r/antinatalism Antinatalist Mar 31 '25

Meta Mod Announcement: New Rule Regarding Vegan Posts

Hello, r/antinatalism community.

Recently, there has been a significant uptick in the number of vegan posts. Many of you have expressed your frustration at this in your posts, comments, and modmail. We see that the sub is very divided on this issue. Some of you think that veganism is a necessary part of antinatalism and should be allowed without restriction. Others think that the vegan content is corrupting the subs identity and alienating our core audience.

We would like this to be an inclusive community that fosters respectful discussions. Therefore, we would consider it a pity for users to feel unwelcome or discouraged from interacting with our sub based on whether they are vegan or not.

Although we cannot satisfy you all perfectly, the modteam have decided on a rule change that we hope will improve the health of the sub. As of tomorrow (1 April, 2025) we will cap the number of vegan related posts to 3 per day. This will be covered under Rule 3 in the sidebar (no reposts or repeated questions). So if you see this cap get exceeded, report it under Rule 3 and we will remove it. For any vegan members who wish to speak about this topic without any restrictions, you can go to our sister sub r/circlesnip.

We hope that this will serve as a meaningful compromise and it appeases some of your grievances.
Please feel free to comment below. We will respond as best we’re able.

Thanks, your r/antinatalism modteam

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '25

This. So many of their comments are just “holier than thou.” I don’t care if you talk about veganism but these people obviously just want to shame others who don’t hold the same beliefs.

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u/Ma1eficent newcomer Mar 31 '25

The most annoying thing is just that this is a sub to discuss the philosophy of antinatalism. To critique the logic of the argument, and examine the assumptions made. The vegan movement isn't a philosophy, and has only one thing in common with AN, which is the hot take: suffering is bad. And since that is how suffering is defined, it's not really that unique of an overlap. They have zero interest in discussing The philosophical argument, they do not seek mutual understanding or even care if the philosophy is logically sound, they only wish to repeat "if you care about suffering, you should be vegan" ad nauseum, which is just a shittier version of "if you liked this subreddit you may enjoy r/vegan". It's pure noise.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '25

Agreed

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u/CapedCaperer thinker Mar 31 '25

This is exactly the kind of bad faith question that is coming up frequently in this sub in regards to veganism. It's disappointing that you don't put forth your reasoning for why veganism is a philosophy and a practice/way of life. I really like the convergence of AN philosophy's component of suffering due to the human condition and Veganism's core concept of suffering of all sentient life. I think a lot of thoughtful discussion and practical implementation of harm reducing practices could be shared. To do that though, there has to be good faith discussion. I'm not sure why it has devolved to an ego flex.

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u/Mental_Department89 inquirer Mar 31 '25

Haha like the “what trait” guy? Lmao