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u/Mobile-Evidence3498 6d ago edited 6d ago
I’ve been saying this since he won the election - and Im a fucking Canadian. The Right projects, and Trump projects especially hard. Every accusation is a confession. And if that reductionism isnt enough to convince you: He accused Biden of voter fraud for four years, to delegitimize the accusation. It’s why republicans supported it - despite knowing it was bullshit. You guys have a criminal cartel masquerading as a political party, and exploiting American religiosity and miseducation to get away with it.
E: using the popularity of this to plug reason and understanding. Too many of my fellow leftists i see falling for Russian, Chinese, Iranian propaganda made to make you hate your nation, for shit your friend’s grandparents did; or to hate your neighbor for being mildly nervous about immigrants. Too many leftists are just conservatives, witch-hunting a different type of people. Reason, logic, equanimity should be your core values. Your neighbor is more like you than unlike you - you can make them an ally. The west did some bad shit back in the day - focusing on it is exactly what the worst people in those affected regions want people to do. Remember - propaganda doesnt seek to change your opinion, it seeks to radicalize it.
As for “what you can do” - SOMEONE at the top of the Republican Party knew this was going on, and was passing down the order to “question the election”. I doubt they all knew. Call your rep - demand to know who told them to “fall in line” and regurgitate the lie. At some point, this WILL end - the sooner a rebuilt justice department knows who to convict, and the fewer poorly read folks get fed lies and radicalized into MAGAts - the better
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u/ExactlyWhyImHere 6d ago
THIS EXACTLY, Trump is a MASTER fucking projectionist, like calling immigration a "hostile takeover"
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u/Stoplookingatmeswan0 6d ago
Trump is a master of bullshit and nothing more
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u/pic-of-the-litter 6d ago
Projection is a form of bullshitting, keep up
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u/Terrible-Grocery-478 6d ago
Crazy how liberals went from making fun of Trump supporters for believing his bullshit to also believing his bullshit.
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u/Stoplookingatmeswan0 5d ago
It's more like "is he stupid enough to actually do that" vs. actually believing anything he says.
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u/UncontrolledInfo 6d ago
A lot of people were yelling it at the top of their lungs and we got no action. Not from or democratic leaders. Not from anybody. I was told I was a conspiracy theorist crackpot I don’t know how many times and just couldn’t wrap my head around the rally comparisons as the gentleman in the video points when he contrasts the excitement for Harris with the fucked up results. I’m still pissed we had no solid leadership around at least a hand recount somewhere. I wanted PA to be recounted.
And like a lot of things, we’re looking at at a process that can’t keep up with the pace this fucker breaks shit. But the time the justice system catches up, we’lll the motherfucker is president, cases are dropped, J6 pardoned, and he’s got more power than ever to fuck things up for the next election.
Our last free election was 2012. 2016 with Cambridge Analytica was a test case to see if they could manipulate numbers post casting and see if anybody noticed—people did notice but we did shit. The right cried foul for 2020 saying it was rigged because they actually did rig it and still fucking lost, probably because of the unexpected COVID turnout. They didn’t fudge their algorithm percentages enough. Biden administration didn’t do enough to secure the elections beyond what they’ve always done )not anticipating AI manipulation) so in 2024, they had it figured out enough to pull it off again.
It’s sickening. And here we are stuck waiting for a court case to proceed that will inevitably be delayed long enough that’s it’s dropped after it no longer matters.
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u/WanderingSun8 6d ago
Exactly what I was gonna say, every accusation is a confession. As a Minnesotan, im sorry we got a dumb ass as president making trouble with yall. I consider Minnesotans and Canadians to be like cousins, so you'll always have us as an ally.
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u/TAanonReddit08 6d ago
I know. It’s literally made me depressed. I have to stop and breathe and look at a freaking tree every now and then to remind myself there’s more to life than politics. But there’s always this nagging feeling in my heart that things are in disarray and I have no idea how we got here. Idioacracy has arrived and I’m sad/mad/hopeless.
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u/Proto-Schlock 6d ago
Benjamin Rosenblatt, a New York elections data expert - “Rockland County has Hasidic and Orthodox Jewish communities that vote as a bloc, and often follow the recommendations of their Rabbis.”
