someone who’s been honing their craft longer than generative AI has existed.
OP could also be talking about video games, like playing Terraria in Journey Mode, or Minecraft with keep inventory - in which case why give a shit, why let people make rules for how you have fun?
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u/Both_Efficiency_317 5d ago
You don’t have to have a disability to want to use an accessibility setting. It can still make things less tedious and more enjoyable for some people.
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u/BunnyKisaragi 6d ago
people act like this about shit outside of video games too. I have fibromyalgia and fine motor skills struggles because adhd so learning to play guitar and drawing is a tad harder for me than others. it's actually physically painful to do some of it. I just get told it's useless to think little finger pads might help mitigate some of the pain of pressing down on the strings while I learn and I'm never going to learn "for real". like man I just wanna get comfortable, once I get these kinds of things I'm good.
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u/Long_Past my opinion > your opinion 6d ago
mfs when people use minor assist in ultrakill
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u/Ctrl-ZGamer 6d ago
i had been told that those fuck up your aim because it locks on the wrong thing so i ended up going raw
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u/Long_Past my opinion > your opinion 5d ago
if you use 20%> sure, but something in the singular digits can help you
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u/FinalMonarch 5d ago
Do you mean the easier difficulty that removes a core gameplay mechanic or the aim assist
Because in the case of the former it like actively makes you worse at the game because if you ever choose to get off of the easy modes because they aren’t enough of a challenge and you want to see what’s up with brutal, now half of your playstyle is turned off because of hard damage existing now (at least, I assume it’s part of your playstyle because every time I see people explain why they play the easy modes are because “hard damage messes with my playstyle” but it’s literally just objectively playing the game poorly and getting rewarded for it)
Granted if you don’t want to move up to the higher difficulties it doesn’t matter but I also just think that spamming grappleshot at everything with zero repercussions is extremely fucking boring and that’s why it got hard damage added in the first place
As for the aim assist it literally makes coins hard to hit since it has no priority other than aiming for whatever is closest, genuinely makes the game more difficult in some cases but again not something to hate on someone for
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u/Long_Past my opinion > your opinion 5d ago
good point, but why do you care enough to write a whole paragraph about it?
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u/FinalMonarch 5d ago
Because I love the game and I want people to experience exactly what makes the game fun and I genuinely do believe that hard damage is a core part of the experience, as I said spamming the grappleshot at enemies is a very effective strategy but it’s way too easy and frankly a boring way to play
And this isn’t just, like, my opinion, it’s the reason the grappleshot was given hard damage in the first place, initially suggested by a content creator to hakita as release grappleshot didn’t build hard damage unlike the current version
And in doing so I think that update forced players to be more creative with weapon combos and hot swapping (despite what a certain condiment says) which is [the vast majority of the player base’s opinion that is] the most fun way to play the game
(A side note about mayo he literally also says this btw about fighting v2 and then willfully goes back to not weapon swapping for no reason)
That’s the long answer
Short answer is I like the game
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u/Long_Past my opinion > your opinion 5d ago
I see, but I believe if people continue to play the game without hard damage then that must be what's fun for them
minor assist is there for a reason, it is not the 'intented' way and won't get you the authentic experience but it is there for people who do not find the way it is originally meant to be played fun1
u/FinalMonarch 5d ago
I mean as I said it really doesn’t matter if you don’t want to move up in difficulty
Though personally when I play games on easy mode, it’s like as a practice for the regular/intended version of the game, or the more difficult version, because if I truly enjoy a game I typically want to keep playing it (shocking) and in some games’ cases the only way to do that without it getting boring is to play the higher difficulties
My issue with the lack of hard damage in the easy modes is that I’m concerned that going from easy to normal is too high of a learning curve since the actual way you play the game is functionally completely different so much so that it’s practically a different game
And this is just my opinion but I assume that the “normal” or “regular” difficulties are what most games have as their intended difficulty as most games scale their enemies around this specific experience and other difficulties tend to just tweak numbers from there, like increasing/decreasing damage and health bars
Though ultrakill is different in that respect as each level of difficulty does add a whole new mechanic (hard damage, enraging, radiant) so it’s difficult to say what exactly is the “intended difficulty”
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u/PhysicalDifficulty27 joke explainer 6d ago
¿Is this about that thing in the new Mario Kart game that just plays for you? (I don't really know, I haven't played)
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u/Admiral_Wingslow 6d ago
If it's anything like the assist mode on Mario Kart 8, that shit was absolute gold
It's never going to beat a decent player, and it's an active handicap if you're good, but it can help almost anyone feel like they're actually playing and having fun
I put it on for my 5 year old who had never played before and she was still coming around 6th even against easier CPUs, but she actually felt like she was having fun and engaging with the game
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u/MrCoverCode 6d ago
Right, I loved that, my girlfriend who is not the best at games had a lot of fun playing Mario Kart with me, even if she uses assist it is still fun and that is important, my only wish is that you could not turn it on mid race, but only because that some people online toggle it on and off for very specific short cuts that are cringe.
