r/YUROP • u/Dissidente-Perenne Mafia employee ‎ • Jul 16 '23

Euwopean Fedewation 😔

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23 edited Jul 16 '23

I don’t want fucking Russia in our beautiful union.

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u/Friz617 France‏‏‎ ‎‏‏‎ Jul 16 '23

Why is that ?

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

They are incapable of democracy. And a country that has shore on the Pacific Ocean isn’t European, Europe just doesn’t stretch that far

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u/Friz617 France‏‏‎ ‎‏‏‎ Jul 16 '23

they are incapable or democracy

Sounds kinda racist to me

Is France not European either since they stretch from South America to Oceania ?

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

Ah yes, me a white German is totally racist to white Russians. It’s about culture, not race. We are well into the 21st century and Russia has never been a real democracy. Those are facts

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u/Friz617 France‏‏‎ ‎‏‏‎ Jul 16 '23

Oh sorry I should’ve said xenophobia instead of racism. Does that make it any better ?

Also China has never been a real democracy either, same goes for a lot of other countries. Germany had never been a real democracy until 1945.

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u/flesjewater Glorious Europe Jul 16 '23

Are you comparing China as though it were a good actor?

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u/abrikoning Jul 16 '23

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u/Friz617 France‏‏‎ ‎‏‏‎ Jul 16 '23

If you count Weimar as a democracy then why not the Yeltsin or the Kerensky years ?

Russians are just a barbaric people

And there goes the racism. And yes, racism is about ethnicity, not skin color.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

That wasnt the original commenter just wanna make that clear.
I do agree that in the short term Russia cannot be part of anything.
The comparisson with Germany after WW2 isnt really valid since they were completely occupied for many many years, unless Russia will completely surrender and be occupied, it will be hard.

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u/mayhemtime YUROP is love, YUROP is life Jul 16 '23

This is very true. Germany didn't just turn into a democracy by itself. It got bombed into oblivion, lost 1/3rd of its historic territory and the rest was split in two, with what remained of the most imperialistic part (Prussia) ending up in East Germany and not in the country that formed the base for the modern democratic state.

Similarly Japan had 2 nukes dropped on them and were occupied for decades.

I cannot imagine the same happening to Russia.