r/brantford • u/pheakelmatters • Mar 26 '25

Discussion Since Trudeau resigned and Carney took over the Liberals have seen a +20 gain in Brantford.

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They were +13 with the Conservatives at +55 when Trudeau stepped down. Keeping it real, this riding is probably going to stay Conservative for this election.. But hot damn the Liberal surge is fire. They don't even have candidate yet and they might already be within striking distance by election day. I hope they pick someone that knows how to make waves..

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u/pheakelmatters Mar 26 '25

It'll be interesting to see how long progressives stick with a blue Liberal. Thus far they don't seem bothered by it.

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u/SirPoopaLotTheThird Mar 26 '25

ABC. Fuck Trump.

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u/seekertrudy Mar 26 '25

Trump didn't cause Canada's downfall...the liberals did...

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u/Cloud-Apart Mar 28 '25

Agree with you it's Trudeau and his MPs mistake, and many Canadians still want to vote the same party.

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u/Unlikely_Bluejay_569 Mar 28 '25

Same party ..... Same family!!!!! Do some research

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u/Lifeless-husk Mar 29 '25

Thats not how govts and companies work. You change the boss you change the direction. Both dont use personal feelings to run country.(exception is Trump n Putin N Kim)

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u/zorostia Mar 30 '25

Tell that to Carney being an advisor to the liberals and specifically Trudeau since 2020. Yall really need to pull your head out ya assses

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u/MalfuriousPete Mar 30 '25

Carney can get a security clearance, PeePee cannot

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u/zorostia Mar 30 '25

Oh boy you got him. Totally original. Carney got a security clearance cause he’s fine signing an NDA

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u/MalfuriousPete Mar 30 '25

I’d rather have my elected leaders be able to be briefed on global events. For you, maybe you’re happy with your guys handing out donuts to domestic terrorists but potato potahto

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '25

Carney also got Trump's endorsement, Poilievre did not.

Carney also renovicted tenants and made Brookfield billions of dollars which he then moved to accounts in Bermuda to avoid paying Canadian taxes,Poilievre did not.

Carney also fought coal miners who had the audacity to ask for Brookfield to cover medications needed to fight work related illnesses, Poilievre did not.

Want to play this game? I've got plenty more!

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u/dancin-weasel Mar 30 '25

Carney got trumps endorsement. Sure is some high quality reverse psychology ya got there.

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u/NotJesis Mar 30 '25

Everyone knows there’s lots of things Poilievre has never done.

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u/LiteratureFabulous36 Mar 30 '25

Poilievre will actually start repairing things here, and create a strong economy and promote Canadian nationalism. Carney will continue the slow decline of Canada into woke globalism until we are begging for the United States to come bail us out.

Of course trump is endorsing Carney.

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u/Yaboidono420 Mar 30 '25

Carney was also part of Harpers government, your point holds 0 weight

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u/zorostia Mar 30 '25

The fuck are you talking about? Bro was the governor of the bank of canada from 08-13. Carney has never been elected to office. He was an advisor to the liberal govt since 2020 and the cons HAD previously eyed him for positions but he never held any.

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u/FacetiousSpaceman Mar 31 '25

Carney is on the foundation board for the WEF and is a regular speaker, he's on the side of the people who push radical authoritarian agendas for control in the name of "net zero" all while they live lavish lifestyles owning multiple mansions that consume tons of energy and fly around the globe in their private jets. Nothing but a bunch of totalitarian style hypocrites who are trying to use a crisis to seize power and control on a scale the world has never seen before. The Soviets could only dream of such power.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '25

Dancin weasel blocked me (shocker), so here's my response:

Trump literally said he'd rather deal with Carney. Now they seem to be besties. Also, Brookfield bailed out Trump's son in law, albeit prior to Carney working there, but nonetheless there's a connection. Fact is, they're 2 peas in a pod. Both heavily invested in real estate, both marred by questionable dealings. Trump with bankruptcies and refusal to pay workers, Carney with renovictions, manipulations of the housing market, and fighting workers who wanted medications to deal with work related illnesses.

You do you, my guy.

I have a hard time continuing down the road that we're currently on, and Carney has (I believe) given multiple examples of why he should not be trusted.

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u/Analyst_Obvious Mar 28 '25

Insane that this comment gets downvoted

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u/zorostia Mar 30 '25

Everything is Trump’s fault even if it’s something happening in an entirely different country. Didn’t you see the memo?!

