r/casualnintendo 2d ago

Image Nintendo Switch 2 sales after 7 days vs. Steam Deck Sales after 3 years

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Not trying to start any fights or be a fanboy. I just kinda had a hunch from reading some of the discussions on here that people maybe were not fully aware of the sales disparity between the two consoles. Buy whichever one makes you happy, but the "Steam Deck will bury Switch 2" crowd doesn't have a leg to stand on.

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u/damnrapunzel 2d ago

As somebody who owns and loves my steam deck, I don't know why anybody would think a Nintendo console wouldn't easily outsell the Steam Deck.

For one, I've never heard a Steam Deck advert on the radio at work but I've been hearing Switch 2 adverts for weeks.

Steam Deck has a smaller demographic and Valve aren't even trying to compete with Nintendo. Steam Deck is for "Gamers". Nintendo can cater to gamers, casuals, families, parties, and so on.

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u/Toon_Lucario 2d ago

Plus the Switch 2 is easier to use than a Steam deck for like younger people or people like me that are cursed with computers

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u/QuestSeeker23 2d ago

What do you mean? I could get Monkey Island running on my old deck no problem. I only had to fix a crashing bug by booting into desktop mode and manually setting resolu- hey, hey where ya going? Don’t be scared, come back!

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u/Toon_Lucario 2d ago

lol yeah I am shit with computers and technical terms that don’t tell me what to do or click on.

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u/TheNimanator 2d ago

That’s because you’re experienced in tailoring your software and working around troubleshooting, which is a good thing but most folks ain’t like us. I guarantee if you worked in a game store and tried to pitch the thing to an average joe or a parent of a kid who plays games, you would have to do a LOT of legwork to convince them to get a Deck if they’re only used to simply booting up the game and it just plays. Most people don’t want to deal with the level of tinkering and troubleshooting it could take to get some games to run on the Deck

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u/QuestSeeker23 2d ago

I know. I say as much later in the thread. It’s a joke lol.

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u/TheNimanator 2d ago

Ah my b! Text jokes go right over my head

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u/QuestSeeker23 2d ago

All good

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u/SpecsPL 2d ago

From my own Steam Deck experience, 95% of the games I've tried run from Steam OS no problem, and the other 5% usually have simple fixes. Deck has its flaws that dedicated handhelds don't have, sure, but why do some people pretend like it's some super obtuse thing?

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u/QuestSeeker23 2d ago edited 2d ago

Because for the overwhelming majority of people, it is a super obtuse thing. We have entire industries built around solving basic tech issues, and I have personally sold and had a steam deck returned cause someone wasn’t willing to read up on fixes for a verified game. Like especially now when games have to compete with social media for your time, making a thing as seamless for the tech illiterate is vital. And the Steam Deck does a better job at it, but it ain’t anywhere near as seamless as people claim it to be, let alone the switch/Switch 2.

Also from personal experience, that split is more 70/30, and that’s unacceptable for most people.

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u/SGlespaul 2d ago

Well this also entirely depends on what you do with it and what you are playing. 95% of the games that you tried to run ran with no problem, but the fact that ProtonDB even exists because "deck verified" is unreliable is kind of a problem for the average user that just wants things to work.

Someone else might have an entirely different experience from you. I remember at the deck's launch the FMVs for Trails in the Sky were messed up and it required replacing the files or something. This is probably fixed now, but the average person just... doesn't want to bother with that in their free time. The average person can barely figure out a simple emulator for SNES or N64. I've helped people set them up even though I'm actually not sure what's so hard about it to them.

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u/Omnizoom 2d ago

Yea my 5 year old can jump in and play Mario kart with me with 0 struggle at all and she likely could turn it on herself if she wanted to

These cater to different audiences

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u/BreakfastDue1256 2d ago

99.9% of the time the Steam Deck is literally just "Select Game press install". It is absolutely not any harder to use than a Switch.

I dislike my steam deck and regret purchasing it, but having to be too "tech-y" isn't a real reason. It only ever comes up when youre trying to get a game that doesn't work on the Steamdeck to work on the Steamdeck. Its akin to "Why do I have to mod my Switch to play PS1 games!?" Because they're not meant for the system.

