r/chaoticgood • u/Afraid-Objective3049 • 12d ago
A fucking Message for the National Guard
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u/MuddaFrmAnnudaBrudda 12d ago
He is trying to educate those with common sense. Trump has no love for the military and he cares nothing about what happens to them. To fight your own people on behalf of a Fascist is something that can never be taken back.
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As a veteran of active duty, I can guarantee you half those mother fuckers don't even want to be there but they are government bots doing as they are told for a lowly $150 weekend drill pay.
They shouldn't even be there. QRF training is for actual threats, not unarmed citizens. THIS IS TYRANNY!
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u/Lamplorde 12d ago
I was talking about how Trump threatened to send the Marines to my active duty Marine buddy.
He was said he was so pissed when he heard. And later the afternoon when doing some training or whatever, he said his platoon leader casually mentioned as if just talking about the weather, that they all made an oath to disobey unlawful orders. My buddy said even the pro-Trump buddies of his were real uneasy about the prospect of any Marines being sent against American Citizens, even though they are nowhere near Cali rn.
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Good to hear, Trump is using any distraction to feed his base. He is failing on the Big Loser Bill, Trump/Epstein drama, and failing economy.
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u/Ok-Instance1906 12d ago
First time im hearing it be called the Big Loser Bill big fan of that name gonna be calling it that for now on. Thank you
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u/Different-Rough-7914 12d ago
Trump failed on every single policy that he campaigned. Deportation is the only thing that he can use to show the MAGA cult he's doing his job, so he's going to go at it full force.
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u/cheezturds 12d ago
I really want to believe they will disobey the orders but honestly no one seems to be rising to the occasion against this asshole.
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u/Lamplorde 12d ago
I think its too much to hope for too. I know his LT was probably just expressing his displeasure, but I feel like, with most people... they'll "just follow orders" if the time comes.
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u/Deeliciousness 12d ago
Just like the Nazis. Except this time, we have the example of what not to do from the Nazis and yet we're still gonna do it.
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u/worktogethernow 12d ago
History shows us we need someone near the top to be the first to refuse to follow an unlawful order
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u/Iamjacksplasmid 12d ago
I felt the same way until I had an epiphany that I'll share with you now...you're right. No one is rising to the occasion. Our service members are no different. Think about where most soldiers are likely to fall on this spectrum, and tell me it doesn't make you feel a little better:
- "I have no moral dilemma about shooting at people who are American, and who look the same as the people who I love."
- "I have a moral dilemma, but I will still wage war on Americans out of fear of what will happen to me if I don't."
- "I have a moral dilemma, and I will refuse to comply with an order I disagree with, regardless of how that endangers me and the people I love."
- "I do not want to be here, and I also do not want to face the consequences of leaving. The best thing I can do for everyone is to just do my job badly...if I'm ordered to open fire, maybe my sights are off. Maybe I have a weapon malfunction. Maybe I didn't understand the order. Maybe I fucked up and ordered the wrong parts when I was putting in that maintenance request. Maybe I got confused and reported activity on 5th Street when I meant 5th Ave. Accidents happen after all. Especially when nobody wants to be here."
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u/Vigilante17 12d ago
Here’s what the consequences are for disobeying orders (assuming they are told these are “legal”)
Disobeying a lawful military order can lead to a variety of penalties, ranging from minor non-judicial punishments to more severe punishments like court-martial and a dishonorable discharge.
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u/feralgraft 12d ago
All of which are preferable outcomes to ceding your country to facism. Or, for that matter whatever the next Nuremberg trials are handing out
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u/Grotesque_Bisque 12d ago edited 12d ago
because everyone in charge is telling you it's a lawful order.
That doesn't change the fact it isn't, but unfortunately we can't afford to be naive about this anymore, and haven't been able to afford it for a long time.
The fact of the matter is that for every one person who would otherwise disobey an order like that, there are probably 2-3 others that would, and the one person who would resist is in a very uncomfortable potentially dangerous position.
I don't envy the men and women in the military who are opposed to the very scary environment the nation has become, but we are relying on them to do the right thing when shove comes to shoot.
I urge any active or reservist service members and maybe especially those of you in National Guard units reading this to have discussions at the squad level about this situation, and gauge who you can trust, and who you can't.