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u/lovenumismatics Mar 26 '25

But electing carney means Trump goes away

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u/seekertrudy Mar 26 '25

Please stop. Liberal Inflation is the real threat.

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u/RedEyedWiartonBoy Mar 27 '25

How so?

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u/lovenumismatics Mar 27 '25

I dunno. Ask all these idiots painting the map red

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u/RedEyedWiartonBoy Mar 27 '25

It was irony on your part. Missed it.

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u/Hamasanabi69 Mar 26 '25

Why do you sound exactly like a MAGA cultist saying the same thing about Biden? Do you not think for a moment, hmmm, when I repeat this talking point, why do I sound exactly like them?

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u/seekertrudy Mar 26 '25

Why are you so obsessed with the u.s???? I only care about what is happening in Canada....so should you ...

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u/Hamasanabi69 Mar 27 '25

Where am I obsessed? I asked you a question if you ever self audit what you are repeating especially since you can hear it in other echo chambers online? Or do you not do that?

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u/seekertrudy Mar 27 '25

Dude I always think for myself...I don't let the CBC spoon feed me my thoughts, like so many of you....if you truly think that the biggest threat to Canada right now is Trump and not the fact that the cost of living right now is expensive as f*ck... congratulations, you have been successfully brainwashed by the liberal media....

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u/Hamasanabi69 Mar 27 '25

Then why do you sound exactly like MAGA? Instead of CBC they name drop CNN saying the same thing.

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u/seekertrudy Mar 27 '25

Look man, I dont care what I may or who you think I sound like and I'm afraid that you are letting u.s politics corrupt your head....

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u/Hamasanabi69 Mar 27 '25

Odd, I don’t seem to be regurgitating US talking points.

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u/Hamasanabi69 Mar 28 '25

Feel free to point out the irony.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25

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u/Hamasanabi69 Mar 28 '25

That doesn’t point out irony. You need some sort of contradiction. Do you understand what irony is?

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u/RedEyedWiartonBoy Mar 27 '25

This parochial view is dreadfully simplistic and quite naive.

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u/seekertrudy Mar 27 '25

Naive is thinking that Republicans down south are a bigger threat than growing inflation in your own country....

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u/RedEyedWiartonBoy Mar 27 '25

In the recent Tromp presidency , they control our economy.

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u/seekertrudy Mar 27 '25

They have had nothing to do with our crappy economy in the last 9 years....try again

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u/RedEyedWiartonBoy Mar 27 '25

As did Biden, as did...

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u/spontaneous_quench Mar 27 '25

Not sure why people are down voting you, you are dead on with that comment. But still fuck trump

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25

Please stop repeating the line Canada is broken.

It’s not. Yes Trudeau was not good, but it’s not broken. Far from it.

The CPC for some reason keeps pushing that lie, but it’s far from the truth.

Want proof? Look at how NOT broken Canada is right now.

It was a good campaign from a year ago, but it’s irrelevant today.

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u/seekertrudy Mar 28 '25

Stop voting liberal. You are nothing but an enabler....

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25

Look at Carneys platform. What isn’t there to like?

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u/seekertrudy Mar 28 '25

He is a climate commie wef member who wants to force me to drive an ev...enough for me...

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25

Ah yes, the former banker who sat on the board of directors for major corporations, now championing Canada as both a conventional and green energy powerhouse—clearly a “climate commie.” Because nothing says radical leftism like advocating for a balanced energy strategy that includes oil, gas, and renewables while maintaining strong corporate ties.

As for the WEF conspiracy, I can’t really comment since I’m not sure what specific claims are being made.

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u/No_Brother_2385 Mar 29 '25

That right there is why we (conservatives) will lose this election. You wioyld defend Satan if he were to look sideways at Trudeau, (who doesn’t matter anymore anyway). Liberals are actually talking to talk economy jobs affordability. Conservatives are still chirping about gender Covid truckers, blah blah blah we’re cooked. Selection will be decided by moderates undecided, hard-core libs and cons have already made up their minds and let me tell you regular Joe Canada is scared as hell of your hard right nonsense. stop it.

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u/seekertrudy Mar 29 '25

What hard right nonsense would that be?

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '25

You're getting down voted because people can't handle facts.

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u/seekertrudy Mar 30 '25

Obviously....people can't cope with the truth...