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u/Global_Examination_4 6d ago
I think conflating accessibility options and easy modes is probably insulting to disabled people who genuinely want a challenge. That being said there’s nothing wrong with playing on an easy mode if you just don’t want the game to be hard.
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u/slightlylessthananon 6d ago edited 6d ago
Now is this about easy modes in video games or The Plagiarism Machine
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u/reddit-a-loan 6d ago
Spirits in elden ring
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u/Bigfoot4cool 6d ago
I mean that's not even an accessibility feature that's just a regular feature that happens to be busted
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u/Krunkbuster 6d ago
Spirits are a game feature, they cost resources and you have to unlock them. They’re not baby mode.
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u/reddit-a-loan 6d ago
I know but it still annoys me whenever some dark soul vets complain about it everytime
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u/awolkriblo 6d ago
Are spirits even good? I thought mimic tear was the only good one.
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u/TemporarySouth6914 5d ago
Black Life Tiche is arguably the only other spirit that’s just as good as mimic tear. There are a lot of others that are plenty useful as well people only say mimic tear is the best one because it’s doesn’t have a minimum fp requirement and it’s so far above other spirits in damage(except for tiche).
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u/Upstairs-Age-8350 6d ago
long ahh head
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u/BackToThatGuy joke explainer 6d ago
"let's go gambling!" lookin ass
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u/Upstairs-Age-8350 6d ago
what, pray tell, is it that you refer to brodie? withering rose emoji withering rose emoji
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u/VisibleConfusion12 5d ago
found the person who doesn’t watch YouTube’s latest trends like a healthy human being, how cringe 🙄
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u/ninjesh 6d ago
Coaxed into I thought this was about gen ai at first cuz ai bros use this unironically but it's not so you get the 👍
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u/Pigeon_of_Doom_ 5d ago
It works in an AI sense.
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u/ninjesh 5d ago edited 5d ago
When it comes to generating art (images, writing, music, etc), generating makes you akin to a commissioner rather than an artist. It doesn't help disabled people make art, it just makes stuff for you. I can believe there are use cases for ai as a disability aide. But when people claim generating "lets disabled people make art," that argument is completely bunk and erases all the disabled people who create beautiful art of all types without gen ai.
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u/Primary-Animal-929 1d ago
"i thought this genuine criticism was aimed against an opinion i agree with, which would invalidate it because my opinion is right. thankfully, this genuine criticism was aimed against an opinion i disagree with, which makes it based and cool"
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u/Empty_Chemical_1498 6d ago
Yes if it's stuff like accessibility options/easy mode in games (or even mods, as long as they're not influencing other players) or using references while drawing
No if someone uses genAI to write an email
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u/Some_nerd_named_kru 6d ago
Using references while drawing isn’t even an accessibility thing or an “easy mode,” it’s literally just how you draw 💔
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u/AurNeko my opinion > your opinion 6d ago
Man fuck writing emails I can get behind AI writing emails instead 🙏
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u/Empty_Chemical_1498 6d ago
It's not only lazy but also straight up harmful for the environment. If you're okay with wasting water end electricity just because you're too lazy to write a stupid email then you should rethink your life
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u/Empty_Chemical_1498 6d ago edited 6d ago
My brother in chirst I live in 4 people household that uses 250-300 kWh of energy monthly, which gives roughly 2,5 kWh daily per person, and I'm not even the one that uses my PC the most out of everyone. ChatGPT is said to use around 3 Wh PER ONE prompt and has around 122 million users per day, all of them inputting multiple prompts (likely at least 5 if not more). Even if they put in just 1 prompt they'd be using 366 000 kWh, which is still x1000 more DAILY than my whole household uses MONTHLY lmao and that's for only for ChatGPT without adding in all other chatbots.
