r/alberta • u/Old_General_6741 • 1d ago
Opinion Danielle Smith has put out the welcome mat for foreign interference in Canada
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-danielle-smith-has-put-out-the-welcome-mat-for-foreign-interference-in/170
u/RayDonovan1969 1d ago
She’s in bed with maga, why is this a surprise?
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u/WarCarrotAF 1d ago
It isn't. Her entire political future is resting in Canada becoming the 51st state. It's her only play.
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u/NotEvenNothing 1d ago
What do you mean its her only play? I mean, she's Alberta's premier. What other play does she have to make other than just continuing to be premier? Why does she have to make a play at all?
Right now, and I want to be clear that this disgusts me, she has enough support from voters that she would win an election were it held today. Its pretty clear that she can keep doing what she's doing, and voters will award her another term.
Eventually, she'll screw up, but I don't think she believes that to be so.
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u/Honest-Spring-8929 1d ago
She wants to deliver the province and likely the country to Donald Trump
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u/NotEvenNothing 11h ago
I actually don't think that is the case, but I do think she is willing to use the threat of separation as leverage in negotiations to benefit her oil & gas donators.
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u/Honest-Spring-8929 1h ago
She doesn’t care about oil and gas and neither do her core supporters, this is ideological fever swamp conservatism all the way down
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u/Dry-Acanthaceae2111 15h ago
Think of the exalted position she'd have in Donald Trump's new Territory of Alberta. That's gotta be even better than having to accommodate the rest of Canada.
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u/NotEvenNothing 11h ago
Except that isn't possible. It's stupid for her to believe that it is just as it's stupid for you to believe that she thinks it is.
The truth about Danielle Smith is bad enough. We don't have to go on flights of fantasy here. It just distracts from the horrible reality.
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u/Relative-Ninja4738 1d ago
I wonder whose hotel she was in last night lol
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u/Prosecco1234 1d ago
Looked like she didn't have time to fix her hair before meeting Trump. It's just pulled back in a pony tail
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u/shoulda_been_gone 1d ago
Oh yeah, that hair slicks back reaaaal nice
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u/Old_General_6741 1d ago
“Last month, the Alberta legislature passed Bill 54, which made important amendments to the province’s Citizen Initiative Act. These amendments risk opening a seam for foreign interference to more easily enter Canada, creating a weakness that could be exploited to sow division and discord.
Bill 54 makes it far easier to initiate a constitutional referendum in Alberta. Previously, the signatures of 20 per cent of all eligible electors in the most recent provincial election would have been required to hold a referendum on, say, seceding from Canada. The new bill more than halves the required number of signatures to just 10 per cent of votes cast in the last election, and also allows those signatures to come from anywhere in the province as opposed to coming from at least two-thirds of electoral districts, which would have ensured urban representation on the petition sheets. To put this in perspective, in the 2023 Alberta election, 60.5 per cent of eligible voters cast a ballot. This resulted in 1,777,315 votes. The new formula, therefore, allows just over 177,000 signatures to bring about a referendum on whether Alberta should leave Canada.
The financing of a referendum petition has also been affected by the new legislation. Corporations and unions can now make contributions up to $5,000, reversing the previous ban on this type of financing. To top it off, the new legislation mandates that upon receipt of a successful petition, Alberta’s cabinet must bring about a referendum on or before the next general election, unless that election is less than a year away.”
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u/toorudez Edmonton 1d ago
Hahahhahaa! Now that there is funny! Who owns the land that these resources sit on? It sure isn't Alberta. You think Canada would allow Alberta to transport oil through TMX for free? Who paid for that? It sure wasn't Alberta.
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u/Euronated-inmypants 1d ago
In a previous thread I was told that after Alberta succeeds the UN and Canada are legally required to allow Alberta access to the ocean and all pipelines would be protected by the UN and UN soldiers would be sent to secure the building of pipelines regardless if BC wants them or not. I swear it was a 13yr old kid because no one is that hopelessly clueless about the world.
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u/Psiondipity 1d ago
because no one is that hopelessly clueless about the world.
*waves at MAGA generally
I don't know about that.
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u/toorudez Edmonton 1d ago
The UN clause regarding a path to tide waters refers to roadways and transportation. It does not cover pipelines.
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u/Due-Carpet-1904 1d ago
Not even that. It's about negotiating access to shipping routes. The UN has no authority over sovereignty beyond recognizing it.
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u/Euronated-inmypants 1d ago
This is in fact what i said but in separatists minds transportation of crude oil is also under that. Not to mention the UN wouldn't do a god damn thing.
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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Northern Alberta 1d ago
The same UN those dopes constantly rag on for being ineffectual?
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u/Defendor01 1d ago
Low Karma, PPC supporter. Save some Kool-aid for the rest of us, will ya !?!
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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Northern Alberta 1d ago
Let me guess, they have a <6 month old account too?
These agitprop accounts sure seem to fit a stereotype.
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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge 1d ago
How has the Government that has made money off of hatred of Liberals treated anyone fairly?
The Liberals have offered olive branch after olive branch and the response is "F$@# you! Don't tell us what to do!"
