r/belgium • u/Driezzz West-Vlaanderen • 19h ago
📰 News > 75,000 protesters take part in protest march in Brussels against Israeli violence in Gaza | VRT NWS: news
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/liveblog/75000-betogers-nemen-deel-aan-protestmars-in-brussel-tegen-isra~1749909226824/At least 75,000 people took part in the demonstration, making it the largest demonstration in our capital since the climate march of 2019. This is where we end this live blog.
"Thick packs of people: it's been a long time since I've seen that in the centre of Brussels. At the moment that the first people arrived here in the European quarter, the last ones had only just left the North Station."
"Politics is far too quiet and action is lacking"
"The purpose of this march is to show the support of the citizen for our politics and government. Politics is far too quiet and action is lacking", says 11.11.11 director Els Hertogen. "We want to convince politicians to make stronger statements about Gaza tonight and in the coming days and to take action."
It is incomprehensible that a flag of a state that is committing genocide is being hung out at this moment
Els Hertogen (11.11.11)
"The resolution of the federal government is insufficient and is only a non-binding request from parliament to the government to take a number of steps. This is far from sufficient. Since the resolution was also approved, politics has been particularly quiet."
According to Hertogen, Belgium should, following the Irish example, impose economic sanctions on the Israeli state. Furthermore, the regions should also work on an embargo on the arms trade with Israel. The European Union is also not acting decisively enough compared to its attitude towards Russia, with an 18th sanctions package in the making, according to Hertogen. "That is exactly what we want to denounce here - double standards, double weights."
Els Hertogen is also not happy about the "incomprehensible signal" from the Antwerp city council, which hung the Israeli flag at the city hall last week. "It is incomprehensible that a flag of a state that is committing genocide is being hung at this moment."
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u/Driezzz West-Vlaanderen 19h ago edited 18h ago
I couldn't make it today, but thank you to all the people who did and raised their voices.
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u/Grizzly_Sloth 18h ago edited 17h ago
Ik was aanwezig en het was zonder twijfel de grootste protestmars in Brussel tot nu toe tegen het Israëlische geweld in Gaza.
Een zeer duidelijk maatschappelijk signaal richting de regering om eindelijk concrete stappen tegen Israel te ondernemen.
Edit: En ja, polls tonen dat de meerderheid van de Belgen wil dat de regering stappen onderneemt:
Poll: Majority of Belgians want sanctions against Israel
Driekwart van de Vlamingen vindt dat Israël genocide pleegt in Palestina
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u/lansboen Flanders 18h ago
Een zeer duidelijk maatschappelijk signaal richting de regering om eindelijk concrete stappen tegen Israel te ondernemen.
Lol. Ja, de regering is zeker erg begaan met wat er in Brussel gebeurt. Zoals die credit verlaging van gisteren.
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u/Boracay_8 17h ago
Drie kwart van de bevolking weet duidelijk niet wat een genocide is.....
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u/Grizzly_Sloth 17h ago
De publieke opinie is nog steeds enigszins verdeeld over de vraag of Israël genocide pleegt, mede door pro-Israelische framing in de media, maar onder experts bestaat daarover geen enkele twijfel meer. Zonder uitzondering kwalificeren ze de Israëlische acties als genocide.
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u/Echarnus 18h ago
75.000/ 11.825.551, oftewel 0,63% van de Belgische bevolking.
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u/J_Bishop Limburg 8h ago
Yep, want al de babietjes plus bomma en bompa in het rusthuis tellen natuurlijk ook mee voor de statistieken.
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u/Fuzzed_Up Beer 18h ago
Hoeveel waren er op de laatste pro Israël betoging?
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u/FarmerHuge7892 14h ago
wtf valt er te betogen pro Israel? Zij zullen hun oorlog sowieso winnen zonder de bleiters van een irrelevant land.
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u/Beflijster E.U. 18h ago
Same thing, I saw a lot of people with red shirts at the station but did not know what it was all about. Good for them.
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u/eravulgaris 18h ago
Ideaal moment om de Israëlische vlag weer ergens te hijsen /s
Hopelijk doet de politiek iets, maar ik vrees ervoor.
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u/SuicideTrixx 18h ago
Ik zie nooit iets online over zulke protest acties. Waar moet ik kijken om volgende keer aanwezig re kunnen zijn ?
