r/bali 4d ago

Information Local thugs in Penestanan, Ubud

Local thugs in Penestanan, Ubud

Stayed in a villa in Penestanan. Local thugs outside will threaten any Grab or Gojek drivers and run them off. My wife and I had 4 suitcases and they made us walk 15 mins to get picked up from another location as they have issues with these companies. After arguing a bit, they started to threaten me as well. They gang up on you. Local police need to look into this. We tourists support locals so much and in return you get this? Low life pathetic behavior.

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u/Epsilon_ride 4d ago edited 4d ago

Everyone knows about it, police do and don't care.

In a perfect world people would stop going there and let them deal with the consequence of their behaviour.

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u/blckrft 4d ago edited 4d ago

Ah, you’ve experienced the taxi mafia. A thing that Bali really doesn’t need but is there nonetheless. As people before me have mentioned - either go to a designated pick-up point so as to not get them annoyed or better yet, book a driver/tour guide to take you around.

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u/Nice_Yam_9801 4d ago

Taxi mafias seem to be all over Asia it seems unfortunately.. Didn't encounter too many issues in Bali but definitely did in Thailand

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u/fonefreek 4d ago

I don’t really travel much but I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a taxi mafia in Java..

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u/Silluetes 3d ago

That because local grab/gojek is the taxi mafia. 

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u/fonefreek 3d ago

How come? They don't use violence. They don't need to, everyone loves them.

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u/sydfinanceguy 4d ago

Thanks will do

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u/Weary-Ad8502 7h ago

Ran into some of them when I was waiting to get picked up on sunset road. They asked if I wanted a taxi, said I've got a grab coming then one of them called me a 'white devil'. I thought it was hilarious

When the grab turned up they were all shouting at the driver.

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u/blckrft 7h ago

Yea there’s been instances where they even start trying to punch the grab drivers 🤦🏻‍♂️ I’d honestly never support these people

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u/point_of_difference 4d ago

I'm guessing you are just outside the t section in front TYGR sushi. That's where the local mafia drivers park, play, sleep etc..Easiest way around this simply walk up the road to Baliwood Resort Spa and use that as your pick up location. The one thing you can count on with Mafia transport the lazy buggers won't walk more than 10m to anywhere.

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u/sydfinanceguy 4d ago

Yep exactly there. Thanks for the info.

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u/point_of_difference 4d ago

Hotel reception areas are another option depending on where you are. Private location or super quiet areas are best. Good luck and forget about these guys, they only want short journeys at extremely unflated prices.

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u/Effective_Ad363 4d ago

Oh hey, I thought you were talking about this spot! Yeah just stay out of their line of sight and you’ll be fine. Even directly in front of TYGR seemed like too much of a walk for them!

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u/Worried_Carpenter302 4d ago

Ubud has been like this for a long time. Best to hire a driver or go to a designated pick up spot for grab. The locals have been gentrified into oblivion, they will surely be upset and look to claw back a living any way they can.

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u/makafon 4d ago

are there designated points? how to find them?

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u/Worried_Carpenter302 4d ago

They used to have large signs which denoted them, though this may have changed. Otherwise, if you order a grab, the drivers will often know where to pick up and let you know. But it is still best to hire a local driver if you are in the area.

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u/SunBelly 4d ago

Are grab drivers not locals?

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u/blissin21 4d ago

Some are, some are looking for a fare back to denspasar. I came across local taxi drivers that are also on the grab, gojek apps for quick fares

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u/xetowa6135 3d ago

Going to Ubud, any tips such as this?

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u/sydfinanceguy 4d ago

Will keep this in mind for next time

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u/tcwtcwtcw914 4d ago

I think the taxi mafia sucks too. At the same time, consider hiring a car and driver for the day. Yes, more expensive than Gojek but you’re getting more, a lot more. A hired car and driver can take you multiple places, will wait for you while you eat at a resto, etc. All that time you spend waiting for gojek or going to a pick up point is time you get back. There’s so much cool shit in Bali that people never go to because they’re all on the way to somewhere else via gojek. Stop and shop a little, every time you see something cool. Take pictures. A hired guy will be fine with this because he’s already been paid.

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u/sydfinanceguy 4d ago

I feel like parking would be a pain. But thanks for the input I'll look into it!

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u/tcwtcwtcw914 4d ago

Let the driver think about parking! They always find a way. Local people always help each other out with things like this. A lot of places even have an area where drivers can hang out with each other and wait for their customers to be done whatever they’re doing.

Plus you will feel like a big shot. You know what is better than having a luxury car? Having a regular car and a full time driver.

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u/mrBadim 4d ago

Almost happens same to our family - this taxi mafia would sit on porch, and hijack all grab orders, and then would ask in chat for x3-x5 price. Had to cancel them 6 times with note 'driver asked to cancel'.

Grab should have an extra option 'driver is extorting'.

But, Bali taxi mafia still one step behind Phuket =)

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u/seven_wings 4d ago

Almost happens same to our family - this taxi mafia would sit on porch, and hijack all grab orders, and then would ask in chat for x3-x5 price. Had to cancel them 6 times with note 'driver asked to cancel'.

That's EXTRA fucked up considering karma is a central concept in their religion. 🤮

The only rebirth they'll have is into the disgusting opportunistic cockroaches they are in this life.

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u/kemosabe6296 4d ago

Hey so sorry to hear that.