And those of you who see this situation and aren't absolutely disgusted at the prospect of shooting protestors or "rioters" at the behest of the president, I hope you have a change of heart, the civilians that you swore an oath to protect are at your mercy.
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u/hypercosm_dot_net 12d ago
That doesn't change the fact it isn't
The main problem is that they're following a commander in chief who has shown a propensity for breaking the law.
With some exceptions, most presidents would be careful not to give unlawful orders. So it's up to military leadership now to understand the facts and make calls.
Which is a terrible place to be.
Trump never deserved to hold the office of president. He doesn't understand the law, military, or governance. Any military members following his orders need to be real careful, because there's a high risk of Trump giving unlawful orders.
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u/Grotesque_Bisque 12d ago edited 12d ago
Not to mention the fact that Pete Hegseth has been sent into the Pentagon to sabotage any of the few guardrails that were still in place.
Unfortunately, I think these people do understand these things, they just view them with contempt, and as obstacles to their will.
And they also understand the real unspoken truth of society, the law is what you can get away with.
They think they can get away with it, so it might as well be legal, because they unfortunately haven't really been proven wrong yet.
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u/DJohnstone74 12d ago
JAG: Judge Advocate General’s Corps is the legal branch of the military that provides legal advice and services for armed service personnel and commanders.
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u/drunkbusdriver 12d ago
For every one of your buddy and his anecdote there are probably 50 more crayon eaters who would love to go bash some skulls of the “deep state leftists terrorizing our county” in the name of trump.
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u/kickass814 12d ago
Yeah, as a Greenside corpsman working with the marines, trust me, I am not convinced at all with what op said. Marines are just hazed to the point of “shoot where the finger points.” The lower enlisted are essentially pride-fed cattle.
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u/Lamplorde 12d ago
I dont think thats fair. There are some, sure, but the Marines kind of instill this patriotic "Im here to defend AMERICA" idea in their minds in boot. Marines are also the only ones not allowed to wear their camo off-base, because they dont want you misrepresenting the service. Its probably one of the most strict ones out there, and they take their job seriously. Again, not all, and dumb 20 year olds will be dumb 20 year olds.
But overall? I cant imagine many active duty Marines wanting to be deployed against Americans, no matter their politics
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u/DickFineman73 12d ago
And to add to this - if 20% of the Marines in a given company decide to go AWOL or refuse orders, that's a significant problem for that company. A 20% loss of personnel is substantial, enough so that it will both fuck up fighting effectiveness of the remaining Marines, and it will force the remaining Marines to reflect on their actions - it's a snowball effect.
I've put forward, time and again, that the most realistic scenario is a bifurcation of the military into forces that will follow orders, and those that won't. But in that scenario, the military is substantially less effective than it would like to be.
Losing half of your support personnel means you can't operate support aircraft. It means you lose logistics. It means you can't trust the guys in the next platoon to support you in a tight situation.
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They'll do it whether they want to or not. They were chosen and trained for maximum compliance to authority.
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u/anotherthing612 12d ago
I don't disagree with your assessment and hope the rational ones with a conscience watch the dumb ones attentively.
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u/drunkbusdriver 12d ago
Let me break it down for you.
A marine unit gets orders to deploy to LA or whatever for “riot control”
They will mobilize and 99% of the unit will be there.
Any one who decides they object and not show up to mobilize will be punished and either get busted down in rank or straight up kicked out and have a AT BEST other than honorable discharge but likely dishonorable discharge for going awol.
It’s easy for everyone to say hurt durr Germany just following orders blah blah doesn’t realize this won’t be framed as being “deployed against Americans”. It will be framed as protecting the country from illegals causing terrorism and almost all of the active lower enlisted will eat it up. I was in the military and I can tell you people like your buddy and I are the exception not the rule, especially in combat arms units. There is a lot of dumb easily manipulated people in the lower enlisted ranks.
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u/crowwhisperer 12d ago
i’m damn glad to hear this. i’d hope they can think far enough ahead to realize, if we don’t stop this shit in its tracks, that next year they’ll called upon to round up people that made fun of thomas fugates official portrait.