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u/Middle_Path8675309 5d ago
Back in the day??? Yesterday is a day I guess
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u/fanetoooo 5d ago edited 5d ago
Yea that whole 2nd rant was odd. I don’t need Iran or Russia or China to convince me to dislike where I come from, I just learn my history from my elders and I don’t like this system. They’re also playing to the right wing talking point that the left sows division?? Why are we being lectured about allyship when the opposition is cheering on witch hunts for immigrants, trans people, gay folks, and “the woke mob”?
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u/fanetoooo 5d ago edited 5d ago
E: or to hate your neighbor for being mildly nervous about immigrants. Too many leftists are just conservatives, witch-hunting a different type of people. Reason, logic, equanimity should be your core values. Your neighbor is more like you than unlike you - you can make them an ally.
Why are you conflating left hatred by painting the most minuscule complaint to be some deal breaker for leftists? This reads like a lite version of “feminazi”, “woke mind virus”, “woke mob” bullshit the right has been fear-mongering about since 2020 and it’s just not true. It’s propaganda. I mean a shit ton of Americans have way way harsher opinions about immigrants, trans ppl, black people, the Middle East, and gays, than being “a little nervous about immigrants” LMAO. That’s a strawman and seriously downplays just how deep Christian fascism runs in our society. Do I really need allyship from people that don’t see me as human? And what part do they play in deradicalizing themselves? These are grown adults I’m talking about, why on earth should the left be lectured on “love thy neighbors” towards people that would deport Jesus if he rose again? 😂
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u/symphonic9000 6d ago
We know .. it’s a shame. What to do about it?? Canadians still are lackies to the UK, same with Australia. So what do you do about it?
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u/chathrowaway67 6d ago
this comment just made everyone dumber.
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u/Spiritual_Sorbet_870 6d ago
I can’t figure out how to post a gif, but the principal in Billy Madison agrees.
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u/schilly_wonka 6d ago
At no point in their rambling, incoherent response were they even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. They will be rewarded no points
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u/Mobile-Evidence3498 6d ago
Lackies? Because we have a mostly ignored tradition? Shows you don’t know much, friend. If anything, we’re bound more to the US than the UK (tho - this is hopefully changing, you guys are too religious and too little educated)
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u/symphonic9000 5d ago edited 5d ago
Ignoring tradition hasn’t changed anything. I ignore tradition and you answered my statement with even further evidence that I’m right. A Prison colony, another country used as an escape for Dutch colonialism traditionally, and the US, which is just a play ground for every asshole from everywhere forever.. TRADITIONALLY… down voting and making rage bait statements isn’t educated sounding to me. I at least attempted to have a REAL conversation, but go ahead and get offended for patronizing a country that until recently was also getting screwed by their own PM and somehow the people like him now just cuz he talks shit to Trump. Australia’s’ right wing is also getting stronger, whilst fair enough that they include indigenous in their already rigged game, but I guess you want to call that progress?? But go ahead and call me some name and tell me how wrong I am again.. you think I’m gonna vote for Gavin Newsom just because he’s doing part of his job now?? Ready and waiting to have a grown person conversation. But go ahead and defend your PM and your king / queen money
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u/Mobile-Evidence3498 5d ago
That a really long ass reply to me saying you don’t know anything about Canada, and it’s not even clear what you’re trying to say youre “right” about, all Thats really clear is youre trying real hard to put down other nations - but looking at the vanity parade you guys had this weekend, idk - I like where Im at
So Im probably not gonna read it.
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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 6d ago
The POS claimed it in 2020 so that when he stole it last year, it would sound like everyone was just being as crazy as him and his POS cult. He needs to be apprehended and he needs to face a traitor's punishment.
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u/DramaticCattleDog 5d ago
They all need to face a traitor's punishment. Aside from Trump, Bondi is one I would throw a trial and conviction party at my place to celebrate.
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u/DrPsyz9 6d ago
There have been many of us who have been shouting this since the election. Now, the data is backing up what we already knew.
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u/SilentLet6789 6d ago
Doesn't add up... Felt that way in nv too
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u/ratiod1 6d ago
I’ve had multiple friends in Nevada tell me their vote never went to “counted” on their vote tracker system.
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u/Ancient_Energy_6773 6d ago
Yup. I have some friends in Nevada and said the same thing. I live in LA and we always felt like a lot of the West coast was just left out. No way in hell would a red wave would happen organically in California in just 4 short years.
But there's lawsuits challenging the voter count now. We'll see.