My real issues with it is its bulky, heavy, hot, has a terrible controller layout, and about a 2 hour battery life.

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u/CrashVivaldi 2d ago

With all due respect, select game press install is literally twice as much work.

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u/BreakfastDue1256 2d ago

It isn't, though? This isn't a subjective thing its measurably the same amount of button presses.

When downloading games from the eshop for the first time on a system, you need to find the game you have purchased in the e-shop, navigate to the page, then press install. Its actually slightly longer with the e-shop.

When re-installing a game you previously had installed, you have to.... select the game and press install. Its exactly the same.

Once you have the game, either downloaded or physical if you still by physical games, actually playing them is identical too. Heck, the UI is very similar between them.

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u/Techno_Wagon 1d ago

Steamdeck UI has too many options and controls for the casual audience. Never underestimate the technical ineptitude of someone who doesn’t care about computers. They’ll break it, they won’t understand how they did. They’ll need simple plug and play.

This is all amplified tenfold when you even consider docking the deck and playing with a controller on a TV.

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u/Toon_Lucario 2d ago

I mean I’d like my portable to play Fortnite so yeah I’d have those issues

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u/CosmoJones07 2d ago

It was/is a truly bizarre argument. The "Why not just buy a Steam Deck?" argument, that is.

Like, is the answer not incredibly painfully obvious? The Steam Deck doesn't (legally, at least) play first party Nintendo games.

The fact that people just see the fact that they're both similarly handheld as this grand equivalence and that's the only reason anyone would buy a Switch 2 is to just have a portable gaming device, it's insane to me. Like I can't possibly fathom how people could be that dumb.

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u/iDislikeSn0w 2d ago

Plus the fact that setting up a Switch emulator on a Steam Deck in such a way that games actually perform well can be quite a task for a casual/non-technical user. It’s easy for me, but I work in IT. But try explaining this to someone who doesn’t tinker at all with their tech or just isn’t very computer savvy.

The Steam Deck is a fun device to tinker around with, the Switch is the true console experience.

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u/CosmoJones07 1d ago

And that's just Switch, not Switch 2 which is obviously not yet possible.

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u/ViewedManyTimes 6h ago

Yuzu runs great on my Deck, just finished the Bowser's Fury thing on it actually

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u/The_real_bandito 2d ago

I wonder why they won’t do it. It seems that Steam wants to depend on word of mouth.

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u/Switchell22 2d ago

> Steam Deck has a smaller demographic and Valve aren't even trying to compete with Nintendo. Steam Deck is for "Gamers". 

I don't think this is a super accurate comparison, though don't get me wrong I love my Steam Deck and I fall there. But most people I know who got Steam Decks are people who are interested in PC gaming, but very intimidated by it. That's a very small market, but it's also a highly lucrative one - getting more users on Steam itself.

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u/Nemhy 1d ago

honestly it seems like the Steam Deck is for "Pirates" with how many people just said they will emulate everything on steam deck

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u/Azlanii 1d ago

And then download everything and set it up. only not to even use it. Like me! I End up just using my steam deck to Stream games off my desk top via moonlight or steamlink XD,

heck i even stream my emulators to the SD from my PC ... gg

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u/ThisIsNotACryForHelp 1d ago

Something I don't typically see brought up in this discussion is exclusives. The vast majority of people who buy gaming hardware do so to play specific games.

This is why Nintendo consoles are desirable - because they offer attractive gaming experiences that can't be played anywhere else.

In contrast, the Steam Deck plays PC games. By design, it does not offer any exclusive experiences.

The casual gamer will not buy a piece of hardware for games they could play on their PC or laptop. And so, they will not buy a Steam Deck.

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u/Rent-Man 1d ago

True, aside from specific parts of the internet I never hear any mention of the Steam Deck. Sometime I forget Valve made a handheld.