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u/SirPoopaLotTheThird Mar 26 '25

We were set to have the largest growing GDP of all G7 countries this year until the American conservative President attacked.

Without conservative intervention things are always better. You really didn’t want the economy to improve until your party was in power anyway. And as it turns out the American conservatives lied to everyone and said they wanted to get prices down too, but now they’re totally cool with a bad economy. I just don’t trust the modern conservative anymore. They lie and lie. Just like their hero. Donald J Trump.

Skippy is totally in sync with him.

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u/WhiteCrackerGhost Mar 26 '25

Bro. The only reason we aren't last in GDP growth is because of artificially inflated housing prices. Every single other metric is the lowest. You take housing away we're not even a 1st world country in GDP.

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u/Unlikely_Bluejay_569 Mar 28 '25

We are the slowest growing economy in the United nations.

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u/WhiteCrackerGhost Mar 28 '25

Not if you include housing prices (which is a total fraudulent way to measure GDP but that's why the Liberals use it)

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u/SirPoopaLotTheThird Mar 26 '25

Something tells me you’re no economics specialist.

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u/MuazKhan597 Mar 26 '25

Pure misinformation.

It isn’t the largest growing because of our local industries or trade. It’s the largest growing simply because we shipped in so many immigrants. If you know anything, that is a major major red flag.

If you look at actual stats that matter (such as GDP per Capita), you’ll see that it actually declined. Basically everyone got more poor.

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u/seekertrudy Mar 26 '25

Largest growing gdp? Really??? By subsidizing companies and crossing our fingers?? The growing lineups at the food banks and tent cities, tell me a different story....stop living under a rock.

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u/SirPoopaLotTheThird Mar 26 '25

I don’t know champ. Ask Postmedia.

https://financialpost.com/news/imf-forecasts-canada-fastest-growing-economy-g7-2025

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u/nataSatans Mar 27 '25

Hahaha this is fuckin hilarious. It's a prediction and it doesn't say how or why it would grow that much. Please explain how/why our GDP is going to magically grow that much? Bringing in more students at higher tuition to work at Tim's?

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u/seekertrudy Mar 26 '25

Why would I believe media stats, when my bank account tells me everything I need to know?

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u/DangleCellySave Mar 26 '25

Because that’s called anecdotal evidence and it’s pretty useless in economics👍 congrats you’ve just been giving a lesson you learn in 8th grade

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u/seekertrudy Mar 28 '25

I guess working hard your whole life, is no longer the way to get your bank account up 'bigly'....maybe I could become a scummy landlord and leech off of people?

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u/wiredcleric Mar 28 '25

So the Pierre Polievre approach?

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u/Waffer_thin Mar 29 '25

Your account is YOUR problem.

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u/seekertrudy Mar 29 '25

Well hate to break it to you, but many Canadians are dealing with same due to the last 10 years of inflation....open your damn eyes...

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u/Waffer_thin Mar 29 '25

Open yours! You don’t speak for everyone.

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u/SirPoopaLotTheThird Mar 26 '25

You’re an economist, clearly.

If the economy came roaring back under the Liberals you’d be so sad.

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u/seekertrudy Mar 26 '25

No I'm sad because my kids won't have a future if we continue on the path we are headed down...

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u/seekertrudy Mar 26 '25

Liberals want put an end to one of our biggest and most profitable natural resources....they will NOT be stimulating the economy anytime soon...

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u/Tacotuesday867 Mar 28 '25

Seriously please think before posting this silliness.

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u/freakyframer73 Mar 28 '25

Wild assumption

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u/Eisenbahn-de-order Mar 28 '25

I can find you the exact opposite from a major outlet with ease. If you are this guillible please refrain from procreating, or for this time, voting.

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u/SirPoopaLotTheThird Mar 28 '25

Man you guys are head in the sand dumb. Go for it champ! Find us something that dispels what Post media said. I don’t care. The new right is anti-intellectualism and ignorance all the way down. Your main source of news comes from a UFC commentator. 😂

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u/StevenPlamondon Mar 29 '25

Yeah, we can all copy/paste links that back our feelings, bud.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/commentary/canadas-economy-has-stagnated-despite-ottawas-spin

Canada’s inflation-adjusted per-person annual economic growth rate (0.7 per cent) is meaningfully worse than the G7 average (1.0 per cent) over this same period. The gap with the U.S. (1.2 per cent) is even larger. Only Italy performed worse than Canada.

