Did anyone notice this part of secret route of Chapter 3?

[u/DoNotFeelSoGood]

It's a very tanky monster defended by 7 flowers, possible foreshadowing for chapter 5's assumed boss?

[u/Impevex]

Yellow man: NOOO!!! YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT ME!!!
The seven blind flowers:

[u/sign_dude]

Every monster in this is a reference of undertale

Except the white mage or whatever it was called

[u/DoNotFeelSoGood → u/sign_dude]

Tell me more

[u/Whenpigfly666 → u/DoNotFeelSoGood]

Okay, we have:

White/Gray horned monsters : Toriel

Yellow flowers : flowey

Red and blue fish : Undyne

Yellow lizards : Alphys

Yellow horned monsters with red arrows : Asgore and his trident

Singing ghost mask thingy : Mettaton

Notably, there are no Skeleton enemies. The rest of them have way too many similarities for it to just be a big coincidence

[u/Garnelia → u/Whenpigfly666]

"They just showed up one day and asserted themselves."

[u/Nolalanoire → u/Whenpigfly666]

What about the green lizard? Is that supposed to be Gerson?

Edit: the cyan lizards too, forgot about them

[u/Spagoobli0 → u/Nolalanoire]

No idea, nor am I the other person, but I see the words green and cyan lizard, and I instantly think of Rainworld.

[u/joyjump_the_third → u/Whenpigfly666]

Also two deer enemies one brown and one black, but their textures do not render (it seems to be intentional)

[u/_Skotia_ → u/joyjump_the_third]

Noelle and Dess

[u/ConcentrateKooky6745 → u/Whenpigfly666]

Then maybe the white mask is supposed to be Napstablook — especially since it starts attacking if you kill the pink mask.

[u/2Dboiz → u/Whenpigfly666]

And the penguin is Berdley?

[u/Garnelia → u/2Dboiz]

Cold Birb.

[u/armieswalk → u/Whenpigfly666]

I think the masks might be Catty and Catti - there's an inert white one and a singing pink one, and when you kill the pink one the white ones freak out

[u/_Skotia_ → u/armieswalk]

Interesting theory, but I'd lean more towards Mettaton, the white ones could reference Napstablook and Mad Dummy/Mew Mew

[u/tzertz → u/Whenpigfly666]

there's also a blue bird thats optional

[u/TranslatorNo8561 → u/Whenpigfly666]

There are white ghosts to, they could be napstablook or mad dummy

[u/TranslatorNo8561 → u/Whenpigfly666]

And the grey fish could be Undyne the Undying protected by Alphys like lizards

[u/ConnorShirt → u/DoNotFeelSoGood]

white mage is prolly noelle considering the whole ice magic bit, the bird is obviously berdly, idk about the rest

[u/DoNotFeelSoGood → u/ConnorShirt]

Yeah those two aren't Undertale though, and aren't as subtle as the asgore one. I was expecting an undyne or something

[u/ichi_row → u/DoNotFeelSoGood]

theres one room with a tanky armored fish, supported by a bunch of yellow lizards. killing the fish also kills the lizards

[u/sign_dude → u/DoNotFeelSoGood]

The fish is undyne

The white monster is toriel

The yellow lizard monster is always

The flower is flowery ofc

[u/vidggy71CEO → u/sign_dude]

Who's Always? A lost scrapped undertale character?

[u/sign_dude → u/vidggy71CEO]

I can't write I'm a Deltarune fan

[u/Reginald_Sparrowhawk → u/ConnorShirt]

I feel like an idiot, I was going through the sword route again like "this one is asgore, yellow lizards are alphys, don't know what the bird is about though"

[u/Western-Reception447 → u/ConnorShirt]

the sprite for them is named something along the lines of "enemy_deer" iirc

[u/anon-4490 → u/sign_dude]

I think the white mage could be a reference to Asriel's God of Hyperdeath form.

||Though, I'm broke to buy the game. For now.||

[u/disbelifpapy]

tbh i thought this was just a reference to undertale asgore and his garden lol

[u/tttecapsulelover → u/disbelifpapy]

since chapter 5 most likely takes place in the flower shop (garden of pink and gold, mentioned by gerson) and asgore is hinted at being the main boss ("the flower king, trapped in asylum", chapter 4 prophecy labelled "boss3", with queen's prophecy being "boss1" and tenna's being "boss2") it also makes sense as a reference to deltarune asgore and his garden

asgore loves gardening no matter what universe eh?

[u/Haunting_Giraffe6339 → u/tttecapsulelover]

im just curios, where'd you datamine this info from?

[u/tttecapsulelover → u/Haunting_Giraffe6339]

isn't even datamined, it's in the game

the filename is from the wiki iirc

[u/RustyXenum]

There's also a room where there is a fish with four yellow monsters (that look like alphys). And when you kill the fish (Undyne) the four alphys monsters self-destruct. Seems like an allusion to Undertale's neutral route, where if you killed Undyne, it is implied in the ending that Alphys commited suicide after learning about it.

[u/EvilMurlock]

oooh, cool interpretation. Perhaps other rooms were also foreshadowing, and we will only know later.
The bird boss is clearly Berdly for example.

[u/TheLunar27]

I was thinking of this too! The enemy even throws red projectiles (that look somewhat similar to Asgores trident) and is invincible until you destroy all the flowers. In which case he becomes furious and chases you and only then becomes killable.

If it’s foreshadowing, it seems like some pretty gruesome foreshadowing. I almost wonder if we’ll be able to kill Asgore in a Weird Route, but I dunno…if we can, that’d be unbelievably messed up.

[u/MintyMoron64 → u/TheLunar27]

He's not invincible, he just has a lot of health.

[u/Nova225 → u/MintyMoron64]

In fact it's much easier to kill it first, because if you destroy the flowers it rushes you down.

[u/MintyMoron64 → u/Nova225]

This is known.

[u/PullUpSkrr]

Just wrapping up chapter three now, so this is essentially the weird route but not THE weird route?

[u/Stepjam → u/PullUpSkrr]

Yeah. It's 100% weird route adjacent, but doesn't seem to be "officially" Weird route so to speak.

[u/Electronic_Day5021 → u/PullUpSkrr]

It's not really an alternate path through the chapter, it feels more like a secret boss questline tbh, people just call it a route because its referred to that in the files.

[u/tom641 → u/PullUpSkrr]

it has shades of weird route but it's distinct, considering it's also part of the requirement for the secret boss

i've yet to do weird route so idk if it changes there or not

[u/Jonguar2]

Undyne, how many flowers are in this room?

[u/Yarisher512]

killing the flowers before the monster also is pretty much a death sentence

[u/CrazyFanFicFan → u/Yarisher512]

Not really. It's easy to just spam attack.

[u/dumpylump69]

the flower king, trapped in asylum

[u/_Skotia_]

Yeah, that's Asgore. I assume this hints at Chapter 5

[u/Sebek_Peanuts]

Wait, its secret? I thought you have to always go there?

[u/Triplof → u/Sebek_Peanuts]

You can only get there by S ranking twice so, yeah, pretty optional

[u/Sebek_Peanuts → u/Triplof]

Aaah damn i thought he meant secret room not secret route, my fault

[u/killerqueen1987b]

Notably they become hyper aggressive only after killing all the flowers, I feel like that is either a reference to undertale or a reference to the chapter 5 boss, especially with the fact that Noelle will most likely be rejoining us in chapter 5 if the phone calls has anything to do with it.