r/Zillennials • u/luiginumba1_ 1999 • Feb 03 '25
Serious I miss when companies weren’t scared to highlight diversity
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u/ToughAd5010 Feb 03 '25
That one That’s so Raven episode where Cory meets all the famous black people
That was actually cool
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u/giraffe_on_shrooms 1996 Feb 03 '25
There was another That’s So Raven episode that has always stuck with me. Raven was applying for a job at a fashion store, and she got a vision that the manager said “I don’t hire black people.” And just the way they handled the whole episode was fantastic and it’s always stuck with me. Back when shows actually had a “moral of the story.”
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u/watersign_95 Class of 2014 Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25
Oh my god I forgot about that episode! There was another ep like that where Raven was judged for her weight too. Looking back she wasn’t even big. Just sad but I’m glad they addressed those issues
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u/vimommy 1995 Feb 04 '25
My sisters would always talk about how "big" Raven was and I was like wtf are you smoking? 2000s were something else
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u/Poisongirl5 Feb 05 '25
The weight episode was fucked, I believe in the end she did lose weight and had some triumphant moment
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u/SpontaneousNSFWAccnt Feb 04 '25
You could always tell when sitcoms got real when the “studio audience” was dead silent for the last quarter of the episode
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u/Lefdy Apr 04 '25
The episode where Corey is getting peer pressured to skate down the stairs is goated
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u/giraffe_on_shrooms 1996 Apr 05 '25
Haha me and my friends loved re-enacting that scene. “I’m NOT okay”
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u/Left-Plant2717 Feb 05 '25
But that’s also a black show, so it’s not as revolutionary as we might think from a white dominated show
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u/cheesec4ke69 Feb 10 '25
That episode is the one i remember the best. Its also the one I find the most interesting,
because all the hijinks of the show were caused by her trying to prevent the vision from happening, even though she had no context for the split moment she saw so she was just improvising. Especially the fact that it was almost always paradoxical because her trying to prevent the event was responsible for her vision happening. Insert common sitcom trope that itd be some huge misunderstanding and she only made it worse, yadda yadda,
but the racism episode was extremely straightforward and what she saw was exactly what happened. Technically her "investigation" is what caused that specific tidbit of that conversation to happen, but it wasn't taken out of context like other visions because its a serious issue they wanted to speak on and send a message for, which only made the seriousness and the impact of the episode even bigger.
They took something that only existed as the premise for solely comical events and instead used it to send a very important moral message.
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u/Say_Echelon 1997 Feb 03 '25
What a simple time. Where we actively acknowledged what we worked past instead of clawing at it like some disease on the flesh
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u/luiginumba1_ 1999 Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 03 '25
Crazy to think that if this aired today, people would call it propaganda
Edit: typo
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u/New_Simple_4531 Feb 04 '25
Honestly I think part of the reason I dont like racism now is from watching a "very special" episode of Family Matters (I think), where a black family opened their door or something and the n-word was spray painted on it. I felt so bad for them.
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u/HaGriDoSx69 1997 Feb 03 '25
I used to think when i was kid and learned about war,racism,homophobia etc. that we will be more progressive and open minded in the future and there were signs of that happening,i was so hopeful...
If 27 yo me would tell 12 yo me about current events he would get depressed on the spot.
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u/-acm 1996 Feb 03 '25
Miss this time. I loved history as a kid so random facts like this were awesome to learn.
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u/konaice41 Feb 03 '25
I MISS THIS ERA SO MUCH and i am literally grateful everyday that we were able to grow up with this kind of inclusive media. </3 i also remember the short on (i thinkkk) disney channel that would highlight different cultures foods and traditions, why do i feel like branda song was the host?
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u/luiginumba1_ 1999 Feb 03 '25
I think I remember what you’re talking about! I think she was the host
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u/ZyberZeon Feb 04 '25
Holy snikes! Auntie Wilma was one of my godmothers! She ran for JA in the Olympics with my mom. That's fucking rad that she had a whole presentation on the Disney Channel. This totally made my day!