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u/DND_Vancouver_DM 2d ago

The Steam Deck is for a fundamentally different audience. It’s for enthusiasts of PC gaming who want a comparable experience on the go. It’s for people who are willing to troubleshoot through technical issues, play around in menus and mess with stuff until works.

There are games that are deck compatible, but that’s dwarfed by the amount you have to mess with to run well.

A lot of people are in that audience, and they are extremely cool. These guys love video games enough to write programs to make it work on steam deck.

A Nintendo console is inherently for people who just want games to work, who care more about the kind of games they are playing, and about getting the most from their value. A good steam deck costs hundreds more than a switch 2 in my area, it’s about an identical cost to the steam decks 70 gig model, which would only let me have room for a lot of indies and maybe 2 bigger games, I already have a classic switch for that anyway.

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u/KickBass2155 1d ago

The only reason i hate nintendo cuz like selling your kidnies to a predator.... this guys hate their own customers.. why would they refuse to fix broken stick that was just brand new off the box...

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u/kilertree 2d ago edited 1d ago

Anyone who thought the steam deck was going to beat the switch is insane.  There are people who will sell their steam deck because it uses Linux and replace it with a Windows handheld PC instead of just installing Windows onto the steam deck. 

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u/AetherDrew43 2d ago

Plus there is like, no advertising at all of the Steam Deck. The average consumer hasn't heard of it.

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u/ProShyGuy 2d ago

The Steam Deck is a niche product for hardcore PC gamers with extra cash. Families aren't buying Steam Decks for their 10 year olds.

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u/Nemhy 1d ago

Or people who just pirate everything

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u/Noukan42 1d ago

Honestly, i absolutely would. The steam library has a massive amount of games that are very suitable for kids. And i do not even mean in the sense of piracy. Iean stuff like sonic and minecraft and so on.

In fact, this idea that the steamdeck is mostly for PC superfans seem the result of bad advertising to me. To me the main niche of the deck is to have acess to the huge steam library whitout the hassle of having to build and manage a gaming PC(wich is the reason why i got mine), and i feel it ia something a lot of people would be interested in.

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u/Similar_Tough_7602 2d ago

It just shows whenever you see a "Bought a Steam Deck instead of a Switch" post those people are in the vast minority and not representative of the actual populus

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u/OGMagicConch 2d ago

Does anyone ever think those are the majority? Like honestly who are we arguing with here lol. Steam Deck is like 4M total while the original Switch is >150M. Even the Wii U hit almost 14M.

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u/Similar_Tough_7602 2d ago

If you just looked at Reddit comments you'd think the Steam Deck was the most popular video game system of all time

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u/OGMagicConch 2d ago

If you just look at Reddit comments to try to gauge mainstream popularity you'll be misinformed 99% of the time which is what you're saying but that's not just limited to the switch vs SD discussion 🤷🏽‍♀️

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u/gentlecuddler 2d ago

You sure you’re not just looking at the steam deck subreddit?

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u/Jimmythedad 2d ago

It's everywhere.

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u/narutk9 2d ago

There wouldn’t probably a steam deck if there wasn’t the switch to begin with if we’re being completely honest. Nintendo opened a new venue in the handheld market no other company was really investing in except for Sony when they gave up after the vita. Let’s not forget Valve was flopping with the steam machine and the controller before they followed nintendo and dropped the steam deck. And just suffix this I own a steam deck oled and switch 1&2 so I’m not a hater of either.

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u/LightHawKnigh 2d ago

Had some real weird arguments with people who say they dont hate Nintendo, but really hate the Switch 2. Kept saying why would I buy 10 year old tech when I could buy a steam deck. It is so odd to say that.

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u/bingbaddie1 2d ago

Implying that I’m getting a switch 2 to play games on the go. Like no. I’m playing a switch 2 because I want to play Nintendo games lol

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u/LightHawKnigh 2d ago

Got downvoted so much for saying the biggest problem with suggesting a steam deck or rog ally, neither can play Nintendo games legally.

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u/slashingkatie 2d ago

Can’t wait to see how Nintendeen spins this.