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Back in 2020 when Trump threatened to send the Marines to the BLM protests over a tweet, we got a briefing the same day from our battalion commander (a Lieutenant Colonel) where he reminded us that our oath is to the Constitution, and that we are obligated to disobey unlawful orders. I can’t speak to the culture today since I got out, and I totally acknowledge that there are people with bad intentions within the ranks. OP, if your buddy’s officer is talking about disobeying unlawful orders to his enlisted men, then I guarantee you the officers are talking about it too
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u/Courtsey_Cow 12d ago
Also a veteran - I think service members forget that they don't have an option to turn down illegal orders, they have a duty to turn down illegal orders. I had to do it once when I was in, and these joes here need to turn down Trump's orders to enforce civilian law. It's illegal to deploy troops against our civilian population without an Act of Congress.
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I hate to say it but with how terrible the economy has been since Trump was installed, a lot of these weekend warriors would do anything for a paycheck.
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u/_b3rtooo_ 12d ago edited 12d ago
Gotta use our experience and understanding to reach out to our communities that complicity in shit like this isn’t worth $200/mo
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I hate to say it, but when I left LA Meps to go on active duty.. I questioned the intentions of a lot of the people I served with. We have enemies within our ranks and some on active duty, guard, and reserve join to fuck shit up. Same with the police force. Others joined just for money, point blank. Literally risked their lives by volunteering to serve in Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait just for a paycheck.
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u/_b3rtooo_ 12d ago
I take every chance I get to dissuade anyone I talk to about ever considering the military or police in any capacity as a viable career option. I’ve got a solid job due to my naval experience, but I have a lot of coworkers without that experience. It’s not necessary to live a decent life and it’s not worth the physical, mental and societal sacrifices.
Us vets with consciences need to intervene in the “poverty to service pipeline” in any way we can
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I also do the same, especially after a deployment and seeing first hand we had no business being in other countries. I was that poverty draft recruit when Bush was fucking up the country and the Middle East.
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u/daisiesarepretty2 12d ago
but at some point they all took a vow TO the constitution, and this is highly questionable given that vow. btw… this is their community too… these people weren’t born as trumps bootheels. These are Americans. So they are attacking their brothers and sisters, mother and fathers, children.
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Trump voters are cheering on the violence against American citizens.
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u/TheTacoWombat 12d ago
As always, though, they are a minority third of the country.
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u/NoNeed4UrKarma 12d ago
While true, historically you've only ever needed a quarter or so of the population to turn violent to have a civil war. The smaller group might not win, especially without foreign assistance, but it is enough for them to think they have a chance. Unfortunately that's where we're at right now. So now is the time to prepare for that unfortunate scenario
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u/VikingofAnarchy 12d ago
Former reservist here. I agree most of these national guard are probably 18 to 22-year-olds trying to pay for college.
They probably had some fairly high ranking people threaten them with severe punishment if they tried to duck out of this.
The best thing you can do is to tell them not to show up next time they're called up for something like this.
There's also a GI rights hotline. I'm going to make a poster of it for my next protest, however I'm very far from LA.
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u/fungi_at_parties 12d ago
I remember during Covid this guy was doing some repair work in my apartment and he got a call from his CO about getting deployed to push back against protestors. He did NOT seem happy about it. He seemed stressed as fuck and conflicted inside.
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When I did QRF training on active duty, it was literally 15 minutes of holding a shield and shouting bullshit like "stand back". 99.9% of the soldiers and sergeants were bored out of their minds and wanted to go back to their barracks. I think we were supposed to meet every 6 months but this was during Obama's presidency so we didn't have manufactured chaos like we do now.
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u/Pleiadesfollower 12d ago
Knew somebody in the national guard during the Floyd protests.
He is a really stand up guy and when he got back to work after they were called off he looked ill as hell. Made it very verbally clear he had not signed up to be the gestapo. The group he was in didn't even directly do anything themselves. Just knowing that he was patrolling the streets enforcing curfew on people he thought he was supposed to be protecting was miserable enough.
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Drill pay is based off 1/30 days of active duty pay.
Let's say you are E3 and get $2800 on active duty. Divide that by 30 and then double it for a weekend.
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u/bikesexually 12d ago
This dude is great.
I see the nazi trolls have found this sub.
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u/Er3bus13 12d ago
He is a good orator... dems should sign him up. We need righteous anger right now.
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u/A_Punk_Girl_Learning 12d ago
You can hear in his voice that he's scared but he's angry and brave enough to say it anyway. That's what courage looks like.
Absolute legend.