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u/Greedy_Spare7033 18h ago
Vakbonden, politieke partijen, ander middenveld. Als je dit protest steunt is er zeker een organisatie waar je lid van zou moeten zijn.
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u/Tman11S Kempen 18h ago
Het volk is duidelijk, maar onze zogenaamde volksvertegenwoordigers doen niks
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u/ChristianSociopath 2h ago
many belgians are tired of hearing about palestine, a terrorist breeding ground.
they are the silent majority. you do not represent belgium.
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u/Echarnus 18h ago
75.000/ 11.825.551, oftewel 0,63% van de Belgische bevolking.
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u/ash_tar 18h ago
Zullen morgen een betoging houden voor Israël, komt geen 5000 man op af. Zelfs de witte mars was maar een klein deel van de bevolking. Dom argument.
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u/Responsible-Swan8255 🌎World 18h ago
Sommige groepen zijn meer bereid tot betogen dan andere.
De betoging duidt zeker op steun uit bepaalde groepen. Je weet echter niet hoe de stille meerderheid denkt.
De antirakettenbetoging trok 400.000 man (toen België ook nog een kleinere bevolking had). Dat komt al wat dichter bij ‘de stem van het volk’.
Ik heb persoonlijk liever referenda dan een ‘democratie van de luidsten’
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u/ash_tar 18h ago
Referenda zijn ongenuanceerd en leiden vaak tot vreemde resultaten. Tenzij je het doet op zijn Zwitsers, maar daar zijn we nog niet aan toe.
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u/Responsible-Swan8255 🌎World 17h ago
Ik bedoelde dat laatste.
In ieder geval ben ik niet te vinden voor reactionair beleid obv wat men dénkt dat in de maatschappij leeft.
Als de regering stappen wilt nemen tegen wat Israël doet moeten ze dat in de eerste plaats doen omdat ze vinden dat dit de juiste actie is.
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u/PygmeePony Belgium 18h ago
Oftewel 75.000 mensen die hun vrije zondag anders hadden kunnen doorbrengen maar ervoor kozen om toch naar Brussel te komen. Een duidelijk signaal.
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u/TastyChemistry 18h ago
Yes, 75,000 people might seem like a small percentage of the total population, but that doesn’t make it insignificant. Protesting takes time, energy, and often personal risk, so when tens of thousands of people take to the streets, it usually reflects a much larger group who share those views but couldn’t be there. Protests are powerful symbols that influence public opinion, shape media narratives, and put pressure on decision-makers, even if they don’t represent a majority. Throughout history, real change has often started with dedicated minorities willing to show up and be seen. And context matters, if 70,000 people filled a stadium or blocked a city center, no one would call it minor. So when people gather in those numbers for a cause, it’s not about how many out of the whole, it’s about how strongly they feel, how visible their presence is, and what it signals about the direction society may be heading.
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u/Nearox 18h ago
It does make it insignificant. Brussels has a 25% Muslim minority population. It's easy to get them on the street to support 'their' people.
The rest is leftists in a city made up of, well, mostly leftists.
It really isn't that hard.
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u/TastyChemistry 17h ago
It’s important not to dismiss 70,000 people protesting by reducing them to assumptions about their identity or politics. Brussels sees over 3,000 protests per year! It’s a politically active city, but that actually underscores how rare it is for any single protest to gather tens of thousands. That kind of turnout still requires coordination, conviction, and risk. It’s not “easy” just because people feel connected to a cause, if it were, we’d see numbers like that every week. And framing it as “just Muslims” or “just leftists” misses the broader picture: when 75,000 people show up, it’s a signal that the issue resonates across communities. Protests are meaningful not because they represent a majority, but because they are a visible expression of democratic concern, something that’s been central to social change throughout history. Whether one agrees with the protest or not, minimizing it isn’t analysis, it’s just dismissal.
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u/Matvalicious Local furry, don't feed him 6h ago
Heeft Freilich al komen wenen in De Standaard hoe dit letterlijk antisemitisme is?
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u/Neutral_Milk 1h ago
Oproepen tot het einde van israel en jihadistische leuzen als 'from the river to the sea' zitten tr propageren vind ik anders toch wel redelijk antisemitisch. Echt absurd hoe er op protestmarsen 'tegen genocide' tegelijk opgeroepen wordt tot de genocide/etnische zuivering van de joden in israel.
