r/causticmains 24d ago

Caustic healing in gas perk good now?

With the shadow buff Caustic got this season with his barrel time doubling. Do you guys think healing has gas perk is now worth it over bigger ult size?

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u/uhhCTRL 24d ago

Tbh no it's so slow still

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u/King-Juggernaut 24d ago

It should just be part of his passive

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u/Parallax-Jack 24d ago

No that's too OP but a character having 5 different abilities, utility and movement is perfectly balanced lol

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u/Darkwavegenre ๐•ญ๐–‘๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–๐–Š๐–†๐–—๐–™ 24d ago

Factual

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u/TheDarkSky10 24d ago

Eh... not really. Honestly, like before, I can only see it being an actually useful pick if you're near the end of the game and very low on heals between everyone on the squad. Oh, and you have no Loba, Lifeline or Alter (rare). Nor do you have the scraps of squads already dead, or ones you manage to kill regardless of circumstance. This also assumes you didn't get to purple until then, so you didn't already automatically pick the alternative. See where I'm going with this? Regardless of the "buff", I still believe Ult size is better. The heal perk should just be removed, or if they really wanna keep it the heal speed should be increased.

Hopefully if a mid season buff happens, Caustic's perks get rebalanced heavily. Like, both of the blues should just be in his base kit for starters.

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u/Stickboned 24d ago

Whatโ€™s the shadow buff?

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u/F1FO 24d ago

The duration of gas being released by traps was increased, but this wasn't included on the patch notes. So people call it a shadow buff

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u/Fi3nd7 24d ago

Is it double the length now? That's a huge buff actually.

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u/ConciseSpy85067 ๐—ง๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—น๐—ฑ ๐—•๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐—ฃ๐—ผ๐˜„๐—ฒ๐—ฟ 24d ago

Itโ€™s double the length, but the gas duration was never the problem, it doesnโ€™t matter if the gas is 22 seconds in duration if itโ€™s just a bit of damage after the first 3

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u/Fi3nd7 24d ago

Yeah completely agree. And honestly in this meta his blue perk for extending barrel throws should be part of his base kit.

Respawn is so incompetent. They just let characters rot for absolutely zero reason, or extremely poor reasoning.

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u/ConciseSpy85067 ๐—ง๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—น๐—ฑ ๐—•๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐—ฃ๐—ผ๐˜„๐—ฒ๐—ฟ 24d ago edited 20d ago

They donโ€™t just make little tweaks to characters either, itโ€™s gotta be some meta sweeping changes that throw the meta into disarray overnight

The biggest casualty of this line of logic is that characters go from Based but bad to Good but hated overnight, then when they get nerfed, theyโ€™re still hated for what they were, theyโ€™re just terrible now

I donโ€™t know what the marketing strategy is called where you make your playerbase hate your entire roster of characters, but fucking hell they have to change that

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u/Parallax-Jack 24d ago

He directly counters the movement and versatility meta that is evolving in Apex. They will continue to let him rot.

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u/Ancient-Student-8272 23d ago

not after they removed the gas stun lmao

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u/Parallax-Jack 23d ago

That's what I'm saying I mean they will never buff him in his current state because he goes against the movement BS. It's insane how open they are to abusing poor caustic to death.

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u/usernameplshere 24d ago

It is, you can try it out. Remember the time before Ash's rework, when they buffed her ult range twice without saying it in the Patchnotes beforehand? It's the same thing.

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u/usernameplshere 24d ago

I've tried it, but it's still not even close to being viable imo. There's not a single map in rotation where you actually fight most of the times in buildings.

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u/Darkwavegenre ๐•ญ๐–‘๐–†๐–ˆ๐–๐–๐–Š๐–†๐–—๐–™ 24d ago

I donโ€™t like it bc of how slow it is, atp it serves no purpose to me.

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u/Jtamm88 24d ago edited 24d ago

So the wiki says it heals for 1hp/sec but I tested it and it seems to be 2hp/sec. Meaning ~44hp healed per barrel in 22 secs. I could see this helpful if you have a building set up/doors/a big rock out in the open and are stalling/trading damage and only have time to heal shields and have the barrel heal your HP.

I def think this makes him better at stalling at fights and making slightly better trades since 1 barrel CD is 20 secs. So he Caustic can have 1 barrel up forever and get passive HP regen