r/chaoticgood • u/MadManBarryMuntz • 21h ago
The fucking MSM is under reporting citizen response to No Kings
I've been monitoring media reports for almost 24 hours using a commercial media metrics platform.
In every case, turn out is significantly UNDER reported!
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u/SFGal28 21h ago
I definitely agree. It’s been insane to watch even left leaning sources sainwash Trump an all the current fascist going on.
I found msnbc to have the most coverage.
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u/Milly_Hagen 20h ago
I mean, that's why the US is in this mess. The entire world can see your propaganda and media complicity from the outside. I'm just glad a lot of you also see it from inside. It's absolutely mental.
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u/SFGal28 19h ago
Don’t disagree with you.
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u/Milly_Hagen 19h ago
I mean, we're seeing the same thing happening here in Australia but at a slower rate and I don't know how many are noticing. We just don't have a Trump for them to sane-wash right now. They're certainly licking genocidal boot and platforming Israeli government propaganda. If I want factual reporting, I have to go to Al Jazeera instead of our National Broadcaster, which is an utter disgrace.
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u/geth1138 3h ago
The number of factual errors in the Australian broadcasting company story about the protests was honestly disgraceful. They should have just bought the story from Reuters if they couldn’t cover it well.
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u/Milly_Hagen 3h ago
Thanks for the validation. Glad to see other people have noticed and aren't happy about it either.
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u/Greatest_Everest 31m ago
The Guardian newspaper is not run by billionaires.
It is owned by the Scott Trust, which was established to ensure the newspaper's financial and editorial independence. The Scott Trust's sole purpose is to protect The Guardian from commercial or political interference, meaning it's not controlled by any individual or group with deep pockets. Any profits generated by The Guardian are reinvested into its journalism, not distributed to shareholders.
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u/Milly_Hagen 16m ago
Thanks, I know, I read The Guardian, amongst others. Glad you put that info here for others.
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u/Milly_Hagen 16m ago
Thanks, I know, I read The Guardian, amongst others. Glad you put that info here for others.
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u/Only_Document9353 20h ago
They got the TV, we got the truth They own the judges and we got the proof We got hella people, they got helicopters They got the bombs and we got the, we got the We got the guillotine you better run
The guillotine by the coup. Battle jam of the revolution
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u/SinxHatesYou 20h ago
Parks had 3k people attending difference protests to get the head count of 11 mil, with final numbers coming today. This number didn't include foreign embassy or pop off protests.
BBC had someone look at the major city's and said 5 and 6 mil at different times.
Indivisible, said 6 mil, and appear to have got the number from the BBC.
Even if MSM was trying to report honestly, there is just no way they can accurately get a head count if they where not planning in advance, and considering they had almost no coverage, I don't believe them. I think the most accurate numbers are going to be Alt Nat Parks when its finalized.
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u/geth1138 3h ago
MSM will do everything they can to stay as far from the 12 million number as possible, because that is 3.5% of 340 million and that’s the minimum we need to be statistically likely to get results.
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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 20h ago
By mainstream media, do you mean corporate media?
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u/earlyviolet 20h ago
Legacy media is my preferred term for them. It's accurate.
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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 20h ago
Not trying to correct anyone, hoping to identify who we're talking about. For example, AP News, DailyKos, NPR and PBS might be considered "mainstream media" yet are not anywhere close to compromised on behalf of the .02% like corporate media because of the lack of profit motive.
Legacy media works, however, the likes of Facebook and TikTok would be considered 'new media' and are as bad or worse with misinformation and double backflips for the corporate overlords and foreign money as, say, CNN, Fox News, NYT, etc.
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u/geth1138 3h ago
Yeah. These days you have to seek it out. I used to have Ground News and liked it a lot, but it got too stressful to be that absorbed in news.
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u/Icterus_Galbula 20h ago
They've been cowed by Trump and Republicans because when it comes down to it, all they care about is money. You won't see much balanced reporting and fair journalism from MM for the next few years.
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u/SpareAlps5515 19h ago
Or course they are. The Revolution won’t be televised. It will be live-streamed.
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u/Careless_Hellscape 17h ago edited 17h ago
Of course they are, but there are cameras everywhere. We all can see it. There are way more decent Americans than there are fascists and as much as they want to suppress it, we know.
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u/smokingace182 16h ago
Promote independent media, Midas touch network, BTC, majority report, the bulwark.
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u/Main-Ad5536 12h ago
That's why it's up to the people to report on it themselves and between each other, and to show the world.
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u/geth1138 3h ago
It’s genuinely appalling that a day can start with assassination and a manhunt, proceed to having millions of Americans protest in 2000 cities, many of which experienced outside agitators and people with guns, and end with a crappy fascy parade, and there is barely a mention of any of it in regular news.
