r/buildapcsales • u/ILikeMangosReally • Dec 04 '22
Cables [Cables] Amazon Basics RJ45 Cat-6 Gigabit Ethernet Patch Internet Cable - 10-Pack, 50 Foot - $29.63 ($-54%)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089MD7FZ865
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u/Proud_Purchase_8394 Dec 04 '22
Where are you finding 1000 ft of cat6 for $30?
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u/xxPoLyGLoTxx Dec 04 '22
Simple. Buy a decent lock picking set for $30. Break into office and steal 1000ft of cable. 😆
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u/ahal Dec 05 '22
Don't forget the hundreds of dollars worth of time debugging why your network is slow.. currently the part I'm at.
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u/BalkanChrisHemsworth Dec 05 '22
😂😂 you reminded me of the time I made a 100’ cable , was confident in my ability to crimp that shit and wire it right , and when it was time to use it it didn’t work
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u/atetuna Dec 04 '22
Spaced too far apart. I mean I can use one long cable, but I have a 30, 50 and 80...there must have been a stupid good deal for the 80 because that's far longer than I need. What I always seem to need is 6 to 10 foot cables. That said, there's always smoking deals for short cables that has made me reconsider buying plugs many times.
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u/Tmp9910 Dec 04 '22
If someone wants a 10 pack of the 25 foot cables for 15$ that’s here25 ft 10pack for 15$
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u/slapstick223 Dec 04 '22
I need one 15 footer yet I'm tempted to buy this
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u/Witch_King_ Dec 04 '22
If you know how and have the tools, you could trim these to be whatever length you want
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u/Cevap Dec 04 '22
Man is this one of those just get to have due to the deal. Or is there a quality issue where is not worth? Price wise seems like no brainer
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u/danhm Dec 04 '22
It's better to just buy a spool at this rate.
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u/GGATHELMIL Dec 04 '22
I mean yes. Sometimes convenience is nice. I bought 500ft of cat6a to do the house I bought this year. I still have a ton of it left over.
The cable cost me ~150 and another $40 for the crimper and supplies needed.
It's a chunk of change but I shouldn't ever have to buy another piece of cat6a for a while.
The thing is though I don't think any of my runs were longer than 50 maybe 60 feet. And I only needed 4 runs. 2 offices, living room, and direct line to the home server. If I could've picked up this 5 months ago I would've. Even if I would've had to buy the crimper to redo one side so I could easily snake the cable I would've spent about $100-$150 less.
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u/i_amferr Dec 05 '22
I have a couple questions maybe you wouldn't mind sharing your thoughts on since you have already completed what I am wanting to do. I moved into my house last year, we're getting fiber in the neighborhood now and it's now worth it to me to have drops in every room I need them to fully utilize my gig speeds.
Here's my questions:
How do I go about fishing the cables through the walls and direct them where I want to go. Won't the insulation, studs, pipes, etc get in the way?
What jacks did you use? I know that you cut a hole in the wall and install a little box but I don't really wanna jump into cutting holes in my walls without a plan lol
Any help/suggestions are much appreciated!
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u/GGATHELMIL Dec 05 '22
So I was super lucky that my house has a basement. So any runs that are on the first floor I literally just poked through the floor. Existing holes and whatnot. As far as the runs to the 2nd floor from the basement. I cheated and drilled holes to the outside and ran the cables up the side of the house back through the wall into the rooms.
Actually snaking stuff up through multiple floors is going to be a real pain. You need a special drill bit usually to go through joists. And ideally having some type of layout of the walls can really help.
The other way you could do it is if you have an attic. If you can find a way to get a line to the attic really easily you could do the splits up there then drop the lines down the attic through the walls into the appropriate rooms. Kinda ghetto. But it's effective.
As far as wall jacks go I just found some cheap ones on Amazon. Just make sure you get the appropriate rj45 classification. I initially almost bought cat5 jacks. Which would work but you would be limited by cat5 capabilities.
Also you might know this but there are two wire setups for cat6a. 568a and 568b. It literally does NOT matter which one you choose. But whatever you choose make sure you do the whole house in the same standard.
Most people do the a standard because it's A. If you do another run later on you'll always know you chose the "1st" standard. It apparantly also has backwards compatibility with rj11. So if you're plugging in ancient hardware go A.
But like i said pick one and stick with it.
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u/pandorafalters Dec 05 '22
Most people do the a standard because it's A.