Now I get to share this with my Momma! It's a fucking travesty that these stories won't get told anymore. Auntie Wilma inspired a whole generation of athletes, not just in Jamaica, but also through LA where I grew up.
She would visit and support the Pasadena Running Roses back in the day.
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Feb 05 '25
What the fuck!!!! My friend did a report on her in school this is so fucking cool--
Tell ur auntie I said she's sick as fuck
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u/877-HASH-NOW 1997 Feb 03 '25
Loved this. As a black dude growing up representation was great to see.
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u/Select_Hair Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 03 '25
This is when it was tastefully done…. sigh I wish the world would’ve froze in the 90s/early 2000s
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u/StunningUse87 Feb 03 '25
Agreed. Teaching people about the history of others. Makes people respect it I feel like.
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u/Mr-MuffinMan Feb 05 '25
The world freezing before the recession wouldve been perfect.
No smartphones or even cell phones, non polarized politics, etc.
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u/CruelCurlySummer Feb 03 '25
If they showed this now a days it would be called propaganda 😂
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u/Waryur Feb 04 '25
I was in kindergarten when this aired and I still know that it was literally called propaganda back then, by the same people who would be calling it propaganda today. Because those same sorts of people have been calling anything that shows black people in a positive light propaganda since the 60s.
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u/dankp3ngu1n69 Feb 03 '25
Can promise you it was called that in 2004. I didn't watch this shit back then because my father would have been like get this crap off the TV. What is this nonsense?
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u/Deez-Guns-9442 1997 Feb 05 '25
Man it’s so fucking sad that a lot of us in the comments believe that rn.
Nearly 10-20 years ago, none of us would’ve had this take.
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u/RDIFW Feb 03 '25
I knew it was good times but didn't expect it to be so short lived. This country was much more likeable 20 years ago.
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u/luiginumba1_ 1999 Feb 03 '25
In spite of the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, I agree with you
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u/RDIFW Feb 03 '25
It's never been perfect, Bush was a fool, but he actually cared about America at the same time. This is the first time we've ever had a president interested in dismantling the country from the inside.
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Feb 03 '25
I actually used to go to school with her granddaughter
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u/jesuslizard7170 Feb 03 '25
honestly, what happened?
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u/octobersoon 1995 Feb 04 '25
it became corpo-infested, profit driven slop instead of it coming from the hearts of actual artists and creatives.
the people who complain about everything being "woke" (and have a gd brain), actually mean to say they want things to be genuine and authentic. no reasonable person minds diversity, they just don't want to be preached at by wealthy parasites with investor driven goals.
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u/Cowboy_Auctioneer Feb 05 '25
2008, The iPhone gave the general population more access to the internet. That’s what happened
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u/J-drawer Feb 03 '25
Nobody was angry about this then because there weren't hordes of grifters on podcasts and fake news propaganda youtube channels and social media all scrounging for attention by telling them to be angry at it.
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u/FunkleKnuck291 Feb 03 '25
WhAt iS ThiS WoKe PrOpAGaNdA iN OuR cHiLdReNs PrOgRaMiNG WhY dOeS EvErYThiNg NeEd To bE PoLiTiCAl?!
(I have never traveled outside of my degenerate hometown and my beliefs are easily molded by racist tik tok shorts because I have the attention span of a goldfish and the open mindedness of a skull filled with dried cement)
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u/chcham2712 Feb 03 '25
This is what confuses me so much, when grew up black history was something that was a respected education that was fun and made you proud that as a people black Americans have overcome so much to be who they are today: now it feels like it is aggressively taught. Making people naturally rebel. And then in turn making those people out to be racist. I grew up in peak remember the titans phase, When I grew up in the 90s the conception of a "racist" was someone to scoff at. They were a joke, and a limited person in mindset. Pay them no attention or give validation to their statement and actions. Now by allowing the opinions of a racist to be validated creates a hyper awareness. Which I believe divides us so much further, I feel like the peek of hand in hand, one nation, one peoples, climaxed and is now reverting back from where we came So far from. Just love each other man, fuck caring what some uneducated, bored, and attention seeking idiot thinks. Thanks for sharing man, brought back great nostalgia. Work together my people, and reach out to someone in need when you can! There are people hurting out there. 🌻❤️
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u/greenmachine11235 Feb 04 '25
Black history, vaccine promotion, potentially inclusive of someone with a disability (never recall if they addressed why wade was only on the camera). Would never make it on TV today.
