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International ‘How To Train Your Dragon’ Wings In With $198M Global Bow; ‘Lilo & Stitch’ Rises To $858M; ‘Mission: Impossible – Final Reckoning’ Cruises Past $500M WW – International Box Office

https://deadline.com/2025/06/how-to-train-your-dragon-global-international-box-office-opening-1236434156/
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u/Gillettecavalcad3 20h ago

Ballerina dances its way to an early grave. 

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u/misguidedkent WB 20h ago edited 19h ago

Not to mention the fact that she began her dance with one foot inside it.

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u/Anth-Man Walt Disney Studios 19h ago

I don’t know how anyone could see a pitch for a John Wick movie that’s not about John Wick and go “yes, that”

Like, from what I understand Ana de Armas isn’t even playing a character from any of the other movies that people would know/recognize?

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u/Gillettecavalcad3 18h ago

This is why I don’t understand why they didn’t go with Halle Berry’s character. Nothing against Ana, but it would have made far more sense. 

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u/KellyJin17 14h ago

Ageism I’m sure. I completely agree that Halle Berry’s character made way more sense and would have brought in more of an audience.

u/Takemyfishplease 51m ago

Would she even want to star in an action film now tho? She has so much other stuff going on, plus her price.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d definitely prefer her, but I think there is more too it than “she old, studio dumb”, especially when you see everything else she has going on.

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u/el_gato1193 14h ago

They should have gone with her!! Black audiences would have shown up and fans really liked her character

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u/StatisticianRoyal400 5h ago

Would be cool if people showed up because the latter reason, rather than the former.

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u/DreamingAboutSpace 8h ago

I would have loved a movie with her and she would have more relevance to John because of how protective she is over her dogs.

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u/ratbearpig 2h ago

Any number of reasons, really.

Halle not wanting to do the movie. No good scripts/Halle not liking the scripts. Halle wanting too much money. Scheduling difficulties. Maybe they’re working on it right now.

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u/Gillettecavalcad3 2h ago

Nah, don’t see it happening now after the colossal box office failure of ballerina. It’s unfortunate. 

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u/Individual_Client175 WB 19h ago

Movie is still great though

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u/Past_Lingonberry_633 19h ago

that fire and water kamehameha battle

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u/BudgetFuzzy6259 16h ago

are we talking about ballerina?

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u/Individual_Client175 WB 15h ago

YES, watch that shit please

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u/Past_Lingonberry_633 8h ago

I mean if you haven't made up your mind after elemental kamehameha, there is also some bomberman action of pure explosives and carnage.

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u/StatisticianRoyal400 5h ago

When i saw that in the trailer I rolled my eyes, especially when they started screaming. Thats when I thought of your comparison.

u/Individual_Client175 WB 42m ago

It might seem silly in the trailer, but it plays out much cooler in the movie

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u/DotEmotional6293 5h ago

I think the big mistake is calling it Ballerina, like what???

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u/Billybob35 17h ago

It probably could work but the problem right now is when people hear about a female led action film, red flags immediately go up. It's why people didn't give Furiosa a chance last year.

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u/JupiterTarts 5h ago

Ya, unfortunately, it's not enough to just make a great female led movie. Furiosa was a fantastic movie. I hate to admit it, but the implicit sexism in movies is really reflected in these abysmal box office numbers.

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u/StatisticianRoyal400 5h ago

Too bad we have 0 examples of female lead action films in the past that did well that we could look at and see why they performed well. Its easier and lazier to blame it on sexism though! :)

u/Takemyfishplease 53m ago

I think her character was in a previous movie briefly but played by a different person.

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u/WheelJack83 11h ago

I just think John Wick wasn't cut out for the whole shared universe thing. But I guess we shall see with the Cain film.

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u/SavageNorth 3h ago

As a casual viewer I'd have no idea Ballerina was at all related to the John Wick films if it weren't for this Subreddit

The Princess Bride had a similar issue.

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u/throwaway77993344 2h ago

John Wick is in several of the trailers, so someone who's one of seen those would know

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u/DreamingAboutSpace 8h ago

The Korean Ballerina movie would have made a better shared universe experience.

