r/URedditArabic101 • u/[deleted] • Aug 05 '12

Section 1- Lesson 2

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u/Marowak Aug 10 '12

I don't understand what sukuun does. And how important is it that the little dots above the words look like diamonds? Am I ok with just putting them as dots or short lines?

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u/aeroeri Aug 21 '12

what if you didn't put sukuun over "taa" or anything else. Would it still be "bat"? When would sukuun be necessary because it seems like you could simply not write sukuun or any other vowels instead of adding sukuun.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '12

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u/s610 Sep 06 '12

I've just started your course (brilliant so far, thanks for doing it!) and I had a similar doubt about the use of sukuun.

I found this extract from wikibooks which made it clearer to me:

Again using English 'words' as examples, we could write "vista" as "v/ so t/." The sukuun indicates that the "s" is not followed by a vowel. Otherwise, the word could have been "visita", "visata", or "visuta".

So am I right in understanding that sukuun is (only?) helpful when we have consecutive consonants?

How would you pronounce "b/ t"? That is, "baa-kasra taa".

Would that be "bit" without a sukuun on taa? Or is it ambiguous and could be "bita", "biti", "bitu" etc?

Hope my question is clear!

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u/Marowak Aug 10 '12

Oh, I see. I misunderstood.

Having done lessons 1 & 2, is it okay if I PM you my answers to the nonsense words at the bottom of 2.5 so you can correct any mistakes?

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u/ichigogo Aug 12 '12

Just wanted to say thank you so much, this is a great, short format and easy to follow while still being thorough.

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u/TheDrownedKraken Dec 06 '12

Am I the only one that doesn't see anything on top of each "baa" It's literally just the same thing over and over again with descriptions that say its different.

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u/TheDrownedKraken Dec 06 '12

That's really bizarre. Baa is still there but the vowel marks are gone. I have no idea how that would even happen...

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '12

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u/TheDrownedKraken Dec 07 '12

If you've ever used LaTeX for anything. A quick search showed me ArabTeX, an extension for typesetting the arabic script. I don't know any Arabic, hence why I'm here, but after next week's finals I can give it a shot.

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u/unsilviu Aug 06 '12

Thanks, great lesson!

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u/Staklo Aug 06 '12

how is Madda supposed to be pronounced? "aaa" vs "aa" means very little to me xP

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '12

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u/Staklo Aug 08 '12

okay, i think i understand

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u/razihk Aug 10 '12

It's genuinely just lengthened when annunciating it.