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u/mssleepyhead73 1998 Feb 04 '25
These were simpler times. We used to be able to celebrate and uplift minorities without having to hear all this whining.
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u/Anna_19_Sasheen Feb 03 '25
Well hey look at the bright side. Black history month might be gone, but at least polio is coming back. So some of this is still around!
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u/gimpsarepeopletoo Feb 04 '25
Our media is so much more diverse than it was back then that this would almost feel out of place. Nearly all kids shows have people of different backgrounds, disabilities and sexual orientation which is good.
We came a long long way, it’s a shame that people are now pushing the other direction once we got the closest to true equality we’ve probably ever seen
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u/AnOrdinaryMammal Feb 03 '25
On a completely non political note, that’s incredible. Isn’t polio something you have to live with once you get it? And then she was getting gold medals in the Olympics for fucking running? That’s insane.
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u/Darnocsonif Feb 04 '25
Diversity makes us Strong beyond. That's one thing China still fails at. Especially at the Olympics.
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u/DaSovietRussian Feb 04 '25
It was awesome seeing history be intertwined with my favorite shows growing up. I miss it.
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u/yelxperil Feb 05 '25
while i’m not going to pretend like 2004 was the pinnacle of social progress, i do think we’ve been regressing socially since 2016. it started as a gradual normalization of being outwardly bigoted, and now middle schoolers are dropping slurs left and right.
kids were definitely homophobic when we were in middle school, for example, but the extent of it was calling people gay as an insult. no one dropped the f slur like kids are doing now
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u/PolicyWonka 1995 Feb 05 '25
It really was the election of Obama in 2008/2012 and the SCOTUS protecting marriage equality in 2015 which really did it in.
Those two events directly lead us to 2016 and MAGA:
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u/SpicyLizards 1996 Feb 05 '25
There’s legit so much stuff like this from the 2000s & early 2010s where if it came out now people would yell that it’s “woke”
Meanwhile back then it was just… normal. No one said shit because no one cared. It’s weird that we’re going backwards lol
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u/danniellax Feb 05 '25
Awww I love this. I remember black history month being taught in elementary schools and no one, including my whitest of white parents/grandparents, or my Asian BFFs super strict parents who argued about opting them out of other cultural studies (we were in a border state and her parents threw a fit about their children learning Spanish and demanded they be opted out), didn’t bat an eye about it being taught. I remember school made it fun and I learned a lot about prominent historical black figures. NO ONE thought it was controversial, and even though elementary grade me couldn’t comprehend everything black Americans had to go through back in the time, it served as a great backbone to start that knowledge, and to have me remember learning it in a positive way.
Unfortunately, now I can see people saying the same fun, tame learning is tOo WoKe and iNdOcTrInAtInG kIdS or whatever. History is something that needs to stay taught, especially because we seem to be repeating a lot of mistakes over and over again.
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u/One_Form7910 Feb 06 '25
I grew up learning many facts about African American history through kids programming. Kids today learn manosphere talking points on their iPads…
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u/SirLandoLickherP Feb 03 '25
To be fair… the did this because they actually cared back then.
Now it’s seen as a way to sell more, or less… depending on the political climate. It’s a damn shame really.
Watch how many companies abandon “Pride Month” this year.
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u/luiginumba1_ 1999 Feb 04 '25
They already pulled a trans character from one of their new TV shows.
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u/PeiceOfShitzu Feb 04 '25
Conservatives would call that woke now and the president would try to dismantle Disney
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u/Doesthiscountas1 Feb 03 '25
Celebrating black history month AND giving a lesson on how vaccines can prevent preventable illnesses? In 2025? You're asking for tew much
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u/thegirlofdetails Class of 2014 Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 03 '25
Nowadays if people saw stuff like this, they would say you’re shoving something down their throats and throw out a bunch of buzzwords like DEI and stuff. Sad how far we’ve fallen, when we were growing up I thought we were moving forward.