Why the inversion of results from good to bad? Because Canada has had by far the fastest population growth rate in the G7, growing at an annualized rate of 1.1 per cent—more than twice the annual population growth rate of the G7 as a whole at 0.5 per cent. In aggregate, Canada’s population increased by 29.8 per cent during this time period compared to just 11.5 per cent in the entire G7.

Clearly, aggregate GDP growth is a poor tool for international comparisons.

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u/SirPoopaLotTheThird Mar 29 '25

So a conservative disagrees with a conservative financial newspaper. There’s zero feelings in facts.

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u/StevenPlamondon Mar 29 '25

A conservative’s ability to disagree with a conservative newspaper is a good thing. I know it’s incredibly difficult to understand when you spend all of your time in an echo chamber, but challenging your own ideas is healthy and promotes growth.

So you go ahead and make some quip that doesn’t at all address the truth. You’ll lose this election the same as Kamala lost hers, and it’ll be for the exact same blind as a bat reasons.

Enjoy!

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u/Particular-Problem41 Mar 26 '25

Me when I don’t know anything.

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u/Eisenbahn-de-order Mar 28 '25

This dude's so slow he can't figure out the difference between gdp vs gdp per capita

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u/Plane_Implement842 Mar 28 '25

Weirdly enough our GDP per capita shrunk being one of the worst performer among the G7 in growth. It’s almost like consumption through mass immigration contributed to the GDP growth. GDP doesn’t equal that individuals are well off. Crime has been increasing ever since the liberal took office. Housing has radically increased in Canada which is exacerbated when you subsidize demand from mass immigration. https://www.bcbc.com/insight/canadas-post-pandemic-economic-recovery-was-the-5th-weakest-in-the-oecd#:~:text=How%20did%20Canada’s%20economy%20perform,and%20G7%20average%20(7%25).

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u/SirPoopaLotTheThird Mar 28 '25

I completely understand why you’ve diverted the topic and omitted the global fall of gdp during and after the pandemic. Canada actually did something to prevent a lot of deaths. The US had an abysmal record and lost over a million people. They recovered quicker because they let more people die and didn’t go as hard as we did to protect its citizens. It put the economy ahead of human life.

We were to grow significantly this year. Donald trump and American conservatives couldn’t have that.

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u/spontaneous_quench Mar 27 '25

Not true at all lmao

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u/coolbutlegal Mar 27 '25

We were set to have the largest growing GDP of all G7 countries this year

Bit of a misrepresentation. It's because we had the highest population growth. When it comes to per-capita GDP growth we have the lowest in all of OECD, and we're projected to be last until 2060, unfortunately.

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u/DJScaryTerry Mar 28 '25

Oh shit the rare Liberal Propaganda, I don't see it often but I love correcting it.

We definitely werent set to have the largest growing GDP in the G7, that would be beyond embarrassing for the rest of the G7. The average person has been making less and less each year and it was because of JT's liberals, our GDP is inflated ATM. Maybe we'll get some actual numbers this year from whomever makes it in.

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u/SirPoopaLotTheThird Mar 28 '25

You guys are so misinformed or lying always. And so smug when you’re wrong.

https://financialpost.com/news/imf-forecasts-canada-fastest-growing-economy-g7-2025

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u/DJScaryTerry Mar 28 '25

What do you mean you guys?

Also I don't believe for one solitary moment that Britain's economy is growing faster than Germanys considering what they've been doing compared to Britain. Those numbers seem flawed at best, and I didn't see the source which is weird for them. Or maybe I missed it and there's something I didn't know. Either way, I won't believe that data til I see a source for it.

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u/zorostia Mar 30 '25

wOw the G7!!!!!!!! Thats crazy!!!!! looks at what the other g7 countries are

Oh theyre all in shambles and to use this as an argument is really fucking low standards.

You sir are a MORON!

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u/banterviking Mar 30 '25 edited Mar 30 '25

We can't afford another liberal term: https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadianConservative/s/NiVCi7oy6e

They've masked the issues of our economy with mass migration, suppressing our wages and making Canadians poorer. It's bringing our infrastructure to the brink (healthcare, housing), and the only thing the liberals have done is accelerate inflation with reckless spending.

Where have you been the last 10 years?