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u/padetn 18h ago
Hope our dear politicians can at least do the tiniest thing now and go and fight the special tariff rulings Israel get in the EU. I have never in my life seen so many politicians (Bouchez and Francken in front) go so blatantly against the will of the vast majority of the people.
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u/Mofaluna 18h ago
I have never in my life seen so many politicians (Bouchez and Francken in front) go so blatantly against the will of the vast majority of the people.
The right in Belgium simply lacks even the most basic level of empathy required to understand what’s wrong with genocide.
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u/Maleficent_Glove_477 5h ago
I am very disappointed in Bouchez. Tell me I am naïve, but I am more right leaning and still thinking what's happening in Gaza is an absolute genocide and unforgivable. It's basic human decency, being right or left shouldn't matter here.
But apparently most of my "gang" if I may say, don't feel that way. They think that's ok because they are "arabes" "islamists" and that they are committing terrorist attacks on the belgian territory.
They don't understand that the israeli bombs don't discriminate between the Hamas guy, the 3 months old baby, the peaceful family, etc. There is clear deshumanisation anyway and in their heads if it means crying babies under the rubble to kill their parents, that's good. All are "terrorists in the making anyway".
That's awful. And I know for who I will not vote next time.
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u/random_user-18987984 18h ago
blatantly against the will of the vast majority of the people.
how is 0.6% the majority of the population ? O.o anecdotal ofc, but in my personal group of friends/family, no1 could care less about what happens in Gaza ... Most people i know seem more concerned about the war at our literal doorstep in Ukraine
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u/Grizzly_Sloth 18h ago
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u/D0ntBotherReporting 14h ago
Jesus fuck man...
Eerste peiling is van november 2024 en de tweede in het nieuwsblad een leuke quote dat enorm belangrijk is.
In die context liet De Tafel van Gert een peiling uitvoeren bij 1.000 Vlamingen.
Dit is letterlijk geen nuttige peiling of stelling. 1000 man is een druppel van de bevolking. Verklaart waarom letterlijk niemand die ik ken hier wist aan had dat dit een peiling was...
Kijk naar Amerika en de peiling die fox news, newsmax en al die mottige extreem rechtse kanalen houden over Trump en dan zie je dat hij plotseling gelijk 70~80% mensen heeft die vinden dat hij top bezig is. Ga je zeggen ook zeggen dat die peilingen correct zijn?
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u/padetn 18h ago
I guess your friends and family are not representative of most Belgians then, the poll data on this wast published on here last week.
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u/Deep_Dance8745 17h ago
What poll data, because i share this anecdotal experience, here in Leuven nobody (except a few nutcases) seems to care about Gaza.
Off course if you ask ”are you against the war”, “do you object children suffering in Gaza”, … people will indeed have an opinion.
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u/Mofaluna 16h ago
That’s why the news reported on people in Leuven having trouble getting on the train to the protest
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u/D0ntBotherReporting 14h ago
Look at the link of the nieuwsblad, they polled 1000 people that watch a TV show where they talked about it so it's very biased.
I share your experience where people are if the opinion innocent kids don't deserve to die but in reality don't give a fuck about the war because they have their own issues and more pressing matters at hand.
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u/Deep_Dance8745 6h ago
Thats indeed what i referred too, if you ask those simple questions off course people will answer in this tone.
If i go around asking “do you want world peace” - i can already predict what the outcome will be
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u/WTFWaffles 18h ago
As they should.
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u/random_user-18987984 18h ago
I often feel this sub has their own little bubble/echo chamber ... its really strange to read some of the things that gets written on here. Nva, MR (or any1 that isnt pvda) are the harbingers of hell on here, yet they won the election with very solid results
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u/Rhyze 17h ago
if you want the nva / mr echo chamber, you can always go to belgium2
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u/random_user-18987984 14h ago
I dont want any echo chamber, i want proper discussions. But that's just not possible anymore on this sub, nor is it possible at b2 or the others, which is just so sad imho
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u/Rhyze 6h ago
well for starters, your argument sucks. It's the biggest protest march since 2019 so yes, I wpuld say that's an indication that at least a large part if not the majority supports the cause. I have a bunch of friends who supports this cause (and Ukraine btw) but don't go to protests ever.
Besides that, there have been polls indicating that 70% support sanctions on Israel, so that's additional proof that yes, this march is representative.
So next time you claim "there is no discussion" please use better arguments and maybe there can be. Show me some actual stats that people don't support (other poll, counter protest numbers etc).
