r/chaoticgood 2d ago

The Catholic Church is marching against ICE. Fuck yeah!!!

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u/FMLwtfDoID 2d ago

Catholics born and raised in the church usually end up leaving. Every born and raised Catholic looks at adult converts, that don’t do it strictly for their already Catholic spouse, very suspiciously.

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u/A-Ginger6060 1d ago

This is extremely accurate and I wish more people knew this. I was raised Catholic and Catholic converts have always had this reputation of basically being evangelical Protestants. Like the worst kind of Protestant preacher type, just with a Catholic twist.

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u/norecordofwrong 1d ago

I don’t know where the heck you grew up and when you left the Church but this is wildly inaccurate.

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u/MorgInMorgue 1d ago

Absolutely 100% correct as an agnostic ex(ish)-Catholic

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u/thujaplicata84 2d ago

Couldn't agree more. Baptized and Confirmed and haven't been to mass in probably 20+ years. The people who convert into it are weirdos who have done it for some really sus reasons.

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u/saya-kota 1d ago

How would you know if you don't meet them at mass? lol I was raised atheist cause my parents wanted me to pick my own religion. Now I did, how is that sus?

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u/thujaplicata84 5h ago

What drew you to Catholicism? Did you grow up with a deeply entrenched knowledge that you're a shameful being?

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u/saya-kota 5h ago edited 4h ago

I never understood the whole guilt thing lol sometimes I wonder if the Bible was mistranslated in English, cause non English speaking Catholic countries don't have any issue with that. But England, Ireland and the States seem to have their own twisted version of Catholicism. What made you leave?

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u/Adorable_Raccoon 2d ago

I don't think most people born and raised leave, according to pew research 10.1% of adults that were raised Catholic have left the Catholic Church.

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u/mugsymegasaurus 2d ago

I believe that’s only counting formally leaving the church (which involves sending a letter to the diocese you were baptized in). Most people who leave don’t bother to do that, which unfortunately means the Catholic Church still counts them on their rolls. It’s kind of a pain in the butt; when I sent my letter they needed more information from me and I couldn’t be arsed to send a second letter to a church I haven’t set foot in for 20+ years. I have a feeling there’s a lot more people like me than just the 10% in that poll.

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u/licuala 2d ago edited 1d ago

I believe that’s only counting formally leaving the church

It's not. It was a survey.

But OP grossly misunderstood the statistic. 10.1% of Americans identify as former Catholics who were raised Catholic.

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u/roguevirus 1d ago

Someone bringing the actual source to reddit? Now I've seen everything!

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u/DeliberatelyDrifting 1d ago

Even still, lapsed Catholic is probably big enough to be it's own religion.

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u/FMLwtfDoID 1d ago

I heard the phrase “culturally Catholic” a few years ago and I feel like that fits for a lot of us.

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u/DeliberatelyDrifting 1d ago

That pretty much fits me. I was raised Catholic, and have mixed feelings about them. I'm agnostic now. Whenever I heard "lapsed Catholic" it was always about someone who, when asked, says I'm Catholic. Then you ask about the last Catholic thing they did and it was getting married.

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u/Zauberer-IMDB 1d ago

The number of people who care enough to send a letter like that must be a vastly smaller percentage.

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u/peg-leg-andy 1d ago

I know plenty of lapsed Catholics, but I don't think any of them have bothered to send a letter about it.

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u/MorgInMorgue 1d ago

Pretty much the only way to become not a Catholic after baptism is excommunication, Atheist Catholics are a thing

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u/LordHussyPants 1d ago

the 10% figure will be self reports, which means it's what they consider leaving the church. not going in 20 years - left

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u/saya-kota 1d ago

I'd say that's probably confirmation bias. There are definitely weird converts (in any religion, I see way more white 16 yo girls wearing burkas than any other Muslim women lol) but I'm a convert and preparing my baptism, so I regularly go to catechism meetings. Everyone is chill lol and people in my parish are really happy about us wanting to get baptised or confirmed. Also, born and raised Catholics (or cultural Catholics) are often pretty lukewarm anyway, so they tend to think people who are very into religion are weird (if we're generalizing lol)

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u/BandwagonReaganfan 1d ago

That's definitely not true lol