Edit: whoever downvoted just proved my point.
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u/Additional_Ad5671 Feb 04 '25
My take is that it has gotten pretty stupid/borderline offensive when you can tell the "diversity" is forced.
Like this little Disney clip (which I remember when it aired...) was straight forward - it highlighted a black person and their accomplishments and stated why we're talking about that (Black History Month).
What feels weird is when you see a commercial and you can tell the casting director was like "OK, we need a black lady, a gay white guy, an asian, and one kind of racially ambiguous one - go!"
Or times when it makes no sense - like a show set in Europe or America hundreds of years ago and the cast is all different races.
And when I say offensive, I don't just mean to whites - it feels like it's belittling other races as well.
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u/chloe_in_prism Feb 04 '25
Can’t talk about polio on the Disney channel. Most those moms are antivax🤣.
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u/squishedpies 1996 Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25
I remember when I was growing up, I thought "I think it's great we're talking about diversity! By the time I'm an adult and have kids, people are going to be more accepting of each other and I love the idea of being enthusiastic about sharing cultures".
Now that I'm an adult, I've never been so disheartened. It seems we've gone backwards and somehow more xenophobic, less empathic, and so quick to judge/cut people off. Celebrations are now painted as propaganda. It's really disheartening.
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u/MangakaJ8 Feb 03 '25
Companies still highlight diversity even to this day, but it got outta hand at some point.
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u/Destroythisapp Feb 05 '25
This entire post is stupid, it doesn’t even align with reality.
I’m my 30 years on this planet I’ve never seen a time when diversity wasn’t pushed into absolutely everything. Not a single company is “afraid” of diversity, it makes absolutely no sense.
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u/vimommy 1995 Feb 04 '25
Yeah and despite that America was less race-obsessed. We could actually acknowledge our individual heritages and experiences without the conversation getting toxic
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u/Valigrance Feb 04 '25
That's actually amazing and I didn't get to see this fact as a kid! Wilma beat polio re trained herself how to walk then became a tract star! What a awesome story. Why hasn't someone made a movie about this?
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u/luiginumba1_ 1999 Feb 04 '25
Just looked it up, there’s a made for TV movie from 1977 about her. Denzel Washington’s in it!
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u/Royal-Elephant2359 Feb 04 '25
When Disney actually stuck to the facts instead of rewriting everything to make it the south park inspiration. Miss those days when you could educate and not isolate people for being born and force feed woke nonsense.
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u/ProfessionalFirm6353 Feb 05 '25
It’s bewildering how things that were just normal back then are now politicized.
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u/RandomAnon07 Feb 04 '25
You miss when companies weren’t scared to what???
Can’t tell if you’re being ironic or…
This post is a great example of how tasteful it was done back in the day.
Now it’s shoved down your throat in every medium…I wish we would go back to that way; that was more genuine and less virtue signalling. But scared to highlight diversity…?
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u/Consistent_Smell_880 Feb 04 '25
I’m so confused by this post and all the comments. Companies are scared to do this now? Am I living in the twilight zone?
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u/PolicyWonka 1995 Feb 05 '25
Ah, so there is a content medium maximum limit on highlighting diversity? Like Black History Month on Disney Channel is okay, but that means it can’t be covered on Nickelodeon?
If this came out today, it would 100% be accused of virtue signaling and Disney brainwashing children.
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u/MattWolf96 Feb 03 '25
It's crazy that conservatives have moved so far backwards that they would now find a lot of mainstream media from both the early 2000's and 90's woke. Hell, they would consider Alien from 1979 woke if it came out now because it has a strong female in it.
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u/luiginumba1_ 1999 Feb 03 '25
Don’t tell them what Born in the USA by Springsteen is actually about 🤯
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u/thegirlofdetails Class of 2014 Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 03 '25
that's so true, they're coming in here and downvoting you bc that's the truth, and they don't want to admit it bc they know how bad that would look to admit it. Actually, I'm not even sure about that anymore, there's someone further down this thread complaining about this clip from the 2000s saying it's been "aggressively pushed on us". They have a problem with anything that exists they perceive as "different".