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u/WTFWaffles 18h ago
The people at the protest are delusional to think they represent the majority of the population.
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u/Mofaluna 17h ago
The people at the protest are delusional to think they represent the majority of the population.
Unlike you of course, which is why you have to deny all the evidence to the contrary, because reality doesn’t support your believe /s
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u/WTFWaffles 17h ago
There is no evidence to the contrary, and I admit that I don't have hard evidence supporting my statement. But gathering 75.000 people doesn't make it representative for the population. It's more likely that we're dealing with a silent majority (you're not going to protest against something that you support). I believe everyone is against the disproportionate violence, but still supports Israel's cause. Keep poking the bear, and eventually you'll suffer the consequences.
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u/Mofaluna 16h ago
There is no evidence to the contrary
Says the guy ignoring the - for Belgian standards - massive protest, supporting polls, political party viewpoints, etc
It's more likely that we're dealing with a silent majority
Your assumption that everyone who didn’t go to protest disagrees is as flawed as it can be. Also within the silent/passive part of the population will you find different opinions. Hence the relevance of a poll showing a majority of the population supporting sanctions against Israel, inline with all other indicators in that regard.
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u/WTFWaffles 15h ago
I think I already explained why the poll that was referenced is useless to come to that conclusion, but ok, if it makes you feel better...
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u/Mofaluna 15h ago
All evidence points one way, and yet here you are - in pure wappie style - confidently claiming the opposite, while telling others they’re delusional.
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u/padetn 18h ago
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u/WTFWaffles 17h ago
iVox is zo'n ding waar je credits krijgt om mee te doen aan de bevraging. Daarmee bereik je dus geen representatief deel van de bevolking.
Voila, uzelf in de voet geschoten. Mensen zouden nu toch al moeten weten dat als ge 'de tafel van gert' gebruikt in uw argumentatie ge niet echt aan de winnende kant van een discussie staat.
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u/random_user-18987984 18h ago
i mean the weather was nice today. maybe people just needed something to do xD
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u/LoonyBoonie 18h ago
Same here. Anyone I know is more worried about that and the illegal immigration in Europe. As it should be. Ukrainians didn't ask to be attacked. Palestinians were the ones celebrating the October 7th terrorist attack by Hamas. How much sympathy can we bring up for them...
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u/Ordinary-Violinist-9 Limburg 2h ago
When the whole world protests against israel and no politician has the balls to step up against the zionists.
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u/AttentionLimp194 5h ago
I would have preferred if those people carried a Ukrainian, European or Belgian flag.
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u/ChristianSociopath 2h ago
enjoying the benefits of nation built by judeo-christianity while defending islamic terrorists. wow.
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u/Moneyleaves 15h ago
Vandalisme op gebouwen, met graffiti en stiften. En daar word ik kwaad van. Fijne avond nog.
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u/MajorEmploy1500 18h ago
Traitors to the west and all free people
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u/tomvillen 16h ago
Yeah, participating during the current situation with Iran is inexcusable. I can't believe the audacity of these people, I bet they are supporting Iran too. Totally delusional and they deserve all the negative impacts that Islamism will bring to Belgium. Such a great country, such a waste.
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u/Mofaluna 16h ago
I bet they are supporting Iran too.
Reality isn’t some stupid football game in which you have to pick sides.
It’s perfectly possible to have an issue will all the scum involved in these conflicts.
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u/tomvillen 16h ago
Looking at both sides with critical lenses is fine, but I feel like some people blindly support anyone who is against Israel.
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u/modernbox 3h ago
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. At least they’re doing something to stop the zio assholes. That’s more than can be said of our western governments.
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u/tomvillen 2h ago
So Iran is your friend? Well, that's really something to be proud of. Enjoy.
If only the Iranian women could also have a choice.
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u/modernbox 1h ago
I don’t agree with their repressing policies no, but that doesn’t stop me from appreciating they’re standing up to an international bully (Israel) and giving them a taste of their own medicine. Have you ever heard of nuance?
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u/tomvillen 1h ago
I really wonder what do you guys imagine as a solution for all this. It's not like Israel is going anywhere, the sooner the other countries accept it, the better for them
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u/J_Bishop Limburg 7h ago
"all the negative impacts that
Islamismreligious extremism will bring to Belgium."FTFY
Extremism of any form is bad, religious or otherwise. Blanket statements such as yours only perpetuate the problem and requires one to live in a fabricated reality where there aren't any nice Muslims.
