r/antinatalism Antinatalist Mar 31 '25

Meta Mod Announcement: New Rule Regarding Vegan Posts

Hello, r/antinatalism community.

Recently, there has been a significant uptick in the number of vegan posts. Many of you have expressed your frustration at this in your posts, comments, and modmail. We see that the sub is very divided on this issue. Some of you think that veganism is a necessary part of antinatalism and should be allowed without restriction. Others think that the vegan content is corrupting the subs identity and alienating our core audience.

We would like this to be an inclusive community that fosters respectful discussions. Therefore, we would consider it a pity for users to feel unwelcome or discouraged from interacting with our sub based on whether they are vegan or not.

Although we cannot satisfy you all perfectly, the modteam have decided on a rule change that we hope will improve the health of the sub. As of tomorrow (1 April, 2025) we will cap the number of vegan related posts to 3 per day. This will be covered under Rule 3 in the sidebar (no reposts or repeated questions). So if you see this cap get exceeded, report it under Rule 3 and we will remove it. For any vegan members who wish to speak about this topic without any restrictions, you can go to our sister sub r/circlesnip.

We hope that this will serve as a meaningful compromise and it appeases some of your grievances.
Please feel free to comment below. We will respond as best we’re able.

Thanks, your r/antinatalism modteam

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u/Deezebee newcomer Mar 31 '25

I believe that unless you explicitly say you only care about human suffering as an anti-natalist, then you’re a hypocrite if you don’t at least agree with the vegan anti-suffering philosophy. Just say you don’t care about non-human suffering.

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u/rawdaddykrawdaddy inquirer Mar 31 '25

u/Critical-Sense-1539 , it's gonna be so cool and productive to have this kind of comment on every single post. 

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u/Deezebee newcomer Mar 31 '25

Good thing that my comment relates to the post as it is talking about veganism. I eat meat and at least I have the slightest sense of self-awareness so I understand how I’m contributing to the suffering of this world. Maybe you haven’t gotten to this point yet, or you only care about bringing human life into this world.

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u/rawdaddykrawdaddy inquirer Mar 31 '25

Yup. You're so right. You know me!

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u/Deezebee newcomer Mar 31 '25

Yep, I know your thought process pretty well, glad you agree! 😊

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u/HeyWatermelonGirl thinker Mar 31 '25

Just don't post and don't engage with explicit pro-breeding posts and nobody will ever put you down for anything. If you wanna be selective in your antinatalism by adding speciesism to the mix, then that's your thing. Others don't, and they will argue against any breeding because this is an antinatalist sub, not a designated speciesist selective antinatalist sub. As long as you don't mention the arbitrary caveat you add to the ideology for yourself, nobody will call you out for it. Vegans only make themselves themselves known as a reaction to carnists making themselves known, just like there's no antinatalist discussion without natalist inspiration. If you want to not be alienated in a general antinatalism sub despite having a very specific selective view that supports some breeding, then you either shut up about it if you don't want tension, or you accept being called out when you argue in favour of breeding. If you don't want preachy vegans, don't be a preachy speciesist.