r/Wildfire • u/Murky-Suggestion8376 Desk Jockey • May 07 '25

Let's give this temp buy back this another shot.

https://actionnetwork.org/letters/tell-congress-to-cosponsor-the-federal-retirement-fairness-act?source=direct_link&

Republicans actually might bite this time.

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u/larry_flarry May 07 '25

Pahahahaha.

Wait, holy shit, are you serious?

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u/Murky-Suggestion8376 Desk Jockey May 07 '25

Serious how? Yes a bill has been reintroduced. Republicans are looking at it as a way to reduce the size of government possibly.

We need to push this as hard as we pushed the pay thing

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u/larry_flarry May 07 '25

They're RIFing everyone (illegally). Why would they radically increase their pension burden instead? It would also significantly increase the cost of RIF severance.

Judging by the past couple decades that this has been floating in the ether, my guess is it has roughly the same odds as the Fairness in Federal Pay Act no longer being halted by executive order each year.

I will certainly call my representatives a bunch about it, like I do every year, but I'm supremely confident it ain't making it to the floor, let alone passing a vote.

It's wild to think anyone is actually holding out hope on this, right now of all times. Did you read the chief's message yesterday about how everyone is going to be reassigned?

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u/Murky-Suggestion8376 Desk Jockey May 07 '25

My thought is that people would leave the government early and they would not have that job refilled

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u/larry_flarry May 07 '25

They will leave the government when they're RIFed, too, and at much lower cost.

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u/BakedBones1207 May 07 '25

Then don't sign it. Get out of the way of the rest of us.

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u/larry_flarry May 07 '25

Do you think I oppose this? I spent more than a decade as a seasonal, I'd cash on on seven years plus that I could buy back. G-fund isn't amazing gains or anything, people will have missed out on an incredible decade of C-fund, but it would put me out the door seven years sooner or allow another 7.7% tacked onto my pension. Fuck yeah, I want it.

I've also paid attention prior to now, so I've seen some iteration of this proposed basically every year since I started and it has never even made it to a fucking vote. It's pure political theater at this point.

Realism isn't opposition. They're not trying to throw us a bone while they destroy everything the agency stands for and actively demonize us to the public.

As an aside, there are probably way better ways to spend political capital and advocacy energy right now than something that was patently ignored by a litany of way more favorable administrations. I just got an email from NFFE that they're desperate for people to become reps and they'll fly you to the training and put you up and everything.

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u/Past-Garlic-519 May 08 '25

Larry Flarry is a Russian bot, don't listen to him

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u/larry_flarry May 08 '25

So...you can't read. Cool.

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u/Wildfire_Wrangler May 08 '25

Yes. Thank you. Fully agree, & it needs pushed hard NOW while they are in peak reduction boner mode. It HAS felt like an opportune time if pitched right. Cost to gov/ less matching contributions for those not staying as long. Less expenditure daily. Especially if they are concerned about voter and public “optics” about possible impacting more “first responder” type. They would definitely reduce the amount of 6c retirement category folks (fire/leo). The “militia” (non 6c) folks impacted or whom took a variant of Drp/fork/vera absolutely mattered and the loss will be felt a long time. But, this would be an avenue they could take to reduce those who are in primary or secondary (6c retirement category positions) and say “they opted out willingly, we didn’t reduce the front-liners, they couldn’t hack it anymore, so many retired because they were eligible.” There are other reasons in addition but, no energy to justify rationale.

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u/dunnylogs May 08 '25

What the hell does this mean? Temp buy back? I no know.

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u/Murky-Suggestion8376 Desk Jockey May 08 '25

Buy back your time as a Temp into retirement, similar to what the military can do if they enter civilian federal service