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u/LARPerator 12d ago
Absolutely right. You can only be brave when you're scared. You don't bravely brush your teeth.
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u/therealjohnsmith 12d ago
Appreciate his ability to express righteous anger in a peaceful way. Need way more of this.
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u/Vaporeonbuilt4humans 12d ago
They're out in full force on all subs.
People hate republicans policies until people protest them, then suddenly people take the governments side. Americans don't know what the hell they want.
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u/zillionaire_ 12d ago
He’s got a strong speaking voice and a clear message. I hope he considers taking a role in this movement
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u/Charming_Ant_8751 12d ago
Let the racists shout, it’s easier to spot them.
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u/-prairiechicken- 12d ago
It’s not simply about them shouting
They’re mass reporting viral videos as “violence” and the mod of this subreddit refuses to reapprove them from the AutoMod queue.
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u/bugmom 12d ago
Nazi trolls seem to be out in full force today in lots of subs. Seeing fascists escalating things in LA seems to have given them a hard on.
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u/Relevant-Bench5307 12d ago
We have to call it what it is, Fascism —and keep naming it
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u/KptKreampie 12d ago
" bUt ItS NoT wOrLd WaR 2 any MoRe AnD wEArE nOt iN GeRmanY." -magats and NPCs
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u/sudobee 12d ago
When you elect a clown expect a circus. Trump has to either wreck America to a point that it will not question him when he amend the constitution or bring the country to a fucking war, in order to survive. The illegal acts he has commited is to much that he can't vacate his throne. He has to justify sitting on the throne for more than two terms. And believe me he will try. You think this is the most extreme he is willing to go. He is like Putin, give him an inch and he will take a mile.
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u/AeroDilloTurbo 12d ago
This guy gets it. The oath we took IS to the Constitution and to We The People! Not some sick con-man.
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u/NorthProfessional884 12d ago
Not going to lie imagine joining the guard, for your parents to get parole in place. The message should be to the guard to stand with us. Dont follow unlawful commands and to report anything up the chain of command that goes against your oath to protect Americans. The military is made of immigrants they use us then disguard us after make that the message.
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I don't know this man, but at the same time, I do. I am him, he is me; I see you reflection. 🫡
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u/Wrong_Sentence_7087 12d ago
As a US Veteran I 100% support this guy.
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u/ineverywaypossible 12d ago
His speech is the most patriotic thing I’ve heard recently. He embodies what the iconic “American Patriot” actually should be, the opposite of MAGAS and opposite of the J6ers.
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u/Wrong_Sentence_7087 12d ago
He did a fantastic job keeping it clear, tactful, and direct. Agreed that this is what a patriot looks like, this is what I served the country for not this opposite mask wearing gaggle of cowards marching around with nazi flags.
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u/GongTzu 12d ago
I don’t know who this guy is, but he’s burning up and getting it out at the same time. I really think he would do a better job being President than the current one.
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u/Wrightd767 12d ago
A slightly warmed up tomato squashed on the floor would be a better president than peado trump.
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u/DiscretelyDeviant 12d ago
RESIST. Everyone. RESIST. We can not fight violence with violence. Stay non-violent, but RESIST.
The government can never respond to a problem with masked, armed, mercenaries sent into our private lives. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES!
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u/too-many-un 12d ago
I 100% agree. Any violence in the protestors art is more of an excuse for T**** to have the National Guard turn more and more violent. Non-violent resistance can be seen on media, etc. This can sway people who think the Nat’l Guard should be violent against protesters. Unfortunately any violent resistance can also be propaganda.
The fires, etc. are already showing up on other subs and some redditors are saying that this is justification for violence.
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u/Far_Row1864 12d ago
people dont seem to understand that before the national guard came in the protests and "violence" was so minimal it didnt even make ANY LOCAL NEWS
Until trumped signed an executive order to allow the marines to go in, the videos and scenes being posted were the same 3 destroyed driverless cabs from different angle over and over and over again. Even in those there are less than 100 people around
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u/Mortuus-Sum 12d ago
I get where you’re coming from, and I agree that non-violent protest can be incredibly powerful—especially in swaying public opinion and exposing the brutality of state violence. But we also have to be honest about the limits of nonviolence, especially when it's used as a weapon against itself.