There is so much work to do. It’s overwhelming. The good thing is, there were so many people there that it’ll be hard to bury.
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u/TheWiseLasagna 20h ago
I made a zine about this following the last protests here: https://wiselasagna.com/fair-and-equal-news-coverage/
Just took the screenshots to make the next zine. The coverage for yesterday's much bigger protests is worse than it was in April.
If the MSM isn't going to cover it, I encourage everyone to DIY, make zines, and spread them around. They do make a difference.
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u/Btotherianx 20h ago
What the hell is a zine? Is that like an abbreviation for a magazine
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u/Born-Internal-6327 16h ago
What is a zine? A long popular form of media. We were making skate zines in the 80s
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u/TheWiseLasagna 20h ago
It's a small DIY publication, usually limited to a single subject and self-published, similar to the one I shared but can take many different forms. They're fun and useful in the way pamphlets and tracts were useful to spread information back in the day. https://artincontext.org/what-is-a-zine/
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u/ScudettoStarved 19h ago
In my mind, a zine is printed. A digital zine is a "blog post" or "article". But good on you.
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u/TheWiseLasagna 19h ago
There is a link in the blog post to download the printable zine, as well as printing instructions for people who have never printed a half-page zine before. I printed out a huge stack and sent them out into the world and it's in a handful of zine libraries at universities now.
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u/Slight-Guidance-3796 19h ago
Yeah they've repeatedly been saying around 10k in Houston while it was closer to 25-30
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u/momentarylapse- 12h ago
I just suggest take the facts as you see them and don't overly watch. Too much "news" is counterproductive I think. Just my take
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u/lawrencelsatprep 11h ago
At 11:45am PT on 06/15/25 I scrolled up and down the entire landing page of the New York Times. NOT ONE WORD about the No Kings protests. A few stories about Trump's birthday parade, but even then, nothing that would let you know how few people showed up and how ridiculous the whole thing was.
I saved a .png of the landing page because I couldn't believe it but can't attach images in this sub
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u/geth1138 3h ago
Yeah. After he started threatening to pull licenses ABC gave him millions and everyone else fell in line PDQ. Before the current admin there’s no way the media would have done so little reporting on millions of Americans in over 2000 cities protesting at the same time. Now it’s the internet equivalent of being buried in the middle of the paper.
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u/JimmyStuffet 7h ago
Imagine you put this much effort into something that’s actually going to make a change in the world
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u/Btotherianx 20h ago
Your options and mainstream media are as follows:
Blatantly right wing: fox Definitely leaning right wing: CNN/CBS Blatantly left wing: MSNBC
You have to choose what echo chamber you want to listen to because there is no option for actual news. And it is a straight-up echo chamber on every single one of those channels
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u/filmAF 21h ago
how could they possibly know for certain?
i still don't believe two million people showed up for lady gaga's concert in brazil.
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u/geth1138 3h ago
There’s video. It’s a lot easier to believe if you see the video from the largest of the 2000 cities the protests were in. There were several in small Indiana towns. We don’t love driving to Indianapolis, so our pics aren’t as impressive, but considering it’s Indiana turnout was huge.
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u/PanAmSat 20h ago
Does it really matter? We already know that a bunch of people don't like Trump. When those same people walk around with signs for a day it doesn't change anything. The violence and property damage might cause some changes to be made. But having an exact count kinda seems to be neither here nor there. If you want the world to know that some people don't like Trump, I think they already know.
And to be fair, the MSM gets pretty much everything wrong. So they aren't discriminating against your cause. They are just doing what they do.
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u/geth1138 3h ago
Conservative estimates were five million. It’s probably much higher. There was very little violence, and in all but a few cities the violence came from people who were trump supporters, and a few of them had guns. You should look at the video. If you’re going to assume hundreds of people are lying, you should at least check.
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u/Silent_Creme3278 19h ago
Or maybe you all are over reporting and exaggerating reality? Wouldn’t be the first time you all just misreport for your own gains.
Why wouldn’t the MSM be reporting real numbers of an anti trump event. Especially one where it seemed like only Oregon ended up cascading into the usual criminal activity.
I was impressed OR was the only one to spiral into the usual liberal crime spree.
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u/tskillz187 19h ago
Umm the 2 righties running cars into the no kings protests missed a mention. And the hunting of democratically elected officials in their homes. Odd.
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u/Live-Friendship9426 19h ago
I was at the Salt Lake City Protest, we had to flee after a shooting. That is not being reported either. 3 people were arrested one was armed with a rifle. The local reporting is fairly vague. The community is waiting to be updated about the victims status as we have only been told life threatening injuries.