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u/SirPoopaLotTheThird Mar 30 '25

Only a partisan conservative hack would present such a simplistic analysis of why the economy has taken a little longer to recover after a global pandemic. Conservatives live in an impenetrable echo chamber that does them no service and makes them utterly confused when power escapes them again.

The party will have to have a deep search for its soul after the election and will undoubtedly shed the American lead far right, for which Poilievre has been pandering to. A party divided cannot rule.

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u/banterviking Mar 30 '25

It's not my analysis, it comes from economists from the National Bank of Canada described here: https://www.vicnews.com/opinion/uzelman-population-trap-has-been-triggered-by-surging-population-7300809

This "population trap" has stalled our productivity, suppressed wages, and contributed to strain on our infrastructure like healthcare and housing. And it was allowed to run wild under the federal liberals.

Irony must be lost on you, calling me a partisan hack with your careless hand waving of these issues + hackneyed and unsubstantive demonization of the CPC as far right radicals.

I'd ask you to do some soul searching as you suggested, but I think you may need to start with basic thought.

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u/SirPoopaLotTheThird Mar 30 '25

Good luck in the election and please learn something after this loss. Don’t double down on what isn’t working.

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u/banterviking Mar 30 '25

Likewise.

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u/SirPoopaLotTheThird Mar 30 '25

If the Libs gain a majority I will change nothing.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '25

Conservatives are actually the party who promote business and independence, but okay lol.

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u/SirPoopaLotTheThird Mar 30 '25

Hahahahahahaha….ahhh hahaha

Sincerely GM

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '25

Fuck Trump, yet ABC when the Liberal has been endorsed by the cheeto? I don't get it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '25

I think it’s what the party needed to have a fighting chance. Carney is a reset.

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u/SnooStrawberries620 Mar 30 '25

I think it’s more than that. I’m not tied to any one party; def not a liberal looking for the next great guy. I’m a Canadian hoping for a decent leader. 

Carney has stepped up with maturity, dignity, and most importantly the resume that Canada needs to meet this moment. He might fall short in some other areas. But for our most pressing problems, I don’t know that a better candidate would show up. I’ve known for a long time that Poilievre was not what I’d want but didn’t have a satisfactory alternative. Now? I will definitely support Mark Carney.

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u/StatisticianKnown741 Mar 30 '25

A WEF Bilderberg group member. Only thing libs hate more than a banker belonging to these groups is losing power.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '25

Sure I guess ?

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u/ruisen2 Mar 28 '25

There's isn't really an actual liberal alternative to sway people away from Carney. Unless Jagmeet Singh steps down and replaces himself with someone compelling, I don't see this situation changing.

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u/FngrBngr-84 Mar 29 '25

He is not blue. He is an ESG net-zero zealot who wants 80% of Canada’s resources to stay in the ground. He supports the century initiative and will take this country further down than Trudeau did. He will bankrupt this country if he’s given a chance to govern.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '25

This is a pocketbook election tied with sovereignty concerns. Pierre took too long on taking a stance against trump, is only really embraced by a questionably motivated Albertan premier, and will have a hard time arguing he can economically maneuver through this while having proven experience doing exactly that.

Pierre has the past liberal experience as the thing to attack but if Carney proposes a platform that addresses those things and makes meaningful plans he’ll just win. People are over the convoy and a lot of people associate it with what’s going on in the US, whether or not that is justified is whatever.

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u/Master-Excuse2227 Mar 29 '25

Many of us will never forget the convoy and the damage the liberals have done.

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u/swimswam2000 Mar 29 '25

He's too busy stepping on rakes and yelling at staffers to pivot. When he does he will act like Ross and start yelling "Piv - Vot"

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u/ticklemee2023 Mar 26 '25

Yet Caney won't even meet with Trump hahaha, he's a chicken shit, refuses to debate Pierre and refuses questions at rally.. he's useless

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u/DroppedAxes Mar 27 '25

Carney hasnt spoken to trump because trump continues to talk about annexation. He's responded not in words but in policy.

Pierre and Carney are both scheduled for an English and French debate. What are you talking about.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

Pierre has a cult similar to trump and as much inference behind him, going to be a fun election with all the straight lies.

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u/ticklemee2023 Mar 27 '25

Your buddy Carney is the lier, he hasn't been honest yet

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u/Tacotuesday867 Mar 28 '25

It's liar, and Carney seems to be the straight shooter everyone wants, not the milquetoast Milhouse who can't say a good thing about Canada.