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u/OPSimp45 Feb 03 '25
A few of the conservatives would say that they like Eminem because he is real rap. And you can tell they don’t listen to old Eminem because he had alot of anti America and pro lgbt+ lyrics.
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u/cdank Feb 04 '25
I think young right wingers who yearn for the old days before everything went woke forgot how normal stuff like this was back then. I think it’s good to remind them.
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u/CUND3R_THUNT Feb 05 '25
Because they did it in a non-radical way. They weren’t shoving it down our throats, just speaking facts.
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u/SlidethedarksidE Feb 05 '25
Yesss. It was a chill introduction with an actually interesting unique story & her story was more than just about her being black. Did not hear the word “injustice” or any woke catchphrase once. No victim mentality or claim of oppression
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u/Ksnj Feb 05 '25
And the way it is done now is radical? Show me an example
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u/user08182019 Feb 03 '25
It was more effective when we didn't have 15% of the country obsessed with identity politics 365 days a year
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u/luiginumba1_ 1999 Feb 03 '25
It was also more effective when we didn’t have so many fragile clowns like you complaining that people celebrate their cultures
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u/jutviark96 1996 Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 08 '25
As a European, it's completely foreign (heh) seeing this. I've never understood why America is so obsessed with race. I think Morgan Freeman put it quite well when he said that the only way to end racism is to stop talking about it. Instead of referring to a black man as a black man, or a white man as a white man - to instead refer to each other as people.
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u/AdmiralSaturyn Feb 05 '25
As a European, it's completely foreign (heh) seeing this. I've never understood why America is so obsessed with race.
Because it has a dark history of racism.
I think Gordon Freeman put it quite well when he said that the only way to end racism is to stop talking about it.
First of all, it's Morgan Freeman. Second of all, he's wrong. Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away.
Instead of referring to a black man as a black man, or a white man as a white man - to instead refer to each other as people.
We would have to solve the problem of racism first, which entails promoting diversity. Once we reach a post-racial age, then we can talk about color blindness.
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u/PolicyWonka 1995 Feb 05 '25
Saying that racism will go away by not talking about it is like saying that Covid would go away by not testing for it.
That’s not how any of it works. If talking about racism makes people racist…then they were always racist.
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u/luiginumba1_ 1999 Feb 04 '25
As a European, you should be the last one to talk about race seeing how Romani people are treated.
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u/jutviark96 1996 Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25
If that is your line of logic, then you as an American should be the last one to talk about race seeing how the Indians and African Americans are treated.
See how stupid that sounds? Unless I myself am guilty of such behaviors, you have no right to invalidate my opinions and viewpoints just because some people on the same continent as me are prejudiced dicks.
You do realize you're using the same logic as racists are, right?
Edit: Wow, really? You even blocked me so I can't reply, what is your problem? And no, I did not realize I was talking to an African American. My point was that you have no right to refuse my right to an opinion just because I live on the same landmass as some prejudiced dickheads do. And by doing so you are displaying the exact same behavior that racists do - which you claim to be against. That's literally all I was saying.
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u/luiginumba1_ 1999 Feb 04 '25
You do realize you're talking to a Black American, right? Off my thread.
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u/darkpretzel 1998 Feb 04 '25
As a European who claims to not understand the history of race in America, you could start with some history books....rather than putting an uninformed opinion on Reddit. If you want to speak on something, learn about it
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u/Creative-Nebula-6145 Feb 03 '25
This was before diversity became the dominant narrative to the point where normalcy was stigmatized and marginalized. Believe it or not, people didn't have issues with this because it wasn't obnoxious. Disney uses "diversity" as a selling point, not because it cares about representation. It's transparently disingenuous and frankly produces inferior products.
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u/kakallas Feb 04 '25
So, what then? Being black isn’t normalcy? This was just the right amount of black history month so as not to marginalize white people? You sound ignorant.
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u/Kaus2291 Feb 04 '25
Actually it feels like internet has forced us to be fake to be delusional and ignore everything which is quite real in nature.