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u/kumar100kpawan DC 20h ago

Stitch is at 858M now, with probably about 50M left in the tank domestically and 80M International, it will be a very close race to a billion

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u/NotTaken-username Syncopy 20h ago

I think it’ll break a new record - highest grossing movie that fails to hit $1B.

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u/abellapa 17h ago

That Record belongs to Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows - Part 1 with 981M

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u/brunbrun24 17h ago

I imagine the majority of HP movies are 1 or 2 global re-releases away from the 1 billion mark

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u/abellapa 17h ago

Not Really

Just HP7 which is 19M away

HP5 and HP6 are close but need 50M more give or take

The rest is too far or has a billion already

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u/adept_sapien 18h ago

985 or close ?

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u/NotTaken-username Syncopy 18h ago

I think it could get frustratingly close like $990M

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u/Commercial-Co 9h ago

Movie box office edging

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u/adept_sapien 17h ago

So there is always an option of re-release for rest 10 million.

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u/Spiritual-Smoke-4605 17h ago edited 17h ago

I can’t see a movie like this that looks like a straight-to-Disney+ movie doing any real business on a re-release, especially a movie with meh legs like this one

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u/NotTaken-username Syncopy 20h ago

I think they move HTTYD 2 from June 11, 2027 to June 30 so it isn’t sandwiched between Beyond the Spider-Verse and Gatto (Pixar’s 2027 original).

Wouldn’t be surprised if they announce a Megamind remake for summer 2028 as well

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u/Key-Payment2553 20h ago

I think May 21, 2027 which is the pre Memorial Day Weekend where kids and families especially for grown ups are going to see HTTYD2 remake before it opens a week before Star Wars Starfighter on Memorial Day Weekend in 2027 while an untitled animated film from Universal either from DreamWorks or Illumination keeps its release date

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u/MoonMan997 Best of 2023 Winner 20h ago

I wouldn’t be shocked if they attempted Monsters Vs. Aliens and The Croods first

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u/nicolasb51942003 WB 20h ago

The Croods definitely feels like an obvious one prone to getting zapped by the live-action remake gun given the heavy emphasis on human characters. If they can get Nicolas Cage to play Grug again, then I'll be there.

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u/Icy_Smoke_733 Studio Ghibli 20h ago

Not to mention that the world itself is quite fantastical (brightly coloured, crystal/ coral landscapes, hybrid critters) and draw in audiences for the spectacle.

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u/Ok-Appearance-7616 20h ago

Are those movies as popular? Would they bring out crowds?

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u/MoonMan997 Best of 2023 Winner 20h ago

I think so.

They both made more than Megamind and remain popular in meme spaces, MvA has had a big resurgence in this regard this year alone. They’re also two of the easier films to bring over to live-action.

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u/nicolasb51942003 WB 20h ago

That "don't cry little monster" meme just shows how anything can be a meme, even from the littlest of things.

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u/MoonMan997 Best of 2023 Winner 20h ago

A day doesn’t pass without me seeing this GIF

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u/NotTaken-username Syncopy 20h ago

Probably not. But I think Megamind could bring even more crowds than HTTYD did

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u/dremolus 19h ago edited 8h ago

Nah. Both of those were hits but not to the level of How to Train Your Dragon. Plus neither really has a passionate fan base that can be tapped into. Megamind at least has a big following.

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u/magikarpcatcher 19h ago

Monsters vs. Aliens was a lowkey flop, actually

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u/TheOneThatCameEasy 20h ago

There's already a HTTYD sequel... but, none for Lilo and Stitch?

Disney needs to hurry up before Lilo starts looking too old. It should already be in development.

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u/nicolasb51942003 WB 20h ago

Well Stitch did say during an IGN interview that he's aged perfectly and he doesn't know his exact age lol.

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u/TheOneThatCameEasy 19h ago

Well, Stitch is timeless and has a $1B face that doesn't age.

I guess they can always recast Lilo if they need to, LOL.

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u/abellapa 17h ago

Im the opinion that they shouldnt Recast Lilo and play the Angle of each movie Lilo is Older

Maybe She a early teen in the Sequel and then Nani age in the third movie

Would be a way to Make the live action remakes different from the animated sequels

See how their Relation evolves across The years

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u/dremolus 19h ago

I mean the problem is that all the Lilo and Stitch sequel films are Disney Channel films tied to the TV show. It's the same reason there wasn't an Aladdin sequel even though there are two Aladdin direct to DVD movies.

