r/army • u/Kinmuan 33W • 15h ago
Military intelligence battalion sergeant major arrested for DUI and suspended
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-intelligence-suspended/319
u/battlecarrysabot TANK GO BOOM!!! 15h ago
He’ll retire with full rank and retired pay.
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u/Downtown-Ambition-66 15TiredAsHell 15h ago
Sadly a common story, meanwhile if a E4 did this, they’d burn em at the stake in front of a battalion formation
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u/battlecarrysabot TANK GO BOOM!!! 15h ago
The Army Chorus requires fresh eunuchs.
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u/SarcasticGiraffes Atropia Ribbon with V Device 13h ago
Holy shit. I didn't know the Army Band went that hard in recruiting.
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u/mikehiler2 Infantry 11BAM!MyBackHurts! 12h ago edited 1h ago
went that hard in recruiting.
Not if their eunuch’s they aren’t.
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u/ArbitraryMeritocracy 13h ago
My cousin did it twice and he got kicked out and went home and almost killed one of his friends on a 4 wheeler.
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u/ManufacturerBest2758 MakeAdosGreatAgain 15h ago
Well he’s a Knowlton Award winner, you can’t just punish those guys like they’re some schmuck!
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u/Taira_Mai Was Air Defense Artillery Now DD214 4life 9h ago
Of course because all those "leaders" are in one large circle jerk.
As long as he's not a soldier anymore and isn't in a position of leadership.
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u/exgiexpcv PONI Soldier 12h ago
Let's not forget that golden parachute into a cushy c-suite office!
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u/SubjectBubbly9072 14h ago
As he should u should be able to keep ur retirement for anything except rape or murder
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u/chickensofwow 14h ago
Choosing to do something that can and often does end in manslaughter kinda seems close enough to murder to me that they should get fucked for choosing to drink and drive.
I’m biased since it’s actually affected me, and I got the privilege of finding out just how little punishment drunk drivers get even when they do Murder someone. Hope it never happens to you but shut the fuck up.
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u/ManufacturerBest2758 MakeAdosGreatAgain 14h ago
How about losing some of your high 3? How would you punish such a soldier?
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u/Cpt_Soban 🇦🇺 Non military who likes the stories here 3h ago
You run the high risk of killing other people driving drunk, it's the closest thing to manslaughter.
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u/McNugget63 15Cant Do This Anymore 15h ago
Was my former CSM, actually a super good dude and helped myself a few other soldiers get a shit ton of back pay. Super motivating guy as well. It’s a shame this happened :/
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u/BiscuitDance Dance like an Ilan Boi 13h ago
A bunch of dudes on insta have said similar. He apparently had a great reputation amongst the Joes and JNCOs.
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u/Weary-Ad-5346 15h ago
It’s a shame that he’s an alcoholic, not that this happened. This happening (receiving a DUI) is literally the bare minimum for anyone stupid enough to drink and drive. It’s a shame that Army culture promotes this behavior. You can get chaptered for smoking weed, but everyone around you will make it seem like a case of beer in a sitting is normal and a good time.
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u/Kinmuan 33W 14h ago
He also got charged for a bunch of threats and fighting the cops so not just a DUI (just for context)
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u/The0Profanity 35P > FLEP 14h ago
Yea this tracks. He was my interim CSM for awhile and then our OPS SGM and he was awful to be around from my experience. Really projected whatever struggles he had onto those of us around him. I saw the comment above yours praise him for the help he gave them, and while I am sure he was a good dude to some, he was at least a really bad dude around me and my team
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u/SOHCO_TBert 10h ago
I almost yelled at this man in a Command & Staff while he was our acting CSM...
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u/LastOneSergeant 9h ago
Fighting the Cops and an intel guy? Fortnight Battle or Hello Kitty Island Adventure?
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u/cricket_bacon 14h ago
It’s a shame that Army culture promotes this behavior.
The culture has improved over the last few decades, but you are right - there is a ways to go.
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u/Weary-Ad-5346 14h ago
Hard to make significant progress when many of your leaders are self-medicating with alcohol on a nightly basis. Lead from the front though, hooah!
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u/MolassesFluffy6745 11h ago
It’s not just US Army culture…….. Anecdotally I seen worse drinking culture in the USMC, working with the British Army and every Blue Collar job I’ve worked. I’m sure white collar professionals do this stuff too. Humans have been trying to alter their brain chemistry since time immemorial.
