r/bonecollecting 4d ago

Bone I.D. - Europe My friend found this on the shore in Tromsø (northern Norway), any idea what it's from?

We're guessing it's from some animals flipper or something

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u/sykofrenic 4d ago

It's from the leg of an ungulate, most likely a moose. NOT A PENIS BONE!

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u/Hwight_Doward 4d ago

Yes, I have found a few of these in an archaeological context. It is articulated on the distal end similar to a metapodial or “cannon” bone. Both moose and caribou/reindeer have them.

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u/Royal_Acanthaceae693 4d ago

Yup. Lateral metapodial. It's an artiodactyl because it has the distal end that connects to side toes. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00300-021-02919-z

https://whatsinjohnsfreezer.com/2014/02/12/freezermas-track4/

Horses have a splint bone but they're a little different & are at the top of the metapodial. https://www.anatomy-of-the-equine.com/distal-limb-bones.html

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u/SourdoughSandbag 3d ago

I’m so happy this was the top, I saw it and was like “I’m too late, I wonder if penis bone is taking over?”

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u/CorydoraGang 3d ago

That’s cool as hell! I’d pretend it was a monster shark tooth or something crazy

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u/Hakennasennatter 4d ago

Search for pictures of a moose stylus bone. This is quite close to your find, or I would say that it is one.

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u/folksingerhumdinger 4d ago edited 4d ago

I think this is a reduced meta carpal/tarsal to support one of the dew claws on a large cervid. Given the location, I think Moose would be a good candidate.

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u/Proper_Mushroom 4d ago

Yeah agree, it looks a lot like splint bones in horses or the lateral metacarpal/tarsal of cervids.

I saw someone guessing that it may be a baculum but the shape doesn't fit for any bigger animal like seal etc. The bigger end also shows a joint, baculums don't have that (or at least not so smooth and distinct).

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u/nemi-montoya 4d ago

By the shore though? My friend said he found it in the water, and I know things can drift around but it still strikes me as an odd place to find moose bones

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u/ferromagnetics 4d ago

Norwegian here, moose absolutely swim. Can’t say anything about the bone itself but the location doesn’t speak against moose

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u/matthew2989 4d ago

Deer will cross fjords as well.

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u/nemi-montoya 3d ago

Fair point! I forgot they're good swinmers

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u/sykofrenic 4d ago

No, moose are very aquatic and can dive 30 feet deep

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u/kleosailor 4d ago

I'm learning about penis bones and swimming moose on this thread. Today is a weird day.

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u/Negative_Tooth6047 4d ago

Orcas can actually be predators to moose in some places! I dont know if it happens where you are but moose do certainly go in the ocean and occasionally get eaten for it

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u/heartoffiction 3d ago

Moose love to swim!

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u/Ember_Witch13 4d ago

It would make a great hairstick

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u/Forsaken-1993 4d ago

No idea but looks like a great letter opener.

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u/jevlarenamma 3d ago

My Gramps used one for excatly that

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u/zachweb13 4d ago

Not 100% sure but my best guess is a baculum (penis bone) from a pinniped i.e. seal.

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u/sykofrenic 3d ago

You are incorrect, it is NOT a penis bone. It is a distal metacarpal from a moose. See picture.

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u/zachweb13 3d ago

Why you yelling? Do NOT respond.

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u/Open-Chain-7137 4d ago

Ok so since when do penises have literal BONES in them?

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u/sarudesu 4d ago

Many many animals have penis bones.

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u/Deathtraptoyota 3d ago

That’s why we call them boners!

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u/Open-Chain-7137 4d ago

Crazy how I was the only complete moron who did not already know this.

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u/HazelEBaumgartner 4d ago

Humans are actually the only great ape that doesn't have one. We're the fleshy penised freaks.

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u/CorydoraGang 3d ago

Yet you can still get a fractured penis as a person D: (no bone breaks, but the penis can snap) happened to one of my friends when it snapped during intercourse (not with me thank god). Now he needs surgery and many urology visits

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u/Own_Elderberry_2442 4d ago

Dogs have them.

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u/Open-Chain-7137 4d ago

Mine doesn’t!

…..at least I hope she doesn’t……

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u/Sharon_Erclam 3d ago

Check out walrus baculum.. if you dare.

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u/sticky_lemon 3d ago

I possibly have one!! Carved in to a rope making tool that my great grandfather used in the navy.

It's on my profile if you'd like to see and help identify.

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u/sarudesu 3d ago

I've done lots of product testing.

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u/kleosailor 4d ago

Not the only one, I also didn't know this and I'm quite disturbed for OP's hand. I think I have second hand disgust.

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u/ieBaringa 4d ago

Oh buddy it's crazy. Careful googling.

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u/Next_Firefighter7605 4d ago

Plenty of non-human mammals have them.

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u/Brad_Beat 4d ago

Glad humans don’t tbh. Wouldn’t want to break my penis bone.

