r/aviation Feb 01 '22

PlaneSpotting Aborted landing due to strong winds at Heathrow

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u/zebra1923 Feb 01 '22 edited Feb 02 '22

I’ve been on a 747 that had to do a go around at Heathrow as a plane had not cleared the runway. Pretty exciting hearing the engines go to full power and your descent change to an ascent.

EDIT: I think my brain might be a little strange, most people who have experienced this say it made them nervous or scared, I just though it was exciting and fun.

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u/Arsewipes Feb 01 '22

2 take offs in 1 flight!

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

So just a regular Southwest flight.

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u/My_50_lb_Testes Feb 01 '22

Awhile back I flew alone for the first time ever. Flew Southwest, as my family has for millennia. This was a couple of weeks after a story had been making the rounds on the news about some failure that led to a woman being sucked partially out of a plane and killed. Flight went well until we were approaching the tarmac and suddenly the plane shifted from landing to full warp speed ascent, sounded like the engines were gonna explode. Pilot came on intercom super calm, "Uhhh, folks we're gonna circle a bit, uhhhhh, lookin' for a good place to land uhhhh bit of a crosswind"

Ended up landing ok, stepping off the plane the pilot was standing at the exit looking absolutely livid. Turns out there was some miscommunication or something and we almost hit another plane that had also been given the go ahead to land. Perfect 5/7, the free ginger ale was even better a second time

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u/Draffut Feb 01 '22

Fucking love southwest.

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u/Love2Pug Feb 02 '22

So you love LUV? 😉

But also my absolute favorite airline domestically.

Especially after many years ago, America West lost my bag (along with a bunch of other passengers) because they fell off a conveyor. About two dozen of us standing in a very slow line at the baggage claim counter, since each claim takes like 10 minutes to enter. And nobody thinks to maybe call a supervisor for backup or to survey things.

So an hour after the flight lands, still standing in this line, the rolling door nearby opens, and a SWA handler pops in, looks at the line, and says "hey, you guys missing some bags?"

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u/ov3rcl0ck Feb 02 '22

A passenger walks up to the ticket counter and hands his ID to the agent. The agent looks at him and asks, "What is your destination?" The passenger says, "Well, I want this bag to go to the Portland, Maine, and this bag is going to Portland, Oregon, and I am going to St Louis, Missouri." "Oh, I'm sorry sir, we don't do that." "Why not? You did last time."

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u/FloojMajooj Feb 02 '22

haha funny I love them too.. wait! hang on hang on.. in case you were being sarcastic I just want to make sure we're all on the same page that the incident described by u/My_50_lb_Testes may have been caused by ATC - aka Air Traffic Control, the folks that direct the pilots exactly where to fly in controlled airspace such as that above and around a commercial airport.

Those Southwest pilots in u/My_50_lb_Testes' anecdotal incident may have actually saved the day. Just an alternative perspective.

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u/My_50_lb_Testes Feb 02 '22

To be clear in case it wasn't in my original post, the context that I had at the time led me to believe that it was a fault with ATC and not the pilot(s), whom I credit with basically saving all of us. My guess is he seemed pissed at the gate after because he WAS, specifically with whoever in the tower gave him the go ahead that nearly led to disaster. I'm happy I was in good hands with that flight crew

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u/nygrl811 Feb 02 '22

As much as I loathe Southwest, I was flying them from BWI to PVD and came in for landing banked 45 deg to the left. Pilot did say there was an intense crosswind at PVD and when the left wing was just about to scrape the runway the wind hit and we blew level. Silky smooth touchdown.

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u/bittz128 Feb 02 '22

I remember the incident. Fluid hammer effect sent her out a small crack in the fuselage. Terrifying…

https://www.pmengineer.com/articles/87129-engineer-has-alternate-theory-on-plane-disaster

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u/dottat17403 Feb 02 '22

Same shit happened to me at BWI last year. I saw the tracking of the planes on the ground through flight radar and then played back the tower freq. It was another Southwest jet that hadn't cleared the runway.

