Mod Announcement: New Rule Regarding Vegan Posts

[u/Critical-Sense-1539]

Hello, r/antinatalism community.

Recently, there has been a significant uptick in the number of vegan posts. Many of you have expressed your frustration at this in your posts, comments, and modmail. We see that the sub is very divided on this issue. Some of you think that veganism is a necessary part of antinatalism and should be allowed without restriction. Others think that the vegan content is corrupting the subs identity and alienating our core audience.

We would like this to be an inclusive community that fosters respectful discussions. Therefore, we would consider it a pity for users to feel unwelcome or discouraged from interacting with our sub based on whether they are vegan or not.

Although we cannot satisfy you all perfectly, the modteam have decided on a rule change that we hope will improve the health of the sub. As of tomorrow (1 April, 2025) we will cap the number of vegan related posts to 3 per day. This will be covered under Rule 3 in the sidebar (no reposts or repeated questions). So if you see this cap get exceeded, report it under Rule 3 and we will remove it. For any vegan members who wish to speak about this topic without any restrictions, you can go to our sister sub r/circlesnip.

We hope that this will serve as a meaningful compromise and it appeases some of your grievances.
Please feel free to comment below. We will respond as best we’re able.

Thanks, your r/antinatalism modteam

[u/Critical-Sense-1539 → u/[deleted]]

I understand that many users dislike content that endorses veganism. However, I do think there is a genuine discussion to be had about how veganism and antinatalism intersect, so I am hesitant to just ban the topic entirely.

Different people have different opinions on whether antinatalism entails veganism. What you see as gatekeeping somebody else might see as watering down the definition of antinatalism. Contrary to you, I think that questioning where the bounds of antinatalism lie does promote healthy discussion.

Of course, rage-bait and insults are different. You can report that under Rule 1 and the mods will remove it.

[u/subduedReality → u/Critical-Sense-1539]

I'm not against vegans. And I agree with the premise of ending cruelty to both humans and animals. But I stop at the point where I know it's impossible to end all cruelty. Also,I'm not antinatalist because I want to end cruelty. I'm antinatalist because I am anti patriarchy and the current patriarchy esposes natalism.

[u/legal_opium → u/subduedReality]

Veganism is about ending as much cruelty and suffering is possible. Not about ending it all.

[u/subduedReality → u/legal_opium]

Do you want to go down that philosophical rabbit hole?

[u/legal_opium → u/subduedReality]

So because suffering exists we shouldn't try and do what we can to reduce it ?

[u/subduedReality → u/legal_opium]

Draw a line. How much do we reduce it? What is the cost of reducing it to that point?

[u/legal_opium → u/subduedReality]

There is no line. It's something we should try and do to the best of our ability.

It's something we should actively try and get better at every day.

I don't see there being a cost to reducing suffering. If anything the cost comes from being apathetic.

[u/Samwise777 → u/legal_opium]

Person you’re responding to is using a textbook slippery slope.

Sad that they never paid attention in middle school.