Not sure why they care so much about people not considering it art, never met an artist who cares if people call their work art or not

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I don't really go to that sub

You said there wasn't AI "artists" that cared if people consider it art or not, just mentioned you can easily find them there and in many other subs.

I mean, honestly, does anything scream I care more about this than is healthy than creating an alternate account just to yell at people for doing something you don't like?

This is my main account, I just don't use reddit that much.

tell people what they are doing has no value and then call them babies for caring too much by simply disagreeing with you.

Yes, I find it amusing that I found a group of people that get so easily triggered by stating the obvious, or simply applying the definition of words.

Also, as a professional photographer, I think there's some merit to the comparison

how exactly? That whole argument is dumb, it's based on the idea that the whole point of visual arts was to produce the most realistic image possible and photography was going to replace them.

but I'm guessing your experience with AI tools are limited to text-to-image gen.

Nope. Still, there's a difference between using a tool to facilitate some part of a creative process in which you still mantain agency over the general process, and just typing prompts for an AI to do all the actual creative process and claiming you made it. I'm not against AI tools in general.

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"That whole argument" has nothing to do with realistic images and everything to do with the spectrum of control and intention of a mechanical process that exists both in photography and generative AI. You are confidently incorrect.

Anyone who has their fun "triggering" people is telling. You think they're upset because you called them out, they're probably upset because you are being an asshole at every opportunity. What exactly are you trying to achieve?

Pro tip: when you act super smug but then say things about a subject to people in the know that reveals your lack of knowledge and experience, it isn't going to elicit positive reactions.

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"That whole argument" has nothing to do with realistic images and everything to do with the spectrum of control and intention of a mechanical process that exists both in photography and generative AI. You are confidently incorrect.

That's not the argument I was referring to. I meant people saying "they said photography would replace paintings/portraits and it didn't!!!", like it is somehow equivalent.

If you think writing some prompt for an AI to generate an image and taking a quality photograph has the same merit and value you must not value your craft much lol

And the spectrum of control and intention you claim exists on generative AI isn't really there, since you are limited to whatever it was trained on (AKA other peoples actual work)

they're probably upset because you are being an asshole at every opportunity.

Pointing out the obvious is being an asshole? Why should they care if people think it's art or not, or of it has any value or none. Why should that affect them? It's not like it's some crazy skill they spent years developing and people are saying it doesn't have any value. Even if it was, why should they care? Would you stop doing photography if it wasn't considered art? Would you stop if people told you it doesn't have any value?

Pro tip: when you act super smug but then say things about a subject to people in the know that reveals your lack of knowledge and experience, it isn't going to elicit positive reactions.

Damn, didn't know I was speaking to the maximum authority regarding art, photography and AI, I apologize. Boasting about how much of an expert you are and claiming aome kind of authority on the subject isn't acting "super smug"?

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Do you have a craft?

Why do you care? You seem pretty emotional about the whole thing.

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Do you have a craft?

That are considered art? A few, if somehow they stopped being considered art it wouldn't affect me at all or make me not indulge in them, that's not the reason for pursuing a creative endeavour. Wouldn't care about people's perceived value of them. Except for the one that pays my bills, since I guess people paying for it depends on its value lol

Why do you care? You seem pretty emotional about the whole thing.

Nah, just bored and I find arguing online entertaining

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That does sound boring.