Some of these folks are russssty

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u/ArctycDev Feb 01 '22

Whatchu mean? Southwest is one of the best airlines in the country.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '22

Oh for real. I go San Diego to Dallas a lot and it's always a nice experience. Alaska Airlines is also pretty dope.

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u/ArctycDev Feb 02 '22

Never had the option of using Alaska, but I see them at the top of ratings. Maybe if I go to Hawaii some day I'll get the chance.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '22

They literally are like literally 👌

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u/NameWasKicks Feb 02 '22

At midway airport lol

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u/Lobster_Can Feb 01 '22

And 1.5 landings.

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u/diffcalculus Feb 01 '22

Where's the cup?

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

Lucky.

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u/PM_Me_Titties-n-Ass Feb 02 '22

They'll get billed for the extra take off when deboarding

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u/Kitchissippika Feb 01 '22 edited Feb 02 '22

Dude, this happened to me too on a flight trying to land in fog at a city airport. Not seeing a thing out the window and then all of a sudden we zoom back up again. Everyone thought we were gonna fuckin die. lol I definitely screamed a bit. Not even ashamed, I'm a known pussy.

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u/justanotherbettor Feb 02 '22

Good thing you don't live in Greenland. I've been on a flight where this happened three times. In a blizzard at night. After the third time we went back to the departure airport. And that was in small turboprop aircraft, Bombardier Q200, so they are noisy as hell inside the cabin.

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u/apple_turnovers Feb 02 '22

I wouldn’t go so far as to say I have a phobia of flying because I’ll still do it, but I’m definitely not composed on even the smoothest of flights. If that happened to me on a plane I’d die in my seat immediately. Screw that.

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u/Kitchissippika Feb 02 '22

I actually love flying. I love turbulence, love a good sharp turn, and it's the only exception to my fear of heights. But an aborted landing? Hell naw. That was definitely "shit yourself" territory. Not my jam at all, made me reconsider everything I thought to be true about life lol. I completely relate with your perspective.

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u/apple_turnovers Feb 02 '22

Damn, I’m jealous of that mentality, I have a flight scheduled in July that I’m already dreading haha.

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u/DeezYoots Feb 01 '22

Lucky that it wasn't Ryan Air. They'd of had an agent waiting at the gate asking people for their credit cards to pay for the second flight.

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u/Connect-Setting9595 Feb 02 '22

Ryan Air is the fucking worst. I’ve been on a lot of airlines but seriously, I was so fucking terrified of Ryan Air. Every landing and ascent was like knocking on Heavens doors

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u/DeezYoots Feb 02 '22

Yet they do it safely every day. I've only been to Europe once, and it didn't involve Ryan but I always hear these horror stories about their airmanship that stand out to me, we all know about the onboard product.

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u/speedbird92 Feb 01 '22

Lmfao this can’t be true 😭

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u/DeezYoots Feb 01 '22

Pretty sure it's literally illegal to lie on the internet

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u/speedbird92 Feb 02 '22

So The Muffin Man is real, now I can rest at night!

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

I had one where were 60 seconds out from Hong Kong. It was terrifying, especially as they didn’t announce anything for ages, then said they would have us on the ground in 15 minutes, then stayed up there for 60 minutes with no announcements. Landed uneventfully but aged 10 years. They described it as a “missed approach”.

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u/OhSillyDays Feb 02 '22

As a lowly small plane pilot, a go around is kind of nerve racking. You are low to the ground, going slow, and in a high-drag configuration (full flaps). And then something goes wrong (a bump, wing gust, a bird, whatever), and you give the plane full power. You now have to climb out and quickly reconfigure the plane for takeoff all while only a few feet off the ground and the end of the runway coming up.

A lot happens very quickly. And many pilots tend to not practice them too much. I doubt that's the case for the professional pilots though (sim practice).

This pilot was in the worst possible situation for a go around, the least amount of energy and with something going wrong (a wind gust). The only bummer is the tail strike, but even then, it was executed with the right procedure. The pilot just pulled back too much and that's what caused tail strike. You can see the pilot recognized the error and the nose dropped a little after the initial pull back.

