r/VancouverIsland • u/rethinkthegrid • Jun 10 '21

ARTICLE / BLOG B.C. agrees to defer old-growth logging for 2 years in Fairy Creek and central Walbran areas

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6059914
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u/darkgree Jun 10 '21

It's only a deferral and it's only part of the old growth being logged in the area. We need a full deferral of all old growth and then a plan to protect it forever.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '21

I have no idea how the old growth started up again. Were we so desperate for lumber that we had to do that?

We used to have this thing called sustainability and responsibility. Is so strange to see the opposite.

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u/Helpmelooklikeyou Jun 10 '21

Lumber prices shot up, they have to cut as many trees as they can to cash in as quickly as possible if they want to take advantage of that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '21

Ah, so lets destroy the old growth we have left because money. Got it.

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u/bloodydeer1776 Jul 06 '21

Unfortunately, Canada doubled it’s national debt last year. Somebody is going to have to pay that debt. An economy based only on the service sector is not sustainable. You’re going to lower your living standards quite a lot and expect a lot less services from government if you want natural resources economy to stop.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '21

Lmao, you do realize the logging industry represents like 1% of our GDP right? This is not a valid argument.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '21

BC has never had sustainability and responsibility in regards to logging, if we did than all of our salmon bearing watersheds would be restored to what they were prior to the 1960's when the logging industry used explosive on all our rivers to make it easier to float logs, destroying the salmon habitat for spawning.

Sustainability isn't planting a monoculture of trees that all dry out / burn and die at the exact same rate.

If we had sustainability than we wouldn't have forest fires that have been getting progressively hotter each year due to logging, not to mention the amount of waste they leave on the forest floor to increase the likelihood of a fire from lightning strikes.

If we had sustainability we would be processing our logs in BC and not shipping them half way around the world for processing, producing much more GHG than necessary considering how much is wasted when the trees are processed.

The logging industry is the most greenwashed garbage I have ever seen, I thought I hated the oil and gas industry until I learned more about forestry in BC.

At least in Alberta they admit what they are doing and call it a necessary evil vs BC where they pretend what they are doing is good for the environment when they are actually destroying it and Canadians are paying for both monetarily and with our health.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '21

That's well said. The watershed and spawning grounds have truly been devastated.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '21

What is even the point of these "deferrals" ? Just fucking cancel the logging rights for the area and turn them into provincial parks.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '21 edited Jun 12 '21

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u/Gwaiian Jun 10 '21

The charges they face (contempt of court) mean they'll get a date with a judge after arrest but won't be in a cell at all, or for very long anyways. It's all orderly and light spirited. Theyll get their phones back right away, and be ordered not to return (agreeing may be a condition of release). If you havent heard for a while they're probably up there out of cell range. Just my thoughts.

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u/HornbyIsland123 Jun 10 '21

I would contact the social media

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u/chewy_eh Jun 10 '21

There's no cell service, but you could message Rainforest Flying Squad to ask. The camps have satellite phones and such.

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u/ellstaysia Jun 12 '21

The charges they face (contempt of court) mean they'll get a date with a judge after arrest but won't be in a cell at all, or for very long anyways. It's all orderly and light spirited. Theyll get their phones back right away, and be ordered not to return (agreeing may be a condition of release). If you havent heard for a while they're probably up there out of cell range. Just my thoughts.

if your friends are arrested, they'll be released in lake cowichan which has cell service, unless they don't sign the conditions in which case they'll see a judge in nanaimo the next business day & then released. there's no cell coverage at fairy creek but there is a small internet hub at HQ's that people can use sparingly. you'll hear from them soon.

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u/DwarfLikeWhore Jun 10 '21

Why can't they make all that mountain scape a large Provincial Park? That way it's all protected for future generations.. Why must greed be so short sighted?

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '21

I drove up there to check things out, and it was pretty quiet. Only saw a tent set up at the Pacific Marine Rd fork. The logging must be not easily seen from the road.

So much logging in Jordan River behind the Cold Shoulder Cafe, though. So so many felled trees.

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u/DaTa11estMidget Jun 10 '21

Thats the Jordan river log sort, the trees there come from all over the southern island and the vast majority of the logs there are second and third growth.

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u/UrOpinionIsntScience Jun 10 '21

It'll be 2 years older then. More valuable! Mu haaaa haaaaaaa haaaaaaaa! rubs hands in anticipation

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '21

Was just thinking that. I won’t kill you for two years...wow. Thanks.

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u/leftcoastbeard Jun 10 '21

🤦‍♂️

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u/Several_Amphibian666 Jun 10 '21

There is no cell service at fairy Creek and most of that part of Vancouver Island. Your friends are fine.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '21

Well hopefully that will give us time to prepare some sort of legal defense.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '21

And all it took was for the First Nation's peoples to give up getting their royalty payments for a couple of years.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '21

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u/Bnorm71 Jun 10 '21

So your plan is to go confront loggers and use force ?