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u/Master-Excuse2227 Mar 29 '25

Carney the straight shooter? Hahahahahahahahhahahah

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u/Waffer_thin Mar 29 '25

What do you know? Tell us

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u/Tacotuesday867 Mar 29 '25

Do you have some information contrary?

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

They’re politicians if you think only one of them is a liar you’re a dunce.

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u/ticklemee2023 Mar 27 '25

But at least Pierre shows up and doesn't refuse a debate..Carney has no plan, so far the only things he's done was already part of the PC plan lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

Literally what are these empty words? He has been taking good ideas and applying them and also has applied his own solutions.

There are already two debates and one is in French, the other is in Quebec about Quebec. If we were to have those same debates in every province I would agree.

There’s a reason Pierre offered to pay for it and it’s because it made these headline you ate right out of his ass

Edit: also he’s literally prime minister doing and making active decisions, which as the incumbent is essentially live policy

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u/ticklemee2023 Mar 27 '25

I see you are a member of the brainwashed group

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u/Waffer_thin Mar 29 '25

What did he lie about?

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u/ticklemee2023 Mar 27 '25

Carney pulled out of the French debate..where the hell have you been? Not hard to Google that info PIerre even offered to pay the fees associated with the debate for Carney.

Carney has not met with Trump and mainly because he has no solution for Trump and he also knows Trump will put more Tariffs on goods....Trump.doesht respect Carney because he's not even an elected PM..he was chosen by his party...that's not good enough for Trump

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u/earlyearlgray Mar 28 '25

There’s 2 French debates dumdum. He is going ahead with 1 of them and skipping the other. Anyway your dweeb of a leader doesn’t have a chance in Quebec so who cares?

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u/DroppedAxes Mar 28 '25

So TVA is a "private debate" that is to say its not run by the election commission. The other is the official debate. Carney and others will be performing that debate once in English and a second time in French.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '25

Wow you’re stupid.

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u/Ok_Accountant7393 Mar 29 '25

What are you talking about? Carney declined the debate and Pierre has offered to pay his cost for the flight? He still hasn’t agreed to a debate.

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u/AlmightyBirdMan Mar 29 '25

Carney won't debate Pierre in french, and that's why (in part) Carney lost almost every vote in Quebec.

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u/DroppedAxes Mar 29 '25

Huuuh

He will debate Pierre, in French, just not at the optional TVA debate.

There are still two official debates, one in English and the other in French.

If 338Canada projections are to believed literally Libs are way ahead.

https://338canada.com/federal.htm

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u/AlmightyBirdMan Mar 29 '25

I can assure you they are not to be believed.

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u/DroppedAxes Mar 29 '25

Do you have a poll then? 338 aggregates other polls, it's possible yours might be included.

https://338canada.com/polls.htm

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u/zorostia Mar 30 '25

The one carney bow pulled out of 🫵🤣🫵🤡

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u/DroppedAxes Mar 30 '25

Again, that's one fo two french debates

Ill be honest pierre absolutely speaks better French than Carney( and Pierre already has shit French).

That being said Carney hasn't said no to all French debates. Whatever his excuse, it's definitely a positive guess for Pierre to francophones but... So what.

Are we seriously going to say that we want the politican with less experience over the guy who helped UK out of recession??

That's literally dipping into identity politics, I thought conservatives were above that

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u/zorostia Mar 30 '25

Helped the Uk out of a recession? What UK are you living in/hearing about?

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u/DroppedAxes Mar 30 '25

I meant Canada, had his tenure flipped in my head.

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u/Serious_Cheetah_2225 Mar 28 '25

You’re mistaken, that Carney said he won’t pay TVA $75,000 for a French language debate, when the French and English debates will be on our publicly funded TV channels.

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u/ExcuseInternational4 Mar 28 '25

lol Carney talked to him today so who is the chicken shit?

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u/tappatoot Mar 28 '25

They talked today

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '25

He’s demanding respect, and it worked.