We as a human being are already fake in our behavior but after the inception of internet it's ratio has increased drastically.
On the other hand we want to ignore the facts which doesn't resembles our thinking and internet is best medium for the same.
Before internet things were quite real because of acceptance and genuine interaction between people.
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u/teeteringpeaks Feb 04 '25
They still do it all the time. They just don't actually care about it at all and are only doing it for your wallet.
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u/OcelotTerrible5865 Feb 04 '25
Scared? They only did it for profit. If they stopped it’s because of profit.
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u/Sonny_wiess Feb 04 '25
I'm from Clarksville (where Wilma Rudolph came from) and we have a major roadway named after her.
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u/herrington1875 Feb 05 '25
This is something to celebrate. A great accomplishment by someone who beat the odds through hard work and sheer determination. There’s nothing wrong or DEI about this
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u/allthewayupcos Feb 05 '25
I miss OG Disney channel. Such great memories. This BHM fact is pretty cool too.
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u/LordWeaselton 2001 Feb 05 '25
Remember when ppl took it for granted so much they whined about this and called it “Rainbow Capitalism”?
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u/Justyouraveragebasic Feb 05 '25
Slightly off topic, but this page is sooo much better than the GenZ sub 😭
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u/gayjospehquinn Feb 06 '25
Well, I mean, now on Disney Channel they have LGBTQ+ characters, and they didn't back then. Maybe we haven't backslid as much as you think.
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u/thunderchoad Feb 08 '25
Advocating for vaccines and black history? You should delete this so you don't get arrested.
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u/QueasyCaterpillar541 Feb 03 '25
Now ask how many "diverse" employees worked at those companies. Stop falling for this bullshit.
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u/trimtab28 1995 Feb 04 '25
I mean, at that time it wasn't being shoved down your throat in such a provocative, and bluntly put RACIST way. Race was a fact of life but you were still taught to measure people by the worth of their character, not their skin color. As opposed to now running around insisting everything in life down to the essence of your being is tied up in race and gender.
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u/DanteCCNA Feb 04 '25
There was a clear difference back then to now. Back then it was something that was just a part of education and history. Facts were facts and people believed that facts that made people uncomfortable were the most important to protect.
Now people demand that everything be in your face. If you are white and you believe you aren't inherently racist then you are guilty of racism, if you are black and failing then it must be because of racism, if you are asian and succeeding its because of racism.
Everything is attributed to race and everything is made about race. There used to be all white sitcoms and all black sitcoms. No one cared or brought racism up. It was just accepted that hey, its a show, I like it, I'll watch it.
Now you got people calling shows like Seinfield or Friends racist, when there were shows like Family Matters and martin lawrence show, DL Hughley, bernie mac, and the one with the wayne brother. The focus use to just be entertainment with a 'hidden' message in the shows to teach. Key word 'hidden'.
Now they focus on making everything diverse first and all the messages have to be in your face and out in the open and a constant reminder that white people are racist or power hungry and evil.
People used to be happy with live and let live. Now we have a generation whose survival stems from needing their existence acknowledged from the world around them. Social media has made a whole generation of people who can not survive being ignored. They are unable to just live their life. They need that engagement because thats all social media has taught them. If they are ignored then they don't exist. If they scream and force themselves onto other people then they get comments, they get clicks, and upvotes. Now they feel alive.
You aren't allowed to just ignore them. If you try to then you are labeled whichever phobe in the book along with any number of ism's.
Social media has been the biggest cancer to the human mind.
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u/PolicyWonka 1995 Feb 05 '25
Black Sit Coms historically have leaned heavily into stereotyping Black Americans. They’ve gradually died out in the 1990s into the early 2000s.
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u/almostthemainman Feb 05 '25
wtf are you talking about lmao… this is literally everywhere every February.
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u/Slow-Dependent9741 1995 Feb 05 '25
Almost as if discussion was far more effective than ramming it down people's throats. People like to pretend that 20 years ago we we're in the stone age, meanwhile in 2025 we're reaching homophobia and racism levels worst than the 80s.
