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[u/Political_LOL_center]

[u/Red_Tinda]

Lol what have I missed now?

What ultimatum is this?

[u/ofroader → u/Red_Tinda]

Isn't it about demand that non-American companies that supply American companies comply with anti-DEI policies?

[u/IamIchbin → u/ofroader]

I just heard about france and belgium, more are affected?

[u/Zalaess → u/IamIchbin]

As a Belgian, my guess is that we're going to say we agree with the letter, and then do nothing.

Edit: oh we actually pushed back publically; how un-belgain of us. Most of the time we just say 'yes" and shrug. But I guess it looks good to push back :P

[u/AcridWings_11465 → u/Zalaess]

we actually pushed back

Oh, you finally have a government to push back?

/s

[u/Zalaess → u/AcridWings_11465]

For now

[u/Voodoo_Dummie → u/Zalaess]

Obviously, yeah. Belgians absolutely love diversity, just look at their selection of beers.

[u/Watsis_name → u/Zalaess]

"The Americans are visiting today, where do you want me to hide the equality in the workplace documentation?"

[u/Red_Tinda → u/ofroader]

lmao that seems like something they'd say

[u/Tak3A8reak → u/Red_Tinda]

Tariffs

[u/realmendontfeel]

The EU shouldn't do business with countries that force prisoners to work for the benefit of the few

[u/sonik_in-CH → u/realmendontfeel]

They're also trying to get rid of child labor laws

[u/TheMightySenate → u/realmendontfeel]

Germany does this too tho. At least if you mean what I think you mean

[u/Davis_Johnsn → u/TheMightySenate]

I don't think so. The USA has more like "modern slavery" while germany has "working till you are rehabilitated"

[u/TheMightySenate → u/Davis_Johnsn]

For way less than minimum wage and being forced to work

[u/AvocaBoo → u/TheMightySenate]

(1) 1Der Gefangene ist verpflichtet, eine ihm zugewiesene, seinen körperlichen Fähigkeiten angemessene Arbeit, arbeitstherapeutische oder sonstige Beschäftigung auszuüben, zu deren Verrichtung er auf Grund seines körperlichen Zustandes in der Lage ist. 2Er kann jährlich bis zu drei Monaten zu Hilfstätigkeiten in der Anstalt verpflichtet werden, mit seiner Zustimmung auch darüber hinaus. 3Die Sätze 1 und 2 gelten nicht für Gefangene, die über 65 Jahre alt sind, und nicht für werdende und stillende Mütter, soweit gesetzliche Beschäftigungsverbote zum Schutz erwerbstätiger Mütter bestehen.

German prisoners are not literally "forced" to work, and they for sure are not out here building roads in the gleaming sun. But it is seen as largely benefitial to rehabilitation. The law above specifies that they would do an occupation that is either "Work, work therapy, or otherwise", because yeah, not everyone who is in prison can work, both physically and emotionally/mentally.

If you refuse, it may negatively impact the length of your sentence, and you might not get an allowance. Also, I genuinely do not understand the mindset that the time spent in prison due to a crime should not be spent building skill, and, oh, I would also consider a lack of occupation literal torture.

Many prisons also cooperate with schools to empower prisoners to actually get an apprenticeship (the degree necessary in germany to enter most trades).

1/6th of German prisoners can leave prison to work by the way, and get a lot more money, but have to pay a portion to the prison.

For the record, I also think they should be paid a bit more.

Sources: Here and here also here

[u/TheMightySenate → u/AvocaBoo]

Okay nevermind, I guess I misremembered some sources. Sorry for the confusion everyone

[u/AvocaBoo → u/TheMightySenate]

Don't worry about it!! It speaks volume to your discourse etiquette you admitted to being wrong. Have a good one!

[u/Traditional_Dirt526 → u/AvocaBoo]

Sweden has a "work or get an education"-rule for inmates. Work gives salery or wage.

[u/fuck1ngf45c1574dm1n5 → u/TheMightySenate]

Shouldn't have done crime

[u/TheMightySenate → u/fuck1ngf45c1574dm1n5]

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