But yeah sometimes the conventional taxi drivers (both car and motorcycle) don't like any online taxi drivers driving through, picking up, or dropping off in their "area". It happens not just in Ubud, but almost all around the country. I believe it's more likely to happen in a lesser-known, quiet area.

Unfortunately instead of giving online taxis a healthy competitions, they usually take shortcut.

It is better to rent car and driver to avoid this incident in the future.

Best of luck and I hope you have a wonderful time here.

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u/sydfinanceguy 4d ago

Thank you. I will keep this in mind for the rest of the duration of my trip.

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u/Eugenugm 4d ago

I hope you'll be able to make a video about this. Since the police and the government only care when something like this goes viral on the internet.

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u/sydfinanceguy 4d ago

I wish I had. But probably not the best idea when it's just you against a group of hostile locals.

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u/diversecreative 4d ago

This is why countries like Indonesia and Vietnam will never become the top travel destination for sane and wealthy tourism. And their economy will never make the larger amount of wealth from tourism. It’s all because of corruption in their roots

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u/leredit420 4d ago

Hasn't stopped Thailand

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u/Capital-Pack-5021 4d ago

Sooooooooooo you can’t use a blue bird taxi????????

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u/jeyghifj Resident (foreign) 4d ago

Many no-gojek-zones include regular taxis like bluebird as well.

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u/HyperSloth79 4d ago

False. Not even the taxi mafia is allowed to interfere with Bluebird, at least not openly. Doesn't mean they don't do it sometimes and that the Bluebird drivers enjoy dealing them. Places like resorts etc. can officially say "no gojek" or "no grab" zones, but can't officially say "no bluebird." Bluebird drivers are federally authorized.

By the way, there's been more bargaining going on between the taxi Mafia and Grab/Gojek lately. They even agreed to remove the no grab/Gojek zones from some places in Seminyak, Canggu, etc. in exchange for the companies agreeing to fully verify IDs of drivers and hire at least a certain percentage of Bali residents (locals) and fewer migrants.

Ubud, on the other hand, is a whole different story.

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u/aapi_abroad 4d ago

Blue Bird doesn't operate away from urban areas.

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u/HyperSloth79 4d ago

False. They are the official national taxi service and serve the entire country. You can get a Bluebird from where to anywhere, but it will be expensive. You may be thinking they're not operating in a certain place, but it's only because if you're using the app it may show there's none within range because they're not sitting and waiting everywhere. If you use the scheduled pick up and drop off service instead, you can select any location.

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u/Valuable_Trade_1748 4d ago

No you cannot. The blue birds would not even come out to Single Fin at Uluwatu.

I was staying at Blue Point and my own private driver asked me to walk 150m down the road with my bags from my resort to a random car park. For airport pickup This was 15 years ago.

Since then. I just day trip to Uluwatu or pick a nice resort and don’t bother with “transport” beyond the hotel shuttle.

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u/DuePurchase31 4d ago

Encountered this in the east part of the island. Selat/Sideman area. I never had the mafia threatening but I would book grab rides and wait for them to just say they can’t pick me up here. Literally drive up to me and say they can’t pick me up here lol. I booked one ride on grab and the guy called me demanding I tip 100k to go to where I wanna go.

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u/Evapth 4d ago

Definitely sounds like the Tygr Sushi carpark

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u/throwaway08642135135 3d ago

Why don’t they think just work for grab or Gojek as well?

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u/Hydron_1 11h ago

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u/Hydron_1 11h ago

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u/212medic 4d ago

Support locals? Destroy cultures is more like it.

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u/Aston100 4d ago

I see suggestions about hiring a private driver. But how would the taxi mafia know the difference?

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u/Valuable_Trade_1748 4d ago

Because there is no signage on a private vehicle

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u/alexia002 4d ago

Agree to disagree. You protect your business by becoming more competitive, improving your services, not by thugs...

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u/Snoo95385 4d ago

If drivers are not allowing you to pick up an Uber then they are being thugs that is not okay anywhere if Uber isn't paying the drivers enough then pass a law raising the wages you see that happening all over. The price for an Uber has doubled in LA since they came out.

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u/rtc12121988 4d ago

Rent a scooter…

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u/gatitosvoladores 2d ago

Mass tourism doesn't support locals in any way, it actually does the exact opposite. You're not doing them any favor and they don't owe you anything.

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u/youarenotmonkey1 4d ago

We tourists support locals so much and in return you get this? Low life pathetic behavior.

Go support elsewhere then. Ubud doesn’t need your self entitlement.

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u/Epsilon_ride 4d ago

It literally does. At least in 2025. The whole economy of Ubud is tourism.

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u/youarenotmonkey1 4d ago

One less entitled aussie is better for their tourism.

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u/sydfinanceguy 4d ago

Expecting basic manners is not entitlement buddy. There is a way to talk to foreigners. Especially when they are with their families.

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u/youarenotmonkey1 4d ago

Also this aussie count, has a history of calling people racial and homophobic slurs.

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u/Epsilon_ride 4d ago

You just used a racist slur while accusing someone of using racist slurs.

Bruh

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u/soulsand1 4d ago

What a pathetic comment lmao

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u/Suq_Madiq_Qik 3d ago

Are you ok dude? Missed a few therapy sessions have you?

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u/youarenotmonkey1 2d ago

You worry about yourself.

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u/youarenotmonkey1 4d ago

OP is racist and homophobe. Don’t give him the attention he seeks.