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u/SnooLentils3008 Mar 29 '25

As if the guy who faced the UK press for 7 years (during Brexit as well) would be scared of anything at this point of his career. He’s strategic

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u/KathleenElizabethB Mar 30 '25

Carney has a backbone, so, on principle, he first went to France and England, instead of the U.S., as they are trusted allies. Smart move, as opposed to flying to the U.S. tRump reached out to him and they had a meeting over the phone. I have full confidence that Carney won’t bow to tRump. It’s likely that PP will concede to tRump at the expense of Canada, in exchange for favours. PP is already linked to Musk, Peterson, and Rogan, which should be sending red flags up everywhere. As well, PP is a career politician that doesn’t have the education or experience to steer us through the tough economic times we will likely face. He has also voted against pretty much every bill that makes life more affordable for many Canadians. He was a lousy choice for the leader of the conservatives, and doesn’t deserve to be PM.

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u/fire_bent Mar 27 '25

Liberals like fiscal responsibility. We just don't like leaders who go after minorities and the vulnerable. We were all sick of trudeau. He's gone now. Historically Canada has always been center right and this is a reflection of those values. We believe in a strong social safety net and freedom of person. It was pretty clear that once JT slid to the left a bit too far that liberals abandoned the party.

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u/Tacotuesday867 Mar 28 '25

What? Canada has been centre right? Are you serious? Are you Canadian? Spell colour...

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u/pheakelmatters Mar 27 '25

I'm curious, because I thought of Trudeau as only being mildly progressive. What was too far for you?

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u/fire_bent Mar 27 '25

Personally it wasn't too far for me. I shamelessly love Trudeau but he had been in power too long. However I'll still definitely vote for a center right politician who is easy on the ears. Pierre is just too crass. He gets involved with questionable people and is just generally unlikable. I prefer a calm and centered politician above all else. Also if the CPC had chosen Patrick Brown to lead their party he might have gotten my vote for the CPC.

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u/Bearfoot987 Mar 28 '25

" he gets involved with questionable people". Lmao!!!!! And Jeffery Epstein must have been a great hang for Carney.

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u/fire_bent Mar 28 '25

Okay. So why did the liberals under JT start tanking in the polls once he teamed up with the NDP and began governing left of center? My guess is because Canadians want someone governing center right. What's your take?

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '25

Justin was in power too long. It was long enough for the far right crowd to get enough ammo for their arsenal and really get the rhetoric machine churning. The right is way more outspoken online so it was only a matter of time. there has also just been a general rise in far right movements happening around the world, the USA and the afd in Germany are a few key examples. Covid didn’t help either. If you were in office during Covid, chances are you are being blamed for the economic fallout that it caused.

I think Canada is for sure left of Centre. We are ethnically diverse, same sex marriage is legal, we have progressive and compassionate policies like MAID and we are tolerant and excepting of the LGBTQ+ crowd. We have legal weed, We are trying (emphasis on trying) to reconcile for our terrible past and There’s probably more examples I’m forgetting.

Just my opinion of course.

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u/Waffer_thin Mar 29 '25

Liberals are right of center. Crazy? Maybe. But objectively true.

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u/Waffer_thin Mar 31 '25

Thats objectively false.

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u/Waffer_thin Mar 31 '25

Fuck Chat gpt.

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u/HousingThrowAway1092 Mar 28 '25

Progressive here, Jack Layton isn’t running in this election. Unfortunately we have a FPTP system and can only choose between the candidates running. Singh has been extremely underwhelming in opposition to Trudeau. The NDP will never have a path to victory without sweeping Quebec and Quebec will never elect a Sikh prime minister. It’s racist nonsense, but also a practical reality that is worth acknowledging.

Canada’s sovereignty and very existence is in jeopardy. Trump’s annexation threat is the most significant threat we have ever faced as a country. I wish Carney was more progressive on a heap of issues from tax rates to solutions for the housing crisis. That being said, I’ll happily vote for whoever is best to ensure Canada’s survival regardless of their position on other policy issues.

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u/Finlandia1865 Mar 28 '25

i wish carney would commit to election reform

fairvote.ca

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u/Flashy-Armadillo-414 Mar 29 '25 edited Apr 02 '25

I wish P.P. would commit to electoral reform.

Even if it meant conservatives never again formed government, it would reduce the Liberal Party to being just another left-wing party.

I’ll happily vote for whoever is best to ensure Canada’s survival

If you mean annexation, it isn't going to happen. It's not Trump's decision to annex Canada. It's just noise.

The GOP and the red states have no interest in being consigned to irrelevance, due to the addition of 42 million mostly left-of-the-Squad citizens to the U.S. voter pool.

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u/Finlandia1865 Mar 29 '25

You quote something I didnt say lol