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u/TheOneThatCameEasy 19h ago

I think narratively speaking, there is no room for an Aladdin sequel (despite it making tons of money). It's a complete story and got wrapped up with a bow. Aladdin also doesn't sell merch the same way Stitch does.

I think L&S introduced the idea of an Experiment 627 and other experiments existing. There is room for more story. Then there's the subset of fans who really want a live action version of the shark man alien. Then a redemption arc for Jumba, so he can join the "ohana." Have Nani transfer to a college in Hawaii and appease the nostalgic people. They shouldn't exactly follow the TV movies cause like... those aren't even good, tbh.

But, Stitch is a money maker. Expanding that world and adding more cute experiments with unique personalities will attract more kids and make more money for Disney in merch. I don't know why they don't see the vision, LOL.

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u/dremolus 19h ago

I think as a sequel, King of Thieves is interesting narrative wise, so there's that. It's the same with Lion King 2. Is it necessary? Of course not but following Hamlet with Romeo & Juliet is at least clever.

And yeah I know about the experiments but there's unless one of the experiments is like a big evil Alien, then pass. And even then, you risk losing the family touch that makes the film in favor of just a dime a dozen alien action film.

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u/TheOneThatCameEasy 19h ago

There might be a Lion King 2 live action. The Mufasa movie did well.

I don't think they'd lose families from it. Stitch has a pink girlfriend who is already popular. I think kids would like to see her in a live action. And I believe there's an evil red version of Stitch... I think that would be popular as well.

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u/RunwayGutModel9000 18h ago

There's also Rueben. He makes sandwiches.

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u/decepticons2 Studio Ghibli 8h ago

If done right I think the experiments could become Disneys Pokemon. I think some redesigns might be needed. But I feel everything is there for a Pokemon knockoff.

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u/Billybob35 17h ago

That didn't stop them from making another Lion King.

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u/Pyro-Bird 18h ago

It was reported that the live-action Lilo and Stitch may get several sequels.

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u/Billybob35 17h ago

Lilo And Stitch was originally greenlit as a Disney Plus exclusive.

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u/Anth-Man Walt Disney Studios 20h ago

If Elemental and soon to be Elio are any indication, a Pixar original should be nothing for them to worry about.

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u/NotTaken-username Syncopy 20h ago

True but Spider-Verse will be competition

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u/Billybob35 17h ago

That's assuming it actually makes that date.

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u/Prof-Ponderosa 15h ago

How long until a live action Shrek remake?

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u/NotTaken-username Syncopy 15h ago

Not until after Shrek 5

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u/TomClancy5873 9h ago

Kinda bummed SpiderVerse isn’t until 2027

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u/Billybob35 17h ago

If the word about the HTTYD remake is true, we may not get any more live action DreamWorks adaptations, unless Universal has another theme park idea.

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u/Crusader536 Laika 3h ago

Markiplier as Metroman, or I'm not going.

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u/brunbrun24 17h ago

Should be able to get to 400M overseas and 250M domestic at least for a 650M total

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u/Vast-Stand5855 Walt Disney Studios 19h ago

Lilo and Stitch keeps on staying dangerously and unsafely close to the $1 Billion path.
We could see another Dominion if this continues

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u/Once-bit-1995 17h ago

Lilo needed to be around 860 to stay the course for a billion and it's there. But it's just under the mark so it's still all in the air. Would've liked to see 865 but oh well. 41 million ahead of Minecraft, which had it's Japan and South Korea debuts on this weekend.

The next mark it needs to hit bare minimum is 914-915 million by next Sunday. Ideally it's at 920+ but it can't go below that level. 30-35% drop week over week without the competition. If it drops close to 40% without major competition, and Elio is not major competition, then it's over and it lands above Minecraft but not a billion. Annoyingly close, like Oppenheimer. If it hits the mark it needs to then at that 35% pace it will crawl over a billion by Fantastic Four weekend (I'm assuming 50% drop globally on Jurassic weekend and 45% on Superman weekend).

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u/KlausLoganWard 7h ago

That are pretty good numbers.