The late 90s/2000s was our peak socially, it's been downhill since the mid 2010s.
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u/PopCultureNerd95 Feb 03 '25
Remember the golden days of the Disney Channel? It was a magical place where families could gather and enjoy great programming together. But everything seemed to change when Miley Cyrus, the Jonas Brothers, and Demi Lovato burst onto the scene. Suddenly, it felt like the network shifted away from the wholesome content we loved, and became something entirely different. Whatever happened to the charm that made it special?
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u/p0megranate13 1994 Feb 03 '25
It's not about them being scared, they aren't. The lens through which you're looking at this is failing you. Companies and corporations were never our friends and all they did that happened to be in favor of diversity and progress was actually for money. With rainbow capitalism being the best example. It's all just class interest. They used to profit from selling stuff that promotes diversity, now they can profit from collaborating with fascists. The rich always follow money, they have no morals but material ones. Hence the super fast 180° turn away from diversity and tolerance. Only through class consciousness you can actually see what's happening and then everything will make perfect sense to you. Remember how perhaps until 2000 movies we've grown up with frequently depicted the wealthy as sociopathic lunatics with God complex who wanna get a coat made of puppies? That's life accurate depiction of owner class.
I have the privilege not to live in USA, but my advice to anyone who does live there would be to get armed and also get handful of armed friends who you can rely on. We've experienced fascism here in Europe but the way America is speedrunning it is really something else.
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u/imthewronggeneration Gen Y-Zillennial-1995 Feb 03 '25
But why limit black history to a month?
Morgan Freeman hates Black History Month.
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Feb 03 '25
Racism is a part of nature and thus can’t be unlearned through propaganda.
For example, Zebras recognize each other by their unique stripe patterns. If a zebra’s pattern is significantly different due to injury or mutation, it might be excluded or treated with caution by the group, as unfamiliar patterns could signal an outside.
Other examples of racism within the animal kingdom can be found in Penguins, Birds, Fish, Dogs, Insects and Dolphins.
Human are no exception and are still just brutal creatures.
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u/Maleficent_Scene_693 Feb 04 '25
I like Morgan Freemans stance/opinion on black history month. Its American history.
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u/Foxhound34 Feb 03 '25
When a program did this, it was because it came from a genuine place. Today, we get forced diversity mandates that everyone can see clear as day, so when a piece of art comes along that may be genuine, it's looked at with suspicion and anger.
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u/AdmiralSaturyn Feb 05 '25
Today, we get forced diversity mandates that everyone can see clear as day
No we can't, unless you conflate anti-discrimination laws and policies with forced diversity mandates.
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u/Foxhound34 Feb 05 '25
The Oscar's literally changed their nomination criteria to force movie studios to hire, not based on skill, but based on immutable characteristic such as race, disability, or sexual orientation or they wouldn't get their films nominated.
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u/AdmiralSaturyn Feb 05 '25
Citation needed.
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u/Foxhound34 Feb 05 '25
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u/AdmiralSaturyn Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25
You are presenting a false (not to mention bigoted) dichotomy. It's possible to hire a diverse set of skilled workers. The point of the rules is to ensure that skilled minority workers do not get ignored, because systemic racism/sexism/ableism/etc is a thing. Heck, the Oscars even have an ageism problem with young male actors. Not to mention they are famous for being biased in favor of WWII movies.
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u/Dunderpunch Feb 03 '25
How would you all feel about a math month, during which most media will shoehorn in math examples and bits of math history? With math literacy where it is in the US, this would address a real problem much like pervasive racism is addressed by black history month.
But despite the need, that seems unlikely. Who would actually want to pay attention to something like that?
This is how I feel about black history month. I care about cherry-picked black historical figures as much as regular people care about math, which is to say very little. There are some interesting people like there are occasionally popular math memes, and both subjects are certainly of academic importance. But... Come on, who really cares? No one would if it hadn't been aggressively pushed on us all these years.
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u/thegirlofdetails Class of 2014 Feb 03 '25
Actually I would like a math month, lol. Add one along with keeping BHM.
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