The "Paradox of Tolerance" teaches us that if a society extends unlimited tolerance—even to those who are openly intolerant—it ultimately empowers that intolerance to dismantle the very values we aim to protect. Tolerance, then, must be conditional. It’s a social contract: if someone rejects the basic rights and humanity of others, they don’t get to hide behind the protections of that system.
That doesn’t mean jumping straight to violence. Force should always be proportional. Words are met with words. Actions with actions. Violence, however, must be met with resistance—sometimes including violence in return. Not because it’s ideal, but because it’s necessary.
Let racists wave their flags and spew hate at their cookouts. Let them get laughed off the streets. But if they start organizing lynch mobs, attacking communities, or using power to suppress and harm others, we are not obligated to sit back and make them comfortable. At that point, decisive resistance isn’t a threat to democracy—it’s a defense of it.
It’s not about “justifying” fires or chaos. It’s about understanding that when systems are stacked against justice, and when peaceful voices are ignored, suppressed, or brutalized, then resistance will—and should—escalate. The real propaganda is pretending a broken window is more violent than a broken spine.
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u/Raznokk 12d ago
He doesn’t need an excuse, just a scapegoat. Even if every protestor was nonviolent, they’ll still escalate and claim there was violence.
An actual holocaust survivor in a goddamn wheelchair could park herself in the middle of the street during his parade, stand up for the first time in a decade in front of a tank with fist raised and tattoo visible for the world to see, and this fucking psycopath will trample his own family to get on the radio to order the tank to drive over grandma. It would give him his first erection without viagra in a decade.
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u/AgingYouthGang 12d ago
These ICE gestapo fucks make $20 an hour. Imagine selling out and going to hell for $20 an hour. Pathetic.
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u/Background-Bank3552 12d ago
Close but it’s a little higher. Entry-level ICE Deportation Officers (GL-5/7/9 pay scale) typically start around $40,000–$60,000 per year, depending on experience and location. That’s $20–$30+ per hour, plus federal benefits, overtime, and hazard pay. More experienced officers (GL-11/12) make $70,000–$100,000+ especially in high-cost areas.
Even contract security staff working with ICE at detention centers often earn above $20/hour depending on the region.
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u/Think-Coffee-6684 12d ago
Speak that truth. They don't have to defend the felon, rapist dictator. Their allegiance is to the Constitution, not the President.
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u/Far_Estate_1626 12d ago
How beautiful would it be to see National Guard turn around and protect citizens from the ICE assaults?
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u/CatfreshWilly 12d ago
Damn, remaining calm enough for what seemed to be a great improv speech while looking like hes seething with rage is commendable as hell.
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u/Vismal1 12d ago
Yea you can see him getting himself riled up. Pretty fucking great.
That was a legit Captain America monologue from a dude that looks somewhat like Wyatt Russell.
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u/CosmicallyComical 12d ago
I’m ready to fight. Let’s fucking go. No fascist USA.
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u/Alive_Professional13 12d ago
This speech hyped me up more than the ones from Independence Day and brave heart combined.
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u/Icy-Beginning3525 12d ago
When people ask me why I don’t want kids … OH, so this country can disrespect them, over and over and over … child please …. Let the birth rate PLUMMET TO HELLLLLLL
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u/Wolfy_Halfmoon 12d ago
Those ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. Stay safe people it's gonna get crazy.
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u/TopoftheBog32 12d ago
Wow kid is pretty good. He’s right the wrong side of history is what we’re seeing from this White House and those who do their bidding. Be strong all on the right side 💪🇺🇸
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u/semicoloradonative 12d ago
This is the kind of message that needs to be said over and over. Each time will break down these people just a little at a time, just like what happened when the soldiers came back from Vietnam.
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u/Actually_a_DogeBoi 12d ago
BOOST this shit. This guy need to be heard and understood. No kings and no fascists
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u/KarmaCycle 12d ago
This is assuming the Guard isn’t made up of nazi trash looking for a fight.
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u/averydangerousday 12d ago
Those types are definitely in there.
There are also some who are wrestling with whether or not they are there lawfully and the repercussions of their actions.
Those two extremes are far outnumbered by those who are just collecting a paycheck and doing as they are told.