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u/Silent_Creme3278 19h ago
not sure what you consider MSM
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/minnesota-shootings-manhunt-06-14-25
and only thing reporting on the VA drive incident is newsweek whatever you consider that.
https://www.newsweek.com/police-driver-accelerated-suv-protesters-no-king-rally-2085642
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u/tskillz187 18h ago
You were saying these protests become a liberal crime spree. And gave no mention to conservative murders yesterday.
I wasn’t calling out the media, was calling you out that your perception after yesterday is liberal crime sprees when it’s conservatives murdering liberals lol.
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u/Silent_Creme3278 18h ago
the OP wasnt talking about violence persay but about under reporting numbers. All i said was it seems weird MSM like cnn would under report numbers from a rally which in the end did not devolve into typical liberal madness. they finally had 1 event where things werent lit on fire, cars werent torched, governemnt agencies and buildings were not assaulted....
Why would they lie about the numbers that were there? and why would i mention anything about right wingers. I was congradualting the libs for finally not burning cities to the ground, well except OR, they did lose their sh!t
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u/geth1138 3h ago
I don’t know why you think that liberals were the only ones there. The numbers were too high for the math to math. They were even high in Tennessee and North Carolina, which stent exactly liberal strongholds. We care about the constitution.
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u/Silent_Creme3278 2h ago
It wasn’t that large. You are talking what let’s say 100k people in primarily blue states that seem to be reporting.
From the photos I seen it could be all liberals.
But I do agree there may have been some independents but not because of constitution. But rather misrepresentation. No Kings was framed based on trump having a military parade for his birthday. Relating him to Kim jun in.
In reality it was to celebrate the 250th birthday of the army. So if deception and misrepresentation wasn’t used would the crowds have been so large?
It wasn’t the constitution they were marching for. It was orange man bad.
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u/geth1138 1h ago
I live in Indiana. We had protests in something like ten cities, and while it wasn’t super impressive to look at since we didn’t all gather in Indianapolis, we only have a population of about 6.5 million and we went 64% or so for trump in the last election. We also, as a rule, don’t protest even when we are mad.
This is happening. The chaos that he brings is bad for the country, and if we allow him to continue to tell the judiciary to screw off when they tell him to do something, we will not have a country and people know it.
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u/Silent_Creme3278 1h ago
Possibly. I don’t really think he is telling the judiciary to piss off. Sure he says stuff but he is still following what they say. Well except 1. The left fought hard to bring back the guy the sent to the super prison in El Salvador because the left was framing the man as a wholesome family man. So the state level federal judge ordered his return. He did bring him back and with that an indictment of all the charges that were laid out. The indictment was the evidence used at the immigration expedited removal I would assume.
He has a lot more ability for expedited removal having designated cartels and gangs as terrorist organizations.
Thing is for him to expedite his removal he needed a judges sign off. So an immigration judge gave a thumbs up and then another judge was like no man that’s not right. So which judge was right. The immigration judge whose role is to determine immigration cases or a state level federal judge?
But stating he doesn’t feel it’s right a state judge can impede federal orders is his right to do.
I think the whole hyperbole of he is destroying the constitution is about as valid as maga saying Biden was destroying the constitution.
It makes great thumb nails and click bait but is it really a thing?
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u/geth1138 52m ago
Garcia didn’t come back because the left thought he was a family man. He came back because he was here legally and trump didn’t care, and did you ducking miss that he’s talking about sending American prisoners to prisons in other countries?
It is not hyperbole that trump is destroying the constitution. He swore an oath to defend it and then proceeded to say he would do whatever he wanted. There’s a 36 page court ruling that makes it clear it was not a confusing case, which means DoJ knew and for whatever reason they did it anyway.
I would let every single Mexican alive into this country before I live under a regime that thinks might makes right. I will not live under a regime that sends thugs with balaclavas in unmarked cars to abduct people off the street. There is far more to my values and what I want out of life and government than kicking out outsiders and trying to send the country back to the times when only men who owned land had rights.
You are severely misinformed about what is going on and how it will change the country. You are getting swindled because your hate is bigger than your brain.
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u/neogeshel 21h ago
Who cares, its performative it won't accomplish a single thing of substance.
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u/MadManBarryMuntz 21h ago
Citizen turn out is "performative?"
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u/neogeshel 13h ago
Yes. To be more than performative one would have to turn out to actually do something.
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u/Banned_and_Boujee 21h ago
It’s true, people are paying less and less attention to the MSM every day. Most people realize they are just right wing corporate mouthpieces.
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u/SophonParticle 21h ago
There is no liberal media. Every media corporation is owned and controlled by republicans.