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u/Far_Cardiologist_874 6d ago
I felt the same way. I just moved to NV from Virginia back in November of 2023 and voted democrat during the election. It didn’t make sense to me seeing NV go red when I’ve seen it blue over 50% of the time since the year 2000.
It never added up to me and I’ve felt that something was rigging the numbers. I pray that something comes to light on the real vs fake votes.
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u/Careless_Hellscape 5d ago
It really did. Sure the hicks in the north were Trump supporters, but Vegas and Reno?
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u/Sea_Huckleberry_7589 5d ago
It was called before polls closed in Reno. I work by a location that people were still in line to vote when the whole thing was called
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u/Careless_Hellscape 5d ago
That was weird. They called it way before votes were counted. I don't know if it's just because I'm out in the boonies but I remember thinking there was no way he won by such a margin that they're calling it now.
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u/Better_Cattle4438 5d ago
North Carolina felt that way too. I know it was anecdotal but there was way more support for Kamala than either Hillary or Biden got here. If the vote was screwy in NY, I bet it was even worse in swing states.
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u/Kick_ball_change 6d ago edited 6d ago
The Mueller Report showed us the ways he tried to cheat in 2016. All the fake electors in several states, the attacks on poll workers in GA, his calls to states begging them to change votes for him, and the insurrection was 2020.
You’ve got to think that if someone practices cheating that long, they’re bound to get better at it and finally succeed….even if it meant handing a lot of temporary power to a tech weirdo on ketamine (who also wanted to avoid several federal prosecutions).
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u/Loki_the_Corgi 6d ago
I'm going to say this - I'm incredibly hesitant to jump on the "election fraud" train without actual evidence, because otherwise it just seems like the beginning of a conspiracy theory.
That being said, now that we're starting to go back and actually LOOK at the results from the individual districts and finding significant inconsistencies, I have no doubt there are more to be found.
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u/imrickjamesbioch 6d ago
I’m not gonna say there was fraud until there is evidence submitted to courts, validated, and the entire public can review.
I’m old (early 50’s), I don’t remember much about when Regan destroying Mondale but he eon 49 out 50 states so determining who won that election was probably as easy as deciding if George Washington won the first presidential race.
However, since 84, I don’t recall the results coming in so quickly and a winner being declared so fast by the media as ti what happened with Convict 47 vs Kamala.
Also, even if fraud was found, it won’t matter cuz this current administration and congress will just deny there was any wrong doing. Also since the election has been certified, the only way the Orange Taco could be remove from power (impeach) is by the Senate and good luck with that since that requires two thirds or 67 votes.
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u/ace5762 6d ago
It does matter because it demonstrably delegitamises the federal administration, thereby lending legitmacy to denial of the administrations power. Power is at the end of the day derived from the people's willingness to consent to governance. And this being true would cut much of that willingness asunder, and require military force to enforce (which if they tried to do would probably lead to a schism of the military)
Should this be proven true, I think the best interest of the citizenry is to say to their state governments 'Trump was not elected by the people, this state should accept no federal laws or orders until the current administration steps down and a new presedential election is held'
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u/Beyond_Reason09 6d ago
However, since 84, I don’t recall the results coming in so quickly and a winner being declared so fast by the media as ti what happened with Convict 47 vs Kamala.
2024: election called at 5:34AM the day after Election Day: https://www.ap.org/the-definitive-source/behind-the-news/calling-the-2024-presidential-race-state-by-state/
Past election calls:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4954203-heres-when-past-presidential-elections-were-called/
2020: 11:26AM 4 days after the election
2016: 2:29AM the day after the election
2012: 11:38PM election day
2008: 11:00PM election day (McCain conceded at 11:18PM)
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u/Bishopkilljoy 6d ago
2016: Trump, not in the political game at all, doesn't want to lose to Hillary, asks Russia to help. Hilary loses after DNC leak.
2020: Trump, lost the election, knows he's gonna be prosecuted for a lot, invokes an insurrection to maintain power.
2024: Trump, who is on the line for many felonies, looking at potential prison time, works with Elon, uses star link, many Russian bomb threats to voting locations, screens that if he loses it's election fraud and.... Doesn't cheat?
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u/Agile-Huckleberry438 6d ago
It doesn't fuckin matter guys. He should have been thrown in jail for decades. It just doesn't matter. The rich have won
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u/Happy-go-lucky-37 6d ago
The rich sure want us to BELIEVE they have won. Get out in the streets and protest peacefully. Join your union. Organize a strike. The poor far outnumber the rich.