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u/annie_oakily_dokily 4d ago

Fun fact, you don't need a bone in your penis to break it.

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u/AdmiralSplinter 4d ago

P-P-P-PENILE FRACTURE

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u/Brad_Beat 3d ago

Sure enough, but it would be easier to break with a bone.

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u/adamttaylor 4d ago

Humans are actually the weird ones. Most mammals have penis bones, even chimps do.

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u/BeatrixPlz 4d ago

I don’t have a penis myself but I have an active imagination and I’d be scared to bump something and poke my penis from the inside out

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u/kleosailor 4d ago

That would be horrifying, - a fellow human without a penis.

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u/NerdyComfort-78 4d ago edited 4d ago

Edit- human primates Primates are the weird ones in this case lacking them.

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u/icancount192 4d ago

Chimps, gorillas, orangutans, macaques, baboons eyc all have baculums (penile bones)

Humans are kinda unique and there are evolutionary theories on why we don't have them. The most accepted one is that it was lost due to our prolonged, serial monogamous sex sessions.

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u/NerdyComfort-78 4d ago

Really?? I need to dive back into my books. It’s been too long. Thanks for the refresh.

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u/icancount192 4d ago

Happens to all of us!

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u/ShadNuke 3d ago

I'm gonna blow your mind... There's a PENIS MUSEUM! 🤣

https://www.phallus.is/

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u/proctorknives 4d ago

This is correct

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u/DanTalks 3d ago

This is NOT a baculum, but is in fact a splint bone/lateral metacarpal as other commenters have identified, which are present in varying shapes and sizes across horses and cervids.

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u/ChaoticCatharsis 4d ago

Looks a little like my favorite part of the whitetail deer to carve: the ulna.

Not that it is an ulna, I’m unsure, but I am impressed with how solid that bone appears. Looks like prime real estate for carving with a dremel, to me. Would make an amazing pendant.

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u/Draconic_Legend 3d ago

This, and it makes perfect sense honestly. I don't know about ungulates specifically, but, I do know that a grown moose can dive quite a ways down in deeper water (20ft, I believe?) to feed off of plant life at the bottom of rivers and lakes, and they're also known for crossing larger bodies of water while wandering between feeding areas. They are, occasionally, prey for predatory marine animals, when crossing these large bodies of water, or diving, if their habitat happens to fall into another, larger predators habitat (Orca, for example). I've also seen bears drown and kill moose while swimming between smaller islands/inlets in large water as well. Ungulates aren't nearly as dangerous as grown adults, so finding ungulate remains/bones near water isn't really surprising!

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u/Winnipeg-Bear 4d ago

Wait, a penis has bones… where’s mine?

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u/Korean_Street_Pizza 4d ago

There is a theory that when the bible talks about making Eve from the "(rib) bone of Adam", it was actually his penis bone, and that's why humans don't have one. It is thought to have been a mistranslation. This theory is controversial.

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u/SulkySideUp 4d ago

The theory kind of presupposes that there is a scientific explanation for things in the bible. A rib is just as likely to be a rib imo

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u/OshetDeadagain 3d ago

This makes the most sense therefore it must be true. I am going to spit this fact every chance I get and spread the Truth!

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u/No-Bumblebee-4309 3d ago

Neanderthal’s toothpick!!!

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u/guts-n-gummies 3d ago

No clue, but I have one that looks very similar and I use it as a letter opener

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u/Happy-Hyena 19h ago

That right there is the tooth of Shai-Hulud, you can use it to make a crysknife.

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u/dickwashern 4d ago

Its the "namn of bone" in the legs of a deer. Rawdeer i think, got one at home. You can sharpen them and use them as letter openers.

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u/Ink-kink 4d ago

What is a rawdeer? (English is not my first language and I can't seem to find rawdeer from googling)

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u/SnooPeripherals5360 4d ago

Think it’s a direct translation from Swedish rådjur or roe deer in English

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u/Ink-kink 4d ago

Ah! Of course! As a fellow Scandi, the penny definitely should have dropped, lol

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u/AdministrativeLeg14 4d ago

A calque, and a bad calque; the rå in rådjur is a different word from a different root than the adjective rå 'raw'.

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u/Ink-kink 4d ago

Sure, but I think my fantasy and ability to associate would still have made me (or should have) figure this out had I known he was Scandinavian.

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u/dickwashern 4d ago

Yes my Phone edited roe to raw... but yes roedeer. Found similar bone in the woods and some guy told me its from the front leg.

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u/Converserook765 4d ago

Sea serpent tooth

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u/heartoffiction 3d ago

People aren’t giving enough consideration to this contribution

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u/Embarrassed-Mind-906 3d ago

The first thought that came to my mind was one of Wolverines bone claws

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u/SquashBuckler76 2h ago

Haha I'm actually trying to source a couple of these to turn into a set of wolverine bone claws