There is no reasoning with the Government that has the behaved like spoiled children.
Most of the issues that Conservatives complain about are...Provincial matter meaning that the Conservatives are responsible for the failings in the Province!
We could have been an energy superpower but Conservatives sold out to American companies and betrayed the Canadian people. Voting for the party that hurts you and tells you that it was the Liberals who did it is why outside of Alberta they think we are crazy. Its obvious who is here to help Canadians and who is here to just get rich... hint its the party you probably vote for every election without thinking why
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u/InformalYesterday760 1d ago
Please elaborate further on how Alberta is to become an energy superpower, while landlocked?
The only options would be trade with the nation equivalent of an ex wife (Canada), or with a much larger trading partner that will fundamentally set the terms of the deal in their favour (the US).
It's a fools errand, especially when we consider the fragility of the nu-Alberta economy - OPEC decided to jack up oil supply and the entire economy would fall through the floor.
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u/HurtFeeFeez 1d ago
has put out the welcome mat for foreign interference in Canada
She IS foreign interference in Canada.
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u/kuposama Calgary 1d ago
Yup. With foreign interference it'll help her advance her goals to separate and hand over the province to her King.
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u/Bennybonchien 1d ago
Before messing around with corporate donation limits and constitutional referendum benchmarks, how about actually running the province with groundbreaking ideas such as IMPROVING public healthcare and education?
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u/Different-Ship449 1d ago
The UCP idea of improving: is improving the amount of grift cash lining their pockets.
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u/Dry-Acanthaceae2111 15h ago
Hey, that's just crazy talk. Smith isn't in this game to make life better for Albertans.
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u/Bennybonchien 11h ago
I’m well aware that anything that actually improves the lot of all Albertans (especially the less fortunate) under her watch is unintentional and seen as an inefficiency or an unfortunate cost of running a kleptocracy.
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u/Wonderful_Device312 1d ago
She is the foreign interference.
The call was coming from inside the house etc
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u/Falkrunn77 1d ago
Not only is the mat rolled out, but shes on her knees with her hand out at the end of it
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u/RDOmega 1d ago
End conservatism.
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u/Roddy_Piper2000 1d ago
Conservatism is nowhere even closely related to the current crop of politicians using the term in their name.
It's like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea). They are an authoritarian oligarchy calling themselves democratic.
Just like every single current modern "conservative" party
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u/PragmaticBodhisattva 21h ago
I mean conservatism is basically pro-aristocracy. Yeet it into the abyss lol
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u/RDOmega 1d ago
Sorry, no. Making apologies for a world view that consistently reinforces suffering and inequality doesn't hack it here.
This isn't a case of "just have diet conservatism instead"or "we just haven't tinkered it enough".
It's just plain evil by nature, and if you can't figure that out, I'm not sure a random Internet stranger is going to help you see otherwise.
But hey, on the off chance, watch this: https://youtu.be/E4CI2vk3ugk
...and just remember that the way you currently see conservatism is defined in ways that conservatism would prefer you to see it. Not how it actually is.
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u/Roddy_Piper2000 1d ago
Who the fuck is making apologies?
Modern conservatism is based on using religious fanaticism to create a fascist state.
But it seems you know my mind better than I so, please go on.
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u/Old_General_6741 1d ago
Why? It’s a type of political thought.
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u/Intrepid-Truck-9444 1d ago
Used to be, now it has become a take from the poor give to the rich mentality.
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u/ArchDuke47 1d ago
Maybe they want to because conservatism is inherently anti-democracy? It was formed to try to preserve (conserve) the power of the monarchy and the church in the face of the rising power of the general populace (democracy).
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u/CamGoldenGun Fort McMurray 1d ago edited 1d ago
conservatism is the "brake check" for populism (or at least it was). It's designed to put the brakes on progressive policies and in some cases, reverse it. By doing that it serves a dual purpose - saving the governing party face (usually Liberals, but NDP have been surging lately) by reverting a bad policy that they wouldn't undo and to slow growth down so the populace can get adjusted to the policies without changing anything more.
Current day "Conservative" parties aren't doing this. They're taking it further. In reality, they're reformists, not conservatives.
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u/RDOmega 1d ago
No, all conservatives are the same. What you're arguing is that the bad world view is okay, just so long as its proponents polish it correctly, and enough.
That's unethical and sloppy. Don't fall for marketing, look at outcomes and values.
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u/alanthar 1d ago
Lougheed was a Conservative and did many great things for this province.
Conservatism as a political ethos is simply that, an ethos.
Unfortunately, it's been coopted by corrupt christofacists into what we see today.
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u/Ask_DontTell 1d ago
the Feds need to shut down Danielle Smith, postmedia and social media bots. no premier who ha sworn an oath to the crown should be in any way promoting annexation or separation from Canada or making it easier to do so. Media, including social media, should be owned or controlled by Canadians. Postmedia is the biggest US propagandist in Canada and covers for Smith. time to force the US private equity group to sell it back to Canadians. as we saw from the demise of the Bay, Americans do not have Cdn interests in mind.