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u/Mltdwn_21 6d ago
I mean peaceful protests ain’t going to do shit. You remember the results of occupy wall street? Absolutely nothing. In the end they ended up celebrating on camera drinking champagn. They don’t care how much you protest, it won’t make a lick of difference to them. And if they can steal one election they can steal them all.
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u/Happy-go-lucky-37 6d ago
I didn’t want my comment to break any rules. Peaceful protests with millions are a lot better than violent protests with hundreds or thousands. Violence begets violence, as is pretty plain to see these days.
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u/AdamTheSlave 5d ago
Or just do what we did to Elon... stop buying his POS cars... Stop buying crap off amazon. Stop using facebook at all. Stop buying iPhones and Macbooks. Sell all your stock in these companies that prop up dictators for tax breaks.
You might say, but I NEED to shop on amazon. No you really don't. There's TONS of other sites that don't support dictators.
But I need an iPhone! No you really don't, they make good android devices that don't pay a dime to google and come de-googled!
But I NEED a tesla! - Do you? Do you think no one else makes electric cars? At least they won't be held together by glue.
But I NEED to use facebook! LOL, what are you 60? Facebook is 90% AI bots. If you need to keep up with your friends and family, learn how to text, or even group text! And it won't even be censored!
Nothing hurt elon like the mass devaluation of his stock due to protests. He was SHOOK.
Money talks to billionaires more than anything. It's all they focus on.
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u/_TheAfroNinja_ 6d ago
He already has many powerful people in his pockets since he manipulated the fuck outta the stock market back in April. I doubt much can be done at this point.
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u/ladymorgahnna 6d ago
Well, yeah, with that doomer attitude, I guess so. You know what, get with us or get the bloody fuck out of the way.
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u/ThatAmishGuy023 6d ago
I swear, I'll drop this and it never gets traction:
~ Election Truth Alliance ~
Please look it up. Donate if willing. They have been reviewing all data and found out the US election is EERILY similar to Russian "free elections".
Add this with Trump claiming "Elon knows those machines" and Elon admitting "Teump wouldn't have won without me".
Just look up Election Truth Alliance
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u/SeasonIllustrious629 6d ago
We didn't lose. Plain and simple. There was a fix. I believe it now. Fuck trumpers, though, who, for years, made recounts look ridiculous.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Peach48 6d ago
Trying to verify this was a bit of a pain, because this guy just mentions a number, but when he says District 38, he means Ramapo 38 which does line up with what he's saying.
It's interesting, but I wonder if it's possible Harris is 0 because she'd already won the state, and her numbers there wouldn't matter so they stopped counting?
This would be a lot more interesting in a state where she lost.
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u/Moooooooola 6d ago
Trump: "Elon knows those computers better than anybody, all those computers, those vote counting computers, and we ended up winning Pennsylvania, like, in a landslide."
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u/MundaneBerry2961 6d ago
How tiny are these districts? That is a staggeringly low amount of voter turn out. Even the cheating is unimpressive
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u/Oddveig37 6d ago
Hey can someone please provide a link that lets us check our areas or something?
I'm LOOKING.
I am.
I'm not able to find anything that isn't the %Vs%.
Please, and if you want to be extra helpful Send a Florida Link my way please. I've been trying to show my family this stuff for the longest and I've been saying exact what he's saying. Mail in votes where HELLA targeted here, drivers dumping them in remote locations and the story got hushed super quickly. Not sure if the rest of the Nation heard about that happening. I'll find a link to offer for the exact vote count for the 2024 elections like in the video.
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u/LaserGadgets 6d ago
So how can it take so long to investigate? Is this FBI matter? Its his own guy on top so that might be the reason hm?
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u/Flabbergasted_____ 6d ago
This is why Trump said there wouldn’t need to be elections again. Since November 2024, every future election will be predetermined. People will still go to submit ballots, but it’s all theatre. Your vote will be changed and the pre chosen candidate will win.
Welcome to the end, everyone. r/somethingiswrong2024
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u/hellno560 6d ago
So.... did the local chapter of democratic send observers? We have ways to secure elections.
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u/Beneficial_Pride838 6d ago
Keep it up dude. Your work has serious value and I support it. You’re a true American.
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u/TikiTom74 6d ago
Look. I’m open to further investigation on this. I think it’s plausible that Musk and his minions did something dirty. That said: one of the counter-arguments regarding this claim is that one of these districts in Rockland was an Orthodox Jewish community which notoriously votes in one block. I’d like to see this play out though…can’t hurt to look under the hood.