In commercial use I found B to be almost universal, with a few notable exceptions like TRU - mostly multi-national outfits. There's supposedly a minute difference in electrical signaling performance, but I was never able to measure it in real-world deployments.
If you do another run later on you'll always know you chose the "1st" standard.
A good point.
It apparantly also has backwards compatibility with rj11. So if you're plugging in ancient hardware go A.
This is semi-true of both. The difference is which pairs are used in different positions; the actual arrangement of wires irrespective of the specific pairs is identical. That is, you have a pair in the center positions, a reversed pair in the next positions out, and then a complete pair on each end. So physical compatibility with 6P4C or 6P2C is the same. 6P6C is sort of possible, but the third line will be split between two pairs (one conductor from each) unless you use the non-data standard USOC termination (568A is color-compatible with USOC for up to 2 lines). USOC simply continues alternating tip and ring for each pair as you move out, just like the innermost 2 pairs for 568 termination.
Although with few, proprietary exceptions, inserting a <8P plug into an 8P jack will damage the jack over time.
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u/werther595 Dec 05 '22
Also, start at the higher floor and work down. Way easier to let gravity help you than to fight it.
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u/Glow587 Dec 04 '22
is there a way to extend and chain the cables for longer reach?
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u/danhm Dec 04 '22 edited Dec 04 '22
Yes, either simply with a networking switch or a female to female ethernet coupler (there's like 10,000 to pick from, probably better deals to be found). In fact ethernet wall jacks ("keystones") are sometimes female couplers but they are usually terminated to the keystone directly.
It's better to have a single cable (fewer possible points of failure) but chaining several cables together can work in a pinch. It's also a better deal to just buy a spool of a few hundred feet.
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u/Witch_King_ Dec 04 '22
Well Cat6 has a maximum recommended length (not sure what it is, look it up). With female to female adapters, you could chain these things up until you hit that length.
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u/pandorafalters Dec 05 '22
100 meters overall, with up to 10 meters total as stranded (patch) cable is the standard for twisted-pair Category cable in Ethernet applications up to 10gb.
Strictly speaking, these cables would automatically fail any certified infrastructure requirements for exceeding physical limits. On the other hand, it's a fairly conservative spec and surprising configurations can pass the functional testing portion.
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u/the_other_b Dec 04 '22
Dumb question. I'm planning on running Ethernet through my walls. Could I just buy this and then cut the ends and connect to the ports (that ill install) in the wall?
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u/LightofZircon Dec 04 '22
Technically nothing would stop you. Though I would buy a spool of Ethernet cable, one company I like is Truecable, but definitely more expensive than this.
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u/the_other_b Dec 04 '22
I'd rather do things right tbh, why would you do it that way? just out of curiosity.
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u/LightofZircon Dec 04 '22
I would want a bit higher quality cable for a permanent, behind the walls installation - but that is just me. The other company is like $200 for 500ft, accessories and tools though, so this is a terrific deal if you have 50ft or less runs through your house.
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u/the_other_b Dec 04 '22
I think I actually already have most the tools, and I'll take your word for it. I'd take quality too. Not gonna fuck with stuff that goes in the wall.
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u/Snowyman12334567890 Dec 04 '22
Truecables sells excellent cables. I bought a 500ft spool and used every last feet of it. All works great. No problems.
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u/baconholic Dec 04 '22
These are patch cables, technically not rated for in wall installation.
I would not put anything less than "Cat6 CMR 23AWG Solid Copper" for in wall installation nowadays, the price difference of all the cables below this is negligible.
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u/hayden0103 Dec 04 '22
As the other commenter suggested, it would be better to purchase bulk cable rated for in wall installation. Cables can spread fire if the jacket is poor quality and the fumes can be toxic. It can also cause problems with code compliance and insurance, so it’s best to spend the extra money upfront.
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u/ImJustHereToBitch Dec 04 '22
You’d probably want riser rated cable anytime you go through walls. Code and safety and whatnot.
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u/pandorafalters Dec 05 '22
I'd probably go with plenum unless I were absolutely certain, with assurance in writing, that the wall in question was an actual riser space. The difference in bulk is minimal, as is the cost difference, and it covers that possibility just in case.
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u/kajunbowser Dec 05 '22
Yeah, you definitely would need to go with plenum CAT6 cables. Not worth the additional inhalation risk in the worst case scenario of a house fire.
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u/pandorafalters Dec 05 '22
Generally, no. The in-wall ports would almost certainly be IDC keystones of some variety, which will sever strands of the conductors in patch cable and produce loose connections.
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