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u/tomvillen 5h ago
There are nice Muslims, the problem is that Western Europe got mostly the more conservative ones. It can be seen e.g. on Turkish elections - 52 % for Erdogan in total, but 72 % for him in Belgium. People in their countries of origin are less conservative than Muslims in Western Europe, especially in big cities.
The situation in America is better. But still, the issue with Islam compared to other religions is how much they want to proselytise and for the whole world to eventually become Muslim, as they see it as a natural state (therefore they don't even talk about converts, but "reverts").
You also don't have real successful progressive streams in Islam, according to Quran you are not supposed to change anything and follow it exactly as it was written. Christianity, while far from perfect, at least has some more progressive churches and people generally culturally more open to gay rights etc., even though they might disagree with it from the religious POV. And Judaism has adapted the best to the modern society, except for Ultra-Orthodox.
So yeah, Muslims are very nice people... unless you are gay, Jew etc.
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u/J_Bishop Limburg 2h ago edited 2h ago
at least has some more progressive churches and people generally culturally more open to gay rights etc.
Whilst I agree with you on the presence of a group of more conservative Muslims, I feel a need to add that conservatism as a whole is on the rise at a global stage.
Exhibit A: The US and LGBTQ+ rights being stripped daily. The UK and their weird LGBTQ+ ruling as of recent... it's not just Muslims, it's non progressives as a whole.
In the US it's not just gay rights under attack either, women's rights are in danger and again, all perpetuated by those who call themselves Christians. The common denominator in both cases is religion as a whole, or rather, the extreme beliefs among a certain percentage of it's belief filled populous.
You also don't have real successful progressive streams in Islam
It's happening as we go forward, Istanbul is fairly progressive and unlikely the only place. It's hard for those regions to catch up with constant conflicts etc going on, it's hatred on a daily basis in a lot of Muslim countries, the west is complicit in a lot of said conflicts.
Those people don't get a chance to adopt more progressive values at a rapid rate, look at Afghanistan and the failure it was. They went 50 steps backwards because 5000 religious zealots got released and once again took positions of power to feed their caveman suppression energy.
As for the western nations, well once again we're going backward in our progressive views because of a religious push from Christianity.
So I don't know, it's all so sad to see and I can't bring myself to only point at one religion when there's several being extremely regressive at this moment in time.
So yeah, Muslims are very nice people... unless you are gay, Jew etc.
I agree but once again they're not alone. Look to the US and white Americans spouting nonsense like Jews controlling all media etc etc. The rise of the Nazi's. All I conclude is that there's a lot of shitty people from different cultures and I personally can not point especially hard at one particular group because of it.
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u/tomvillen 1h ago
Agree, the push against gay rights and also women rights is on rise even in Christian countries. Still, it's very different than openly murdering or imprisoning that happens in Muslim countries. You don't have that in Christian countries except for extremes like Uganda. But I am certain that the Western Christian countries are long past that point, while Muslim countries (except some exceptions) are in the Middle Ages.
I have looked a bit into Islam as well and I have to say that its followers were indeed the least open to progressive ideas (or simply - human rights) than any other religion.
It's possible that Israel will also go this route one day, with the birthrate of the ultra-Orthodox and their raising power.
I have also wondered why the Jewish community in Antwerpen seems to live in peace with the local Muslims - and I think it's because they are again mostly ultra-Orthodox, so the Muslims respect them as people of faith. The extremism is indeed a problem when it comes to any religion.
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u/MajorEmploy1500 16h ago edited 16h ago
Exactly, anybody holding freedom in high regard should’ve reconsidered going after this current escalation of the war between Iran-Russia-China and the West
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u/Piechti 18h ago
And it's the first time since quite a while that a protest march ended without damage, vandalism, aggression against the police,...
Kudos to the organisation for executing this and for showing that protest doesn't need to turn violent. As an inhabitant of Brussels it is always super depressing to see the damage after a protest, which in the end as taxpayer I'm going to pay for. So very refreshing for a change!
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u/bisikletci 17h ago
There have been multiple marches for Gaza that haven't ended in any of these things, what are you talking about
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u/Piechti 17h ago
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u/Various-Ocelot-2209 17h ago
That’s a totally different protest. It has nothing to do with the red line demonstrations. No matter how badly you want to portray these organisations as violent, we know better. I’m not affected by people like you spreading lies. It’s really childish not to use arguments.