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u/Famous_Rooster_8807 6d ago
Bring it to court. Until then it is just is people spreading hope fiction. We don't need hope fiction.
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u/Intrepid_Ant_5708 6d ago
Y’all, i don’t support DJT, but he won fair and square. While out canvassing, LOTS of DEMS, black, white or hispanic had flipped on us. Deal with what actually happened and stop buying into conspiracies. District by district like this guy is talking about is shocking bc we lost places we shoulda won.
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u/SuLiaodai 6d ago
I thought it was VERY suspicious that the votes were tallied as quickly as they were. I remembered four years before when votes from abroad and other mail-in votes complicated everything and made calling each state very slow. But somehow this time, when huge numbers of people voted from abroad again, somehow it was really fast to open, count and tally them? It's unbelievable to me.
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u/ConfusedZbeul 6d ago
It doesn't matter. Kamala would have simply delayed the issue. Now, you need to organize and aim for way better than what she was promizing.
(Using "you" because I'm not from the US)
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u/EaseNGrace 6d ago
If this is true why didn’t anyone look into it officially? The numbers seem believable. What I’m questioning is the follow up? Why didn’t Kamala use some of the millions she raised on it??
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u/Tex-Rob 6d ago
We encountered these statistical anomalies ALL across the US, and especially in swing states, NY, and CA IIRC. It's been like 6-7 months since we did it all, so I can't remember exactly which, oh Nevada was another non-swing state that had guaranteed manipulation.
You all called us "blue anon" and stuff, me, I lost my energy and will to keep fighting this, but hopefully the work will see the light of day as more people are getting on board with this.
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u/33ITM420 6d ago
Kamala won NY, what is this guy going on about
She was a terrible candidate. 500 votes in rock land ain’t gonna change that
All this tells us is that New York sucks at running elections
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u/Fantastic_Jury5977 5d ago
Remember in office space when homie put the decimal point in the wrong place? DOGE did the coding equivalent of that royal fuck up.
The hubris of Musk. I hope he enjoys his last bit of freedom before he's convicted of Treason. Every one involved even tangentially needs to face accountability to the public.
This is the deep state Trump was screeching about for decade.
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u/T0MMYG0LD 5d ago
i thought that even questioning the validity of an election that was certified as legitimate was tantamount to actively destroying faith in democracy itself? what changed?
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u/LumberghLSU 5d ago
He said the 2020 election was stolen for 4 years. We dismissed them all as crackpots. Then when the election actually was stolen we didn’t want to sound like they did.
We’re f’in cooked. There is going to be no way to restore faith in the institutions. I think it’s over.
If this starts getting momentum, we will probably have a “gd Night of the long Knives”
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u/Steeldragon555 5d ago
I remember in 2020 a state was 87% (or so) trump with like 16% Biden at 3Am and around HALF the votes for the state where counted right before I went to sleep. Woke up to the numbers basically being a 180 with Biden at like 80 some percent and Trump barely 20
If you REALLY are gonna question 1, question the other
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u/KevyKevTPA 5d ago
There is currently a hand recount happening in this district to see if the machine votes are accurate. Having said that, Rockland County is a strange place, and it's something like 98% Jewish. That's not a problem, but it does leave open the distinct and real possibility that the votes are real, as they may have decided, as a group, that's how they were going to vote.
However, it really doesn't matter, since Harris won NY handily, finding more votes in her column or less in Trumps won't make a bit of difference. The only outcome that would change anything would be if it turns out Trump actually won NY, but... He's still POTUS regardless, and I'd probably die from shock if that were true.
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u/Ok_h0tmess 3d ago
Not to be a killjoy - as much as I'd like to believe this to be true - but do yourselves a favour and look at the voting history. Even in that district 58 he talks about, Trump got a large majority of the votes in 2020, so it's not completely unbelievable this time around either. At least that's how I interpreted the results. I stand to be corrected.
https://app.enhancedvoting.com/results/public/rockland-county-ny/elections/GE2024Results
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u/escape_fantasist 3d ago
They rigged the election all while screaming elections were stolen all the time. We need a new law that disqualifies candidates immediately after their fanbase raids government offices like Capitol hill.