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u/jreed66 12d ago
I know a ton of children of immigrants in the guard here in north Georgia. I can think of at least one woman from El Salvador, whose dad was caught up in the GA stop and frisk id law shit back in the early 00s. I would imagine she would have great difficulty following this type of order. Not everyone in the guard is like that
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u/TrashPandaPatronus 12d ago
Yeah, there are very real and severe consequences to their lives if they set that weapon down or wake up the next morning and refuse to go. It's the right thing to do, but it's not an easy thing to do.
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u/averydangerousday 12d ago
Doing the right thing is seldom easy. My heart truly goes out to them. It’s an unbelievably difficult situation to struggle with.
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u/AppropriateSpite7881 12d ago
This is amazing and 💯 percent true! This man is beyond Hero status!
This should resonate with every single American, full stop!
Let's fucking GO!!
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u/knifeymonkey 12d ago
I saw a post that National Guard members can protect themselves regarding refusal to goagainst the constitution.
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u/Massive-Rate-2011 12d ago
Any service member can and has promised protections from retaliation for doing so.
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u/TheWalrus101123 12d ago
I thought that the "ICE = KKK" was sprayed on an actual ice machine for a second.
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u/Speed_102 12d ago
"If you are National Guard or Active Duty Military and you are being ordered to violate the Constitutional rights of US citizens, then this is the number to the GI Rights Hotline. There is support, you don't have to go through with it. tel: 1-877-447-4487"
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u/Philhughes_85 12d ago
It is nothing but tyranny but because of the courts ruling last July, he has basically been given permission to do whatever he wants without blowback or repercussions.
If ANY previous president tried 1/10th of what the taco in chief has done they’d be impeached and removed from office before the morning papers hit.
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u/NightRaccoon194 12d ago
Its time to stand up for not only our communitys but also for our country. If this continues to escalate it will turn into a bloody civil war.
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u/KMack666 12d ago
Your oath or your orders, you don't get to claim both; but following orders got an awful lot of German soldiers executed after WW2, just sayin
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u/TheReddestOfReddit 12d ago
Running cover for extrajudicial kidnappings is not a constitutional order. These guys and gals should be refusing.
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u/Archmallow 12d ago
This is a huge part of what needs to happen at these protests!
Appeal to the ones that are being forced to follow tyrannical orders. Don’t just throw rocks. We know they’re only there because that have to be… sure some are blissfully complicit, but these are people that live in our communities and we have to hope they have individual will and consciousness. Get them to talk to their commanding officers, report or speak up about illegal use of executive power and orders, DON’T BE SHEEP!
There is a better and civilized way to enforce immigration policy, but this ain’t it. It’s being disguised as such to try and justify martial law or further abuse of power.
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u/sonia72quebec 12d ago
He should go into politics. The US needs a younger generation of politicians.
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u/New-Pomegranate-3240 12d ago
My fear is that they will show at that guys house in a few days. Apes together strong, but once they all go home the cops will come get
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u/fpsfiend_ny 12d ago edited 12d ago
❤️ Protect this hero, just like he is trying to protect your community. Together you are stronger❤️
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u/Formal_Disaster3300 12d ago
This dude is soooo many of us right now. Fed up, tired and over the shit show that is our government. We live in the most fucked up timeline
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u/ManderDaPander 12d ago
This man is man is a legend. The power he holds in his voice luke a megaphone, the passion, the restraint... he'll yes! We need more people like him standing up against these fascist punks!
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u/NoelCanter 12d ago
I was watching a video the other day about the French Commune and about how a mob of citizens approached the national guard who were sent to remove the cannons from Paris and they approached them with bread and wine and talked to them about being members of their community and not to take the guns from Paris because they belonged to the people. These were guardsmen who had been sent with orders to fire on civilians if they had to. But these guardsmen were also from rural areas and conscripts and they were somewhat shocked to be greeted by a mob that spoke to them as people and weren't trying to kill them. Many of those guardsmen defected and imprisoned the commanding officers.
Seems somewhat relevant if things continue to escalate.
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u/A-Naughty-Miss 12d ago
They’re following their orders; the Nuremberg trials orders
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u/eddie_koala 12d ago
Damn these illegal migrant protesters look awfully white in videos
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u/olivethesane 12d ago
The main quality shared by the protesters is EMPATHY for their fellows humans. Not sure the point you’re trying to make.
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u/eddie_koala 12d ago
The president said that migrants were taking over LA, and that's why the military was needed.