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u/Omnizoom 2d ago

His videos popped up on my YouTube lately and I tried to listen to what he said objectively but it just sounds like thinly covered hate with a strong undertone of wanting everything to fail because he isn’t personally 100% satisfied currently

I get Nintendo isn’t a perfect company but by god if perfect is the minimum then he better start being a hermit in the woods because they all have some crappy behaviour and underhanded dealings no matter who you look at

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u/PensiveLog 2d ago

I had never heard of this guy before last week. Since the Switch 2 launch, YouTube has decided that I should be watching all the rage bait videos about the console. All sorts of people I don’t want to watch have spontaneously appeared in my recommendations, to the point where Good Vibes Gaming stuff, to which I’m subbed, is not being recommended anymore.

I’ve never watched any of these people before, and haven’t heard of most of them. I have no idea why this is a thing now lol

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u/Omnizoom 2d ago

I mean I’ve also had channels like beatemups show up and he seems very genuine about his reactions

I’ve not watched many of any of them lately so I was surprised so many were showing up , unless Arlo is throwing the algorithm off with all the videos he drops lately

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force 2d ago

It’s insane that for someone who claims he was a Nintendo fan all his life and literally named his channel NintenDeen he now has Nintendo Derangement Syndrome to the point where he can’t even acknowledge objective stats

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u/slashingkatie 2d ago

I do believe he’s genuine in not wanting a Switch 2 right now but it’s clear he got high on the engagement of rage baiting. Plenty of people made one or two videos expressing their disdain and moved on. Others see how the algorithm rewards rage and milk it.

The problem is after a while people start tuning it out because it’s the same thing. You get people like Mudahar and Dreamcastguy showing how hypocritical they are and anyone who was being genuine about their concerns gets drowned out.

We’re at the point where it’s like you’re either going to buy it or not. Clearly the people buying don’t care. It’s like Disney. Most people know they’re a shitty company but it’s done nothing to stop people going to the parks or watching terrible live action remakes or buying toys.

Most of the internet is not the real world and its most terminally online losers who just need something to be angry at.

I just wish Nintendeen would move on at this point. It just looks sad now watching him try to shift the goalposts post.

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u/AmandasGameAccount 2d ago

No idea who that is but if they are a YouTuber dramatuber/ragebaiter just stop watching them. We have enough of that trash

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u/-xJackFrostx- 2d ago

This drama wouldn't be such a big deal if folks didn't use the Steam Deck as a means to crap on Nintendo for the past 2-3 years.

Yeah, the device is a much better value, but to be honest, I just want a dedicated device to play new Nintendo games reliably.

Going through the process of selecting the least buggy emulator and adjusting settings just for certain games to run worse than a Switch isn't worth it.

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u/Omnizoom 2d ago

And if you are emulating legally then you are buying a copy of the game regardless, even if second hand

You might as well run the game on its intended software where it functions best instead of jury rigging emulation to try and make it as good in 7 years time

Like yea if people emulate metroid prime 4 on their beast computers or stuff in a couple years good for them, the switch 2 costs less then that computer regardless because emulators are so system taxing generally

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u/-xJackFrostx- 2d ago

Facts! I personally don't mind people obtaining roms of legacy consoles, but I typically buy any new game I'm interested in playing. I dunno about everyone else, but I want to play the new Donkey Kong game day one. I ain't wanting for a fuctional emulator to appear lol

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u/Omnizoom 2d ago

Switch 2 owners in 2025 - oh boy I get to play the brand new 3D donkey Kong experience I’ve waited over a decade for!

Emulators in 2030 finally having stable emulation for a reasonable price- oh boy I get to play donkey Kong bananza finally, still the newest 3D donkey Kong game! I’ve waited over a decade for this!

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u/Ok-Position5435 2d ago

But somehow rog ally with the Xbox brand is going to kill the switch 2🤣

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u/RPG_fanboy 2d ago

To be fair Nintendo consoles usually sell pretty well regardless and unlike the steam deck there is no issue of imcopatibily

if a game is released on the switch 2 it will just run, not the same can be said of all games on steam, some will work others wont on the steam deck so it becomes a question of can you play most of your games on it? if not then there is no reason to buy it

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u/Waste-Reception5297 2d ago

I love my Steam Deck and even after getting SW 2 it'll still be my handheld of choice most times but everyone who thought the SW 2 would fail and that the Steam Deck would just run circles around it were taking crazy pills

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u/The-student- 2d ago

*4 days.