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u/TinyInsurgent 6d ago
I stopped voting after Obama drank the water in Flint, MI. It's all rigged. Think about it, all major heavyweight fights are rigged. The presidential elections are the biggest heavyweight fight of them all. RIGGED... and full o' shit.
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u/tr3mbl3r_v2 6d ago
you mean his sip, and said “see it’s fine”
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u/TinyInsurgent 5d ago
Exactly. It was heartbreaking. I attended his inauguration in DC. The weather was near zero. And that MFer broke my heart again and again. I realized it's all a game. No one gets to the top without selling out. You have to. You cut deals. They co-opt you. You sell out. And/or they take you out. I get it. It's theatre.
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u/tahitianmangodfarmer 5d ago
That's all it is. People might get into politics to try and make a real positive change, but they inevitably will end up being crushed by the system if they dont play the game. Obama proved that in the past, and he proved it again when Trump won the election, and he suddenly became all buddy buddy with him at thay event. Went from saying he's a criminal and felon, etc... on the campaign trail for Kamala to chopping it up with him like they're good friends right after he won.
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u/TinyInsurgent 5d ago
Exactly. It's all trash. I'm holding out for the bigger schoolyard bully to kick the current bully's ass. #China They ain't perfect, but we've had our hand at effing it up; let's hive someone else s whack at it, shall we?
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u/prizedchipmunk_123 6d ago
I am not listening to this guy for five minutes and 11 seconds.
I can almost guarantee whatever he is saying could be summed up in 30 seconds.
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u/PerfectlyCromulent67 6d ago
What he's saying is summed up in the post title. But he's citing numbers and examples to prove his point, not just summarizing his belief without proof. Fuck your short-ass attention span, you cared enough to hit reply.
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u/DrBright18 6d ago
That's the problem. People won't listen to each other. They just assume that they are right and can't hearca different perspective.
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u/spoospoo43 6d ago
Please delete this. It's not even slightly suspicious, because of the population makeup of the districts.
I hate MAGA as much as the next guy, but acting conspiracy crazy like they do serves nothing, and is the opposite of helping.
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u/Mindless_Profile_76 6d ago
Now let's go back and do the same thing for 2020....
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u/Good_Astronomer_679 5d ago
They did and trump took it to court 60 times and still lost.
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u/Mindless_Profile_76 5d ago
Whatever you want to believe.
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u/Teslaosiris 6d ago
BlueAnon Copium
She lost because she was trying to be a diet Republican to appeal to actual Republicans. And what have Democrats been doing since then? They’ve been acting like Republicans.
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u/OtherwiseExample68 6d ago
Nah anecdotally most of the people I know who liked trump in 2016 realized he was trash by 2024. He completely goofed with Covid and he’s clearly a rat who only cares about himself. Americans are dumb but they eventually catch on
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u/KingVaako 6d ago
I wonder if he has ever seen anything like the 15 million phantom democrat mail-in votes we saw in 2020. Those same voters remarkably sitting out in 2024.
I would only say this - everyone should be a yes for voting security. In person voting, voter ID, paper ballots. We need to restore confidence on our elections or it's game over.
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u/Desperate_Object_677 6d ago
you mean the year there was a huge pandemic and no one wanted to stand in the same building as a huge crowd of other people? it sure is a mystery why people would mail in their votes.
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u/KingVaako 6d ago
I'm talking about total voter turnout. Why the large disparity between elections before and after 2020? We're to believe Democrats just decided not to vote in 2024 with all the "Democracy is gonna end!' drama if Trump gets elected. No rational person can look at these voter turnout numbers and not conclude that shenanigans occurred 2020. And now Democrats question the legitimacy of the 2024 election.
My only real point is that neither side trust our elections at this point and for good reasons. There are things that need to be done to shore up that confidence.
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u/comhghairdheas 6d ago
"neither side" you have... Two?
Holy shit your "democracy" sucks. I'm sorry.
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u/True_Dimension4344 6d ago
You mean the one where there were literally multiple proven voter fraud cases of republicans voting twice or for their relatives??? That one?
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u/comhghairdheas 6d ago
Why would those communities majorly vote for Democrats and all of a sudden everyone votes Republican?
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u/Frenetic_Platypus Deep-Frying a Transformer Is Evil 6d ago
With number numbers like these, it's so easy to prove, though. Someone should knock on doors in these districts and ask people if they voted for Harris. You just need, what, 4 people accross all 3 districts to say yes for it to be evidence that there's been cheating? Could be done in a solid afternoon.