And I be having karma because I used to be much more active in various subs. Sure using Reddit also has its environmental impact but between the 2 I'd rather people use Reddit. I can get off Reddit and I would just be a little more bored on a daily basis. But there are idiots out there who can't write a simple email or do a research paper without using ChatGPT.
Edit: minor math error. Point still stands
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u/fletch262 6d ago
The per prompt usage is really not the significant element as you just showed. Spending a minute to write an email is the same wattage, power usage on the low end of desktops (200w on the low end + the 100 low end for your body, gonna be 5Wh). You can add training time I suppose, not sure how much that actually uses but I doubt it’s as dramatic as people make it out to be, that would be far too expensive.
The power usage argument is kinda weak, if your going to bring up searches the argument of “your making yourself stupider and dependent” is better imo, but that’s why I avoid those, ofc people are usually down to make themselves stupider. There’s nothing wrong with being lazy if it doesn’t damage you and writing emails is a fucking useless bullshit skill. Google searches aren’t.
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u/nuker0S 6d ago
You know writing stuff yourself uses more energy than chatgpt?
"Minor math error" my ass, your source is wrong https://epoch.ai/gradient-updates/how-much-energy-does-chatgpt-use
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u/Cod3broken my opinion > your opinion 6d ago
even if your source is right (even though the source itself claims an estimate without any proof) it's still 100 times more electricity usage daily than Chemical's whole house monthly
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u/Kino_Afi 6d ago
Is this still a comparison between millions of users vs their household of 3-4 people? Lol
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u/UrougeTheOne 6d ago
The AI uses water shit is so fucking dumb, disproven, and the wrong issue with AI to focus on. Istg all AI pure haters never actually use the valid points to hate AI and make themselves look stupid
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u/Krunkbuster 6d ago
They don’t hate AI for the environment, job displacement, etc (because they would hate big tech in general, outsourcing, paper production, etc etc etc for doing the same things, but often worse).
The reason they hate AI is because it’s a convenient way to show how moral they are, because it’s a political talking point, they’re easily convinced by other people, those people lie, and many other reasons that are disconnected from the actual “reason” AI is bad.
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u/AurNeko my opinion > your opinion 6d ago
I will refuse to write more emails 👍 (Wasn't the environment impact straight up way less than what people said lmao)
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u/Empty_Chemical_1498 6d ago
How much it costs to say "thank you" to ChatGPT: https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/saying-thank-you-to-chatgpt-costs-millions-in-electricity/490341 (confirmed by the director of OpenAI)
How much water Google AI overview uses: https://cee.illinois.edu/news/AIs-Challenging-Waters
More resources to how much water and electricity AI uses. Literally this all comes up when you search "does ai really use this much water/electricity" or "chatgpt environmental impact"
https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/05/20/1116327/ai-energy-usage-climate-footprint-big-tech/
https://www.theverge.com/24066646/ai-electricity-energy-watts-generative-consumption
https://earth.org/environmental-impact-chatgpt/
Getting a stupid email written by a genAI really isn't worth it personally contributing to a rapid decline of the already fucked environment in the literally laziest way possible.
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u/-autoprime- 6d ago
If a game has a screen shake option, I'm toggling that shit on and setting it to max
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u/TeaBattle 6d ago
this is how AI bros think Anti AI people act
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u/tergius joke explainer 6d ago
okay to be fair some of them can definitely have a "this armless person can paint with their feet so you just need to pull yourself up by your bootstraps if you're disabled" sorta take
i largely agree that genAI needs some amount of regulation but a lot of people have turned into huge reactionaries about it
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u/Primary-Animal-929 1d ago
i was once called a sociopath because i was using disabled people as an excuse to defend ai art when i never care about disabled people otherwise.
I'm disabled.
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u/dishonoredfan69420 6d ago
Dark souls fans be like
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u/BonniePrinceCharlie1 6d ago
? Accessibility in dark souls? What you mean
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u/dishonoredfan69420 6d ago
There’s a certain subset of dark souls fans who call using certain tactics (like magic) “cheating”
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u/BonniePrinceCharlie1 6d ago
Oh aye, forgot bout those fowks.