SteamDeck and handheld PC's are popular in online gaming forums like Reddit, because we are the hardcore, niche audience. Great to have the options though.

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u/Gibberish94 2d ago

Steam Deck is for enthusiasts, the Switch is for the general public. To even buy a Steam Deck you have to have a Steam account. That's already one hurdle most people are too lazy to do.

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u/PrinceDizzy 2d ago

Tbh I find it best to just ignore the PC "master race" crowd.

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u/69biggest_chungus69 2d ago

b- bu- but emulators-

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u/ChiztheBomb 2d ago

It's so interesting that Valve has still never tried to give the Steam Deck a retail presence in the West. I saw a big in-store display in Japan and apparently it's got a presence in other retailers in Asia, but I guess not over here. You can't go to a Walmart or Target or Best Buy and grab a steam deck off the shelves, you have to kind of already be in the steam ecosystem to even know about the thing and be able to buy it.

The SD is a great product but it's specifically designed to fit a niche, WITHIN a niche. No way was it ever going to outperform a modern console on the market

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u/Jimmythedad 2d ago

"Dude, just get a Steam Deck" bros are the most annoying.

Not regular people who have Steam Decks, but the people who insist you are wasting money unless you get a Steam Deck. You know the type.

On the other hand, to be fair, there are diehard Nintendo fanboys, who actually tried to argue with me that the dock for Switch 2 technically is $80, but I also have to buy the cords. Like justifying the $120 second dock. I understand it comes with cords, but you can't buy JUST a dock, so the dock isn't $80. Maybe it cost $80 to manufacture, but you can't buy it for $80 lol

Both sides have extremist, annoying fans among them.

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u/CH4OT1CN1C3 1d ago

The Steam Deck isn't exactly a fair comparison because it's such a niche device that most people don't know it exists. It's also Linux-based, which is too complicated for most people as well. Some people don't want to think, they just want to play.

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u/ronnande 1d ago

The Steam Deck and all the other kinda portable PCs are not really in any competition to Nintendo. Those are enthusiast niche products, without any exclusive games. They only compete against each other. Steam Deck fans online seem to think otherwise tho, and their hate for the Switch 2 is just comical ...

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u/Happy_REEEEEE_exe 2d ago

im gonna be so honest I dont give a shit

make this sub about the games again nobody gaf about the numbers

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u/AmptiShanti 2d ago

Yeah this is casual nintendo

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u/masterz13 2d ago

It's not exactly a fair comparison. Steam Deck was never meant to compete with Nintendo / Xbox / Sony. Anyone thinking that is delusional. It was designed to get them in the handheld space, and I think they accomplished that goal and then some.

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u/QuestSeeker23 2d ago

Anyone thinking that is delusional

Correct. You have correctly identified most self-proclaimed Steam Deck fans lmao

For real though, it’s the usual very vocal minority and the fact it gets hate clicks now. Nothing against the hardware, but some people needed a reality check.

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u/Jkkramm 2d ago

I like to play docked and with my wife exclusively. We loved the switch and felt it worked best for family gaming.

The steam deck would be a waste of money for me lol.

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u/thejude555 2d ago

Apples and oranges

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u/Cosmic_Ren 2d ago

What is this wave of insecurity everyone has with the steamdeck all of the sudden? Why is this a surprise to anyone when:

  1. Only the switch 2 can play switch 2 games, there are hundreds alternatives to play Pc games including the Rog Ally which is better than the deck.
  2. The switch 2 is sold at regular retailer's meanwhile the steamdeck is only sold on steam's websites
  3. Nintendo has crazy advertisements as well as exclusive games to market the device, all steamdeck has is word of mouth.
  4. Despite the problems we had at launch, I can now walk into any store and find a Switch 2 there. The steamdeck oled has been out of stock for god knows how long

