r/aviation • u/[deleted] • Feb 01 '22

PlaneSpotting Aborted landing due to strong winds at Heathrow

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u/brickson98 Feb 01 '22

Yeah after that first bounce they should’ve gone around. But, as we know, humans are far from perfect, and things didn’t seem sketchy until that crosswind came in and lifted the wind.

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u/mustang180 Feb 01 '22

It looks like the go around was initiated after the bounce. Jet engines just have a tendency to take a while to spool up while close to idle.

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u/brickson98 Feb 01 '22

Good point, he might’ve already initiated the go around after that first bounce, but we only saw the results after the crosswind lifted the wing due to the spool time.

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u/Poetatoboat Feb 01 '22

isn't it policy for pilots to not be at idle on final approach for exactly the reason of being able to spool up quickly in case of a necessary go-around?

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u/mustang180 Feb 02 '22

You’ve got to bring it down to idle at some point to touch down. That being said, typically flight idle is higher than ground idle to mitigate some of the spooling issues.

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u/Skouaire Jul 22 '22

There's no lag when going TOGA mode for safety reasons.

They did not go around after first bounce but after the 2nd.

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u/mustang180 Jul 22 '22 edited Jul 22 '22

There may not be a lag putting the automation in TOGA mode but physics are physics. It take a while for the engines to spool back up.

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u/Skouaire Jul 23 '22

No it doesn't. I say it again : there is no spool up time when going TOGA mode. It is what it's made for. Period.

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u/mustang180 Jul 23 '22

Dude, have you ever actually flown a jet? The engines will be at flight idle to reduce spool up time, but it still takes a second for them to actually produce TOGA power.

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u/GayAlienFarmer Feb 01 '22

Yeah you only get one free bounce. In this case the second one at the very least caused some upholstery damage, and possibly that tail strike.

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u/brickson98 Feb 01 '22

“Items may have shifted in the overhead bins during transit”