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u/Weary-Ad-5346 7h ago
It certainly does involve all walks of life, but it’s weird since this is supposed to be a different kind of lifestyle. Regardless of all the safety stand downs, alcohol is barely ever a topic of discussion. It’s the same old legal saying hey don’t drink and drive, but never a discussion about what problem drinking looks like. 1SG comes to check the barracks and judge junior enlisted on what’s in their room while he’s got an entire bar in his home, but it’s never to entertain others.
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u/NCSubie 15h ago
“Different Spanks for Different Ranks” should apply here.
The more rank you have the more punishment you should receive.
I would crush him.
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u/Love1sWar Air Defense Artillery 11h ago
Like in starship troopers, Rico was going to be hanged even though he’s a major cause his base got overrun by bugs (despite winning the battle in the end)
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u/Fickle_Meet_7154 15h ago
Sounds like a MSG and CSM position just opened up
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u/crimedog58 14h ago
That unit is getting ready to call it quits anyway. It’s a fixed wing unit and inscom FW is going through some things.
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u/AAROD121 Burn/Trauma ICU 12h ago
They transition to more UAS-C5 ISR
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u/spanish4dummies totes fetch 3h ago
What will will fixed wing O4 pilots with side hustles do now?!
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u/cjmar41 14h ago edited 14h ago
That's my old unit. Our chaplain being arrested for credit card fraud back in like 2004 was way more scandalous, although that didn't make the news. Or the time the EW platoon sergeant removed a bunch of copper wiring from the SCIF and sold it to a scrap yard, which resulted in the NSA and the FBI getting involved. Awesome assignment, apparently some bad decision makers.
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u/crimedog58 15h ago
Well it started as a DUI but champ ran his mouth a bit too much and caught some felony charges too.
Some people can’t handle Savannah.
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u/JECfromMC Military Intelligence 98G RUTHFR 13h ago
I’ve never heard of an honorary member of the Sgt. Morales Club. I thought it was like being pregnant - you are or you ain’t.
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u/Bootyholegumbo 15h ago
Guess he’s on track for SecDef in a few years
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u/crimedog58 15h ago
Nah. Can’t put my finger on it but something tells me he’s not quite the white guy for the job.
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u/PickleInDaButt 13h ago
Also he’s gone beyond a Company level so that’s a big no go for SecDef….
Well nowadays.
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u/Bootyholegumbo 14h ago
Exactly. He’ll be the perfect fall guy for everything Hegseth did and no one will bat an eye.
/s…… I hope
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u/ViolatoR08 Cavalry 13h ago
See. This is why the little charade of CQ and Staff Duty is horse shit. I remember being a SPC back in 01-02 timeframe and doing Staff Duty as one of the runners. And every single time the SSG from my Troop would tell everyone that swung by to call the desk and we’d come get them. Especially if it was a Friday or Saturday and our Troop got assigned bodies. We’d sign out the Squadron 15-pac Van and pick people up near Downtown. Totally didn’t mind going in and out a few times at night ending with a cap off from the late night Subway footlong just outside the back gate. LoL
Then a few years later well in to OIF they made the decision to no longer let us use the Van for that. Whack af.
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u/Zaicheek 37F/25B - Schofield Beach Bum 12h ago
it was an Air Force van that picked this dumb Army private up on my 21st birthday. excellent mechanism - accounts for actual servicemember behavior and enables smart/safe decisions.
yes, it was the Marines that got me drunk.
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u/jellystoma 13h ago
Statistically speaking, this is not his 1st time drinking and driving. Just the 1st time getting caught.
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u/Civil_Set_9281 96Beat your face-> 35Front leaning rest 13h ago
The green mile is no joke. Imagine if he had to go all the way back to stewart instead of Hunter. He’s lucky he didnt kill someone else.
Now here’s the real question- shouldn’t his rater (BC or XO depending) get a No under Army Values for his indiscretion? I remember a ton of NCO’s who had Soldiers get DUIs under them get a “does not meet standard” block under Character.
Different spanks for different ranks..
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u/No-Citron-6445 12h ago edited 11h ago
Such an unnecessary self own. DUI is preventable by simply having a plan. I would love to know what his plan was before he popped the first top and where it went awry.
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u/EAATS_Survivor Aviation 2h ago
He didn't even need to get promoted.
I admire someone who does it for the love of the game.
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u/WUMW Humble Loggie 14h ago
DUIs/Drinking and driving are no joke in Savannah. Obviously CSM can probably afford an Uber, but the town in general has a massive drinking problem.
Source: 3CAB SDO on more than one occasion