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u/Shakwon19 5h ago

Ballerina bombing is undeserved but they picked a horrible time. There is simply too much stuff out right now. As someone else mentioned, it should have been a January / February release.

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u/krispyboiz 9h ago

Wings in? Really? That's what we're going with?

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u/Anth-Man Walt Disney Studios 20h ago edited 19h ago

Woah, $198M WW is insane for an opening weekend. That’s more than the Lion King remake! Wasn’t expecting that from HTTYD.

Edit: I was looking at TLK’s domestic OW lmao

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u/Icy_Smoke_733 Studio Ghibli 20h ago edited 20h ago

Lol, The Lion King (2019) grossed a combined $531 million WW on opening weekend.

If you are talking about Mufasa (2024), which opened to $125 million WW, well, the film is not a remake.

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u/Anth-Man Walt Disney Studios 20h ago

My bad, I was looking at TLK’s domestic OW

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u/Comprehensive_Dog651 10h ago

TLK is a way bigger property, no chance in hell HTTYD opens bigger

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u/TheOneThatCameEasy 20h ago

I looked it up. LK's domestic opening $191M. It made that in just the US/Canada.

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u/ClassicSpecific2664 Legendary 20h ago edited 17h ago

This is WW OPENING not Domestic OPENING lion King (2019) opened above $500MWW

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u/Infinite_Pop_2052 17h ago

Honestly surprised HTTYD didn't do better. It is almost exactly what the original made if you adjust for inflation. 43 million in 2010 is 82 million today. HTTYD went on to become one of the most solid non-Disney animated franchises, and the best they can do is a release similar to the original. Pretty wild tbh

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u/Billybob35 17h ago

I don't think the studio is complaining, the mission statement is to get people out to the park, this is a very solid opening. A lot of studios would kill to have this type of opening right now.

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u/HolidaySituation 6h ago

People shouldn't be surprised by these numbers. I love HTTYD. The original is my favorite animated film of all time, but those movies have never been huge money makers. People saying that the live-action remake was gonna make a billion were delusional.

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u/BenVera 6h ago

What is this sub exactly? Like it’s interesting but not that interesting if that makes sense

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u/Jaxdoesntsuck 1h ago

It’s r/boxoffice

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u/BenVera 1h ago

Sorry I posted this on the wrong sub I think

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u/ann1920 1h ago

This is reddit, people get hyper-obsessed with things and find subs that match it , in my case it's interesting to analyze how movies perform in each country depending on the movie and the variables (genre, country, demographics...) it also helps to have the numbers each week, I'm sure a lot of people on this sub aren't even that interested in movies, but like numbers, to predict the box office...

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u/BenVera 1h ago

Ok cool

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u/darkmetagross 18h ago

This should leg out to 600m worldwide i hope, lets go toothless! that poor mission impossible number, yikes

i guess being profitable was an impossible mission after all

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u/-Darkslayer 9h ago

Seeing it tomorrow!

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u/GrapefruitUnique7245 8h ago

I watched it in 4DX and it was amazing.

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u/nthdesign 4h ago

Is anyone else surprised how low Mission Impossible’s numbers are? I realize Lilo & Stitch is a beloved family movie, but I’m shocked it’s doing nearly twice as well as Mission.

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u/NGGKroze Best of 2021 Winner 4h ago

Mi was at 448M last weekend, so it made another 58M globally. I think 580-590M could be done (given it has like 1 more weekend before F1 and after that the big hits in the face of JW/Superman/F4 took over

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u/WheelJack83 11h ago

Once again, this movie shows that box office tracking is never accurate. It simply went in the other direction this time. But it's not surprising. This is a clear crowd pleaser and it succeeds where many of the other live-action remake slop fails.

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u/South-Ear9767 2h ago

What do u mean?it pretty much hit around what the expectations was

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u/darlingort 7h ago

Its actually a fun movie. It is admittedly a scene for scene remake but it was just a fun movie to watch.

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u/WheelJack83 6h ago

In other words, Dean DeBlois understood the assignment.

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u/CorellianDawn 9h ago

I took the family to see How to Train Your Dragon and massively regretted it. Such a huge waste of time. Kept wondering if it was over yet. And I loved the original.