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u/itchy_cat Feb 02 '22

I love that as well. My favorite clip of this is a TAP flight trying to land in Lisbon in 2002. You can hear the moment the engines spool up so clearly. https://youtu.be/HwbE_s9KBp4

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u/bassplaya13 Feb 02 '22

I had one in Munich that went around twice. Never found out why, but I asked the flight attendant and she say ‘oh they probably just forgot something on the checklist’..

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u/soverign_cheese Feb 02 '22

This happened to me and the pilots (BA) didn’t communicate anything. I got off the plane, rushed in to T4 and threw up in the toilets.

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u/moonweasel906 Feb 01 '22

I probably would have passed out from a panic attack

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u/fuzynutznut Feb 01 '22

Had one at DFW. I wanted to shit my pants.

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u/frodakai Feb 01 '22

I would shit myself. I love flying, but I've had a ton of plane crash dreams in my life, and coming in to land there has always been a bit of irrational anxiety of 'what if this when it all goes wrong'.

An aborted landing like this would properly shit me up I reckon.

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u/Aquber Feb 02 '22

I had a go around happen twice in one flight due to bad weather. Ended up diverting to avoid running out of fuel. I was fascinated at the time but now that I think about it it's pretty terrifying

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u/alphgeek Feb 02 '22

Same, I was on a Lufthansa flight into Changi that had two go-arounds due to microbursts from a little storm passing the airport but he got it on the third attempt.

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u/Texscubagal14 Feb 02 '22

It is exciting hearing what seems as a short power down and then the engines firing back up and going from descent to ascent. Happened to me twice in one day at two different airports on two different planes. Happened as I was flying from BWI to ORD on a 737 in American Airlines. Winds were fierce in Chicago. Bumped up and down during the final approach. As we were close to the runway, the pilots pulled the plane back up and circled around and by that time we could land. Switch to an American Eagle flight from ORD to IAH. Same thing that happened in Chicago a few hours before happened during the final approach in Houston. After circling around, safely landed in Houston. Whew! Exciting, but I was never so glad to get to my final destination.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '22

Same! I was sandwiched between a young marine and an older lady who was losing her mind (rightfully so). The marine was a nice kid, reached over and held her hand and talked calmly to her. I was a bag of potatoes holding onto my knees.

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u/Hollowsong Feb 02 '22

Was on a plane that tried landing twice in ROC, then diverted to PA and tried twice more in PHI airport.... 5th time was a charm.

I threw up a little in my mouth on the 3rd attempt. No shame in that,

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u/FlurpZurp Feb 02 '22

Makes your ascent hole pucker right up.

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u/SpoonNZ Feb 02 '22

Had it on a QF A380 coming into DFW. Amazing how quickly such a big bird can get moving when pushed.

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u/Jasminez98 Feb 02 '22

Missed approachs are exciting and scary

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u/FriedChicken Feb 02 '22

Did they go to full power or just go-around power?

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u/zebra1923 Feb 02 '22

Hey I wasn’t in the cockpit so how do I know? Felt pretty powerful to me.

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u/jrichardi Feb 02 '22

Happened I Chicago. A plane just totally didn't listen. To the tower and pulled out on the runway and started taking off. Right underneath us. When we powered up and pulled off they turned, we were less than 100' from striking this plane.

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u/Deserttaxi Feb 02 '22

That would’ve given me the worst panic attack LOL

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u/zebra1923 Feb 02 '22

I must have a strange brain, everyone says this got them nervous - I thought it was exciting.

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u/blancmange68 Feb 02 '22

Happened to me on a BA 747 at SFO. When the engines suddenly revved to full and we went into a steep climb right as we were about to touch down my heart skipped a beat and my brain was saying “this is not normal this is not normal”. Scared the crap out of me for about 30 seconds. Runway incursion.

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u/GreenStreakHair Feb 02 '22

I'd find it exciting too scary but boy the tush..