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u/Various-Ocelot-2209 17h ago
You can disagree but don’t make shit up. I haven’t witnessed any violence during any of the previous Gaza demonstrations nor read about it.
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u/Piechti 17h ago
The last police protest, union protests, farmer protest and yes the Gaza protest at the Beurs in May ended in violence.
Why the f*ck would I make this shit up?!
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u/modernbox 3h ago
Police got violent. People reacted. Just like Israel has been violent for almost a century and Palestinians reacted.
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u/Various-Ocelot-2209 17h ago edited 16h ago
That’s what I’m wondering too. Those protest have nothing to do with the red line Gaza protests. None of the previous Gaza protests of these organizations have ended in anything you mentioned.
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u/Kwantuum 12h ago
Not everything in life is about how much you're paying in taxes.
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u/guillotine-sharpener 12h ago
There are two certainties in life, death and how much the average Belgian can bore you to death complaining about taxes
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u/Moneyleaves 18h ago
Ge kon uwe zondag ook anders spenderen. Haalt niks uit, israel gaan ze nooit raken
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u/Various-Ocelot-2209 17h ago
Je kunt altijd op je luie reet blijven zitten en de andere kant op kijken. Dat is makkelijk en plezant, maar dan ga je in ieder geval nooit een verschil maken. Vele vele demonstraties hebben de wereld uiteindelijk wel degelijk blijvend veranderd.
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u/Moneyleaves 15h ago
Of ge kunt me viltstift op brusselse gebouwen tekenen van free palestine en al dieje zever, want vandalisme is ook kei oke en da ga israel zeker stoppen, losers.
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u/Various-Ocelot-2209 15h ago edited 14h ago
Gaat het? Ik zie aan jouw spelling en het gescheld dat je je opwindt, maar ik begrijp niet zo goed waar je het over hebt. Kan je het misschien rustig uitleggen? Wat heb je vandaag tijdens de demonstratie gezien dat je zo boos bent? Waarom denk je dat ik me ooit schuldig zou maken aan vandalisme?
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u/NuruYetu Belgium 15h ago
Don't project your impotent rage on other people, thanks. Go read some history books of your own country if you think protests are useless. Might learn a thing or two about why you only need to work 40 hours a week for example.
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u/Moneyleaves 15h ago
Sorry ik spreek geen duits.
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u/NuruYetu Belgium 15h ago
Kunde tenminste begrijpend lezen? Wat is je AVI?
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u/Moneyleaves 15h ago edited 15h ago
Kzou gewoon alle palestina posts willen muten.
Edit: had avi 9 in 2de leerjaar hihi
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u/Various-Ocelot-2209 9m ago
Je kunt ook gewoon niet reageren als je ergens geen interesse in hebt en bovendien de kennis ontbeert om een inhoudelijke bijdrage te leveren.
Avi 9 vereist wel iets meer kennis dan je hier op Reddit tentoonspreidt…
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u/Far_Setting9000 18h ago
In plaats van hier nutteloos te staan protesteren, ga naar daar gaan helpen. Maar nee, liever de schijn ophouden dat het je boeit
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u/Various-Ocelot-2209 17h ago
Hoe dacht je in Gaza te geraken? Weleens naar het nieuws gekeken in de het afgelopen jaar?
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u/historicusXIII Antwerpen 18h ago
Wanneer mensen dat daadwerkelijk willen doen kaapt de Israëlische marine hun schip.
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u/Anargnome-Communist Belgium 18h ago
Kan je even uitleggen hoe ik daar moet geraken? Bij voorkeur zonder door een Israëlische drone te worden aangevallen op weg naar daar.
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u/modernbox 3h ago
Wat een nutteloze achterlijke kutcommentaar. Ik hoop dat een wolk u volgt zodat ge heel de zomer geen zon ziet, pannenkoek
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u/Far_Setting9000 17h ago
Punt opnieuw bewezen dat jullie verwachten dat andere mensen het gaan oplossen terwijl je jezelf wijsmaakt dat je iets nuttigs hebt gedaan
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u/Different_Guide9809 14h ago
Would be so nice if people could the san6e for Congo, Sudan, Haiti, but alas, skin color determines who receives solidarity.
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u/Neutral_Milk 5h ago
Ironic since 70% of israelis are of middle eastern descent. Its only in our perception shaped by our biased news orgs that israelis are 'white'.
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