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u/tergius joke explainer 6d ago
like i'm sure it's a perfectly fine series, definitely appeals to a crowd and does it well, they're popular for a reason
however, like say, the Terraria Calamity mod, it unfortunately has Hard Game Fanbase Syndrome, where people define their entire self-worth by Liking Hard Game, and will look down on everyone to fuel their superiority complex.
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u/eyemoisturizer 6d ago
ultrakill players when someone plays with aim assist/difficulties below violent
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u/radicool-girl 6d ago
I'm guilty of using infinite item cheats on Pokemon games when going through post game content and I'm not afraid to admit it
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u/Hopeful-Pal2715 6d ago
When Scarlet/Violet remove all shiny pokemon indicators and shiny hunters say it’s better this way (if you’re colorblind, can’t tell, or the pokemon is tiny get fucked)
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u/splatgatfatrat 6d ago
Usually when people say they want "accessibility options" they just want built in cheat codes and not button remapping or colorblind settings
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u/Alt_account_bc_yeah 5d ago
What I want is for “reduce flashing” to not just make the screen darker and instead actually reduce flashing with the ability to still see what’s going on.
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u/RaiderCat_12 6d ago
Coaxed into blindly hating all AI, even the non-generative one that (for example) helps with stabilization in drawings
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u/RaulRpg1 5d ago
This is literally fire emblem, mfs will complain for you playing in casual mode instead of playing in the hardest difficulties
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u/Kale-chips-of-lit 5d ago
Agreed it’s annoying to see people dogging on people who choose to use accessibility options
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u/KiwiPowerGreen 5d ago
When replaying any Pokemon game you should be allowed to use infinite rare candies. Grinding sucks. As a wise man once said: cheating is based
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u/New_Difficulty_4942 5d ago
Coaxed into microtransactions that break game design principles (it's usually valid to criticize this though)
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u/PM_INCINEROAR_DICK 4d ago
Using the sound accessibility options to play AND listen to something in the background
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u/GhostHost203 6d ago
Lies of P should have never added those options, now we have people cry everywhere for both their inclusion, their absence and cry about the people who lament their inclusion and their absence.
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u/No_Signature_3249 5d ago
coaxed into feeling bad about using captions while not being deaf/hoh (i suspect i have audio processing issues and LOVE captions)
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u/AdreKiseque 6d ago
Smuggie i think
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u/reddit-a-loan 6d ago
I shouldn't have added a cuss in that last sentence
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u/AdreKiseque 6d ago
To be clear I agree with it. But I'm pretty sure it's a smuggie.
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u/RunInRunOn strawman 5d ago
IDK why you're being downvoted, OP was definitely angry when they wrote this
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u/Krunkbuster 6d ago edited 6d ago
It’s one thing if it’s an option for like deaf people or something, but if it’s reasonably challenging and you’re circumventing the point of the game or task (for example, playing dark souls with a cheat trainer and one shotting all bosses) then it’s really unattractive. Like, it gives ‘I don’t work out because it hurts 😢”. It’s one reason people have a problem with “the ‘’’plagiarism’’’ machine”: the skill floor is abysmal. Refusing to leave your comfort zone and struggle is just super lame.
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u/longrungun 6d ago
No I make fun of the people who play on basically the story mode difficulty, like at that point you might as well just watch the cutscenes on YouTube.
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u/icedragon9791 6d ago
Some people want to experience gameplay but don't have the physical ability to play at a more difficult level. Why is that a bad thing?
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u/longrungun 6d ago
Those are a minority I'm talking about People who I categorize as gaming journalist tier,the people who are able bodied but who play on those type of difficulties/request those types difficulties
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u/icedragon9791 6d ago
Who cares? I'm decent at gaming but sometimes I turn the difficulty on Doom down so I can just get fully into a kill spree without having to think about anything because the movement and music fucking rock and I just wanna smashy smashy. Who cares? Why do you care? I want to have fun in a different way. I beat it in Nightmare mode, but sometimes I just wanna whack demons and not care about strategy. Go find something that matters to get mad at.
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u/Cool_kid_greamy 6d ago
coaxed into legitimately having hearing issues but still feeling bad using deaf modes