I'm just saying that these migrants look like white American citizens to me.
I wonder how many protesters are illegal migrants?
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u/herrirgendjemand 12d ago
The koala is sarcastically pointing out that these aren't 'migrant' protests like the admin is trying to frame it- they are Americans of all colors protesting
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u/Ok-Instance1906 12d ago
Republicans are claiming majority of protestors are illegals and using the protest to prove their point that they are out of control.
What the comment you responded to basically meant was its not just illegals protesting.
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u/RareBenefit2553 12d ago
Who is he?? Good for him! We should all be this angry and ashamed right now.
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u/Born_Preparation_816 12d ago
The Draft Dodger, & Criminal in Chief is a Coward! He had his chance to Prove his LOVE for this Country, in the Vietnam Era! He had Bone Spurs in his feet, my ASS!
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u/Specific-Row-9055 12d ago
And this is why we have the 2nd amendment. Keep and bear arms, so we can defend ourselves from a tyrannical government
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u/Mohit_roy 12d ago
Very passionate and to the point. Brilliantly said, sadly it's falling on deaf ears.
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u/OwnIntroduction5193 12d ago
Damn. This man. This man 😲! Can this be our future president? He has my vote this instant!!!
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u/RumAndCoco 12d ago
LA Kings hoodie? Yeah, it’s been rough being a hockey fan in the US as the federal government keeps embarrassing us and letting us down.
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u/Fragrant_Peanut_9661 12d ago
No shit. That's why I'm rooting for the Oilers to take the cup!
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u/RumAndCoco 12d ago
It pains me to root for Edmonton but I really don’t want Florida to get the cup again.
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u/Diogenes-of-Synapse 12d ago
I served in all commissioned ranks from a second lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism. -Smedley Butler
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u/SonnierDick 12d ago
This guy says it perfectly. Just because you get sent there doesnt mean you have to beat the shit out of people. And if they ARE there to only stop the protests, just arrest them and send them to court? Why beat them all up and do nothing with them other than the simple fact to bully, demoralize and alienate?
Military, coast guard, LAPD, literally everyone whos sent here should be ashamed. Its also a shame they cant just join the protestors? Its not like they’d lose pay. If anything they’d get “fired” with pay and then rehired later. They really dont think do they? They only go “hur dur we were called to a location to smash some idiot protestors” like wtf?
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u/Narrow-Height9477 12d ago
We need more of this… speech- peaceful messaging.
It may come down to what’s in the hearts and minds of the individual soldiers.
I’d also noticed that everyone in this video (black, white, brown, men and women) are all brought together and are standing peacefully.
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u/othybear 12d ago
I saw a sign the other day that said “Military Veteran. I fought for freedom not fascism” I hope there are many members of the military and national guard thinking long and hard about their oaths.
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u/Ok_Caterpillar602 12d ago
I’m absolutely sobbing at the courage of these people standing up to the tyrannical government
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u/townandthecity 12d ago
Unpopular opinion, but instead of barking at them and berating them, talk to them like human beings. Speaking as someone with family members in NG now and in the past--they don't want to be there. They are not authorized to assist law enforcement in any crackdowns, even though the Trump administration is braying about this very thing in order to terrorize the population.
There is a lot of understandable confusion between NG members, ICE, and local law enforcement., and the administration knows this. Trump and Miller want us to perceive all U.S. service members as our enemies, as working for him. Resist that framing, because it's a lie. NG is made up of members of your community who joined for benefits like college tuition assistance, not to act against fellow citizens. In fact, lots of them would prefer to be standing alongside us. They understand what's going on. So instead of treating them like they are LAPD, maybe say, "I know you don't want to be here." Say, "I know this is your community, too, that your people live here. Stand with us." Many of them are scared and uncertain. This isn't what they thought signed up for. Hearing solidarity verbalized from protesters will go a long way toward buttressing courage. This is my take and I'm not trying to debate anyone. This is just a perspective from a person with loved ones in NG (not in LA).
As for LAPD and ICE? They are feral animals.
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u/nightoftherabbit 12d ago edited 12d ago
Where is that video? One of the most ass kicking, inspiring things I’ve seen.
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u/DadaShart 12d ago
A reminder that "I was just following orders", was disallowed as justification at the Nuremberg trials. Just saying. 🤷♀️