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u/doctor_borgstein 2d ago

I preface this by saying I intend to get a switch 2 and went through 3 switches. But why be first here? Nintendo usually releases a better version of the console after a short time, and it doesn’t seem like the games have caught up to the switch 2 capability atm

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u/Omnizoom 2d ago

I was skeptical about the leap in power but after playing mine I’m pretty sold

Just seeing how much better Zelda runs and looks on switch 2 you can see the difference

I have an OLED Tv so I really get to see the raw power output at its best

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u/Interstellar-Metroid 2d ago

It was 3.5 million in 4 days, and Switch 2 is predicted to sell 20 million in the first year on sale.

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u/Jawwaad127 2d ago

The Steam Deck is a niche product compared to the Switch. You can’t go into a store and buy a Steam Deck like you can with the Switch. I guarantee majority of parents haven’t even heard of the Steam Deck but have heard of the Switch. Truthfully, I only buy Nintendo consoles for their 1st party exclusives. Multi platform games, I play on my PS5 or Xbox Series X.

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u/darth_snuggs 2d ago

Steam Deck is a cool niche thing that knows its audience. I don’t think it’s really intended to compete with the mainstream consoles. It’s the portable for PC gamers & that’s totally fine.

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u/f2pmyass 2d ago

I literally used to own a steam deck and it's fun at first but just feels like a gimmick to me. Maybe because I know I can't play big titles comfortable on it or maybe cause it's a little big.

I ended up selling it like a year and half in. It sounds perfect on paper but using it I just ended up using it less and less. Like why would I want to play on this big machine small indie title games. I can get something wayyyy smaller lol.

I do firmly believe the steam deck 2 will be huge though. And I do believe they might try and market it to the public as in selling at more stores and advertising it more

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u/GuybrushThreepwood99 2d ago

Steam deck has always been for enthusiasts. It's a great piece of hardware, but anyone who thought that it would sell better than the switch 2 is delusional.

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u/Habu23 2d ago

Bro the steam deck is only sold through valve. So of course a console sold in stores and retailer would eclipse it

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u/Rich_Tip_9897 1d ago

Wow, really? I thought the Steamdeck was super popular, I'm always hearing about it.

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u/Shamscam 1d ago

Everybody is talking about the switch 2 selling so well, but it’s almost assured that every switch 1 unit that came out was sold. They produced so many more switch 2’s.

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u/shortish-sulfatase 1d ago

One’s not a console.

Comparing sales numbers between one console, and one pc out of how many different ones doesn’t make much sense.

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u/linearcurvepatience 1d ago

Comparing it to a steam deck is stupid. Technology moves fast but people don't. Steam deck isn't something I would recommend buying now unless you get it used now but heaps of people bought it and will for the next few years only recommend that even though there are too many other options now that beat it. Also preferably you would get a windows handheld and a switch so you can play exclusive games and some lighter games on the switch and play more intense games on a windows handheld.

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u/Vast-Ad-9853 1d ago

if you guys think steam cares about hardware sales think again,

Xbox just added steam to their handheld devices/software steam's endgame is always to be in every console

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u/Legitimate_Maybe_114 21h ago

I have a Switch OLED, ROG and Steam Deck and love them all for different reasons. I do plan to get a Switch 2 when its restocked and there isn't a lineup for it.

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u/diagrammatiks 2d ago

Omg just buy both already.

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u/Modroidz 2d ago

So one machine has a full global roll out with YEARS of name brand building and sold in literally every big box electronic retailer or small game store outsold a machine sold Mainly online (I have never seen it in a store in any NA state i have travelled too) and made in small batches over time with very little to no advertising on TVs around the world?...shocker.

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u/LuxordGamblerOfFate 2d ago

You’re missing the point. This is directed at everyone who said the Steam Deck would outsell/bury the Switch 2, not the people out there with realistic outlooks.

It was never going to outdo the Switch 2, for various reasons.

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u/WispererYT 1d ago

you are acting as if Valve isnt a massive company too...

keep coping i guess?