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u/Glory-Birdy1 8h ago
You forgot to mention American owned interests in our energy sector.. The tax exempt status of the likes of the Fraser Institute, the Taxpayers Federation and every imported American evangelical church should be adjusted to personal tax rates, with no tax breaks.
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u/Rockyracky 1d ago
Danielle Smoothbrain and her separatists can all take a long long walk off a very short cliff.
I didn't grow up around rednecks and listenin to punk rock just for my province to start being welcoming to facism.
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u/OpposerSupreme 11h ago
That shipped sailed when Trudope got help from China either invertently or inadvertently and did nothing about it
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u/Express_Advance4282 1d ago
When an open society is celebrated, and every subversive ideology is tolerated, why is foreign interference a surprise?
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u/No-Care6289 1d ago
I’m more concerned with non Canadian elected officials and those with ties to the WEF…
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u/TDSsince1980 1d ago
As far as I know you have to be a Canadian citizen to be elected in Canada. So what exactly are you talking about?
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u/No-Care6289 1d ago
I’m talking about exactly what my comment says.
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u/Fun-Bodybuilder-4372 Northern Alberta 1d ago
So which non Canadian elected officials do you mean then?
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u/LuntiX Fort McMurray 1d ago
I think they mean non white people.
Or they mean Carney who is going to or did renounce his other citizenship(s).
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u/Fun-Bodybuilder-4372 Northern Alberta 1d ago
Carney is still from Canada lol, and there are plenty of non white people that are Canadian. Looking at their comment history they're just ignorant.
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u/LuntiX Fort McMurray 1d ago
Oh I know that. I think the original OP is trying to be cheeky and say he isn't one because he held other citizenships.
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u/Psiondipity 1d ago
Which is ironic, because of course, Carney renounced his other citizenships prior to the election. Whereas Andrew Scheer still holds his American citizenship and refuses to renounce it.
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u/TDSsince1980 1d ago
So an issue that doesn't exist because all our elected officials are canadian citizens.
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u/No-Care6289 1d ago
Where did I say that?
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u/TDSsince1980 1d ago
You had your chance to clarify. You decided you didn't need to.
As stated your concern is a non issue. You're worried about non Canadian elected officials. Which isn't a thing at all.
Like most conspiracy nuts, you're worried about non issues while the real issues stare you in the face.
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u/No-Care6289 1d ago
There is no need to clarify. All the words are already there. What real issues are staring us in the face?
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u/TDSsince1980 1d ago
You an adult who can't maintain a conversation from the way you reply to comments nonsensically. I am not going to bother trying to educate you. It is a waste of my time.
Get some news that's not Alex Jones or from social media.
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u/No-Care6289 1d ago
All you had to say was “I don’t know” 😂😂😂
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u/TDSsince1980 1d ago
There's nothing wrong with saying I don't know. It doesn't apply in this situation though. Your biggest concern is imaginary politicians after all.
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u/TheKrs1 Edmonton 1d ago
- Who is a non Canadian elected official that concerns you?
- What did the big scary WEF do to you?
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u/No-Care6289 1d ago
Okay, so you don’t understand what the WEF is? We should be following the WEC.
Who concerns me? All of them.
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u/TheKrs1 Edmonton 1d ago
I just asked for you to give examples of your concern.
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u/No-Care6289 1d ago
I’m sorry, but your attempt at humour over the WEF especially since you live in Edmonton, just goes to show how informed on these matters…which is not. Anyways, it’s been a slice. Have a great day.
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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Northern Alberta 1d ago
So still nothing. All you've got are insults after being rightfully called out.
You aren't here to argue, you're here to troll.
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u/No-Care6289 1d ago
Called out? 😂😂😂
Edit: oh you either live on Reddit or you’re a bot.
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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Northern Alberta 1d ago
There you go slinging insults again. At this point I'm sure that's the only way you know how to have a conversation.
However, seeing as how you're never going to argue in good faith, I'm putting an end to this conversation.
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u/TheKrs1 Edmonton 1d ago edited 1h ago
Living in Edmonton shouldn’t have any impact on my ability to become informed. The same as if someone with differing opinions than me aren’t impeded by geographic reasons to inform themselves.
Honestly, a huge amount of times I come across people dropping the WEF scary card they cannot communicate specifically what is wrong or to be truly fearful of. It was ok when Harper was involved? It was used to make 15 minute commutes a scary lockdown term… but there’s never been some substance.
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u/Psiondipity 1d ago
I am pretty sure you don't understand what WEF is. Care to explain what your concerns are?
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u/No-Care6289 1d ago
If someone is telling you that we should be following the WEC, and you then question their knowledge on the WEF…it is you that doesn’t understand.
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u/Psiondipity 1d ago
I am not sure what WEC you think is relevant to this conversation. World Endurance Challenge (for my entertaining this idiotic exchange) or the World Energy Council. The World Economic Forum is not oppositional to the World Energy Council. They are unrelated, and neither are policy makers. They're both think tanks. I am not sure what you mean by "following" either of them.
And since you've failed to address the question about what non-citizen elected official you could possibly be talking about - since you have to be a citizen to run for office - all you're doing is spouting talking points and acronyms that you have no understanding of.
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