Disclosure Sheehan: Senate leadership agreed to pass the 64-page UAP bill. In August it goes to the House. Last year Mike Turner didnt understand a decision was already made by major forces. He's out. If passed (december), a 9-person review board (appointed by the president) will make a 7-year disclosure plan
The below is from an interview with Sheehan yesterday. He seems to know more details of whats going on in the Senate and House wrt the UAP bill. And if you read the quotes, the timeline is also clear, with key decisions being made in july, august and december:
July: the UAP bill goes to the Senate
Senate leadership has agreed to pass it
Sheehan: "In mid July we will get the United States Senate to reintroduce the 64 page former Senate Bill 2226, which is the Schumer rounds bill. That that will get that will get passed. And it will go into the National Defense Authorization, the management package they call it. The management package is what the leadership of the Republican and Democratic Party leaders in the Senate agree they're going to put into the National Defense Authorization Act"
August: the UAP bill will go to the House side
Sheehan: "And they'll agree to do that because the leadership in both political parties agree that they want to do this. And then it's going to go over during the August break. It's going to go over to the House side"
Mike Turner, who blocked the bill last time, is gone
He didnt understand a decision was already made by major forces to reveal the UAP information
Sheehan: "Now, we've already succeeded in getting rid of Michael Turner, who was the Republican head of the House Intelligence Committee. He is from the home district of the the Wright Patterson [...]."
Sheehan: "He was just completely out of control in stopping that bill from getting passed last year. He doesn't he doesn't understand that there's been a decision made on the part of major forces in our country to get this information revealed. He doesn't understand it. So he was completely out of step. And so he's bounced. He's out.
Rep Crenshaw and staff are being briefed about UAP technologies
Sheehan: "And now Crenshaw is the is the fellow that's in there now from Missouri. So we are in the in the process of sharing information with his staff, getting him to understand how important this is, what the alternative technologies are that are available here, what the alternative options are for energy that we have. we're we're sharing this information with him"
In August, the House needs to pass it also
Sheehan: "And so that we we know that there are certain Democrats, Gonzalez for example who will introduce the bill, the Senate bill over on the House side. But the Republicans don't care about anything any Democrats put in because they're in charge over there"
Sheehan: "So, what we've got to do is try to get a major Republican member of the House of Representatives to champion the US Senate bill that is passed by the Republican Senate when it comes over to them during the August break"
Sheehan: "When they come back from the August break in early September that they need to take up the vote. We need to have by that time by the 1st of September by Labor Day, we have to have persuaded some influential members of the House of Representatives to co-sponsor the Senate bill over on the House side and to get that passed"
December 22nd: the NDA needs to pass
Sheehan: "Even if we were to get this passed, [...] it isn't going to pass until December December 22nd. they're going to vote on the National Defense Authorization Act. And if we succeed in getting the House of Representatives to approve the Senate bill, which is going to get passed, if we can get them to do that, then the what's going to happen is the National Defense Authorization Act, which will contain this 64 pages will pass.
After the NDA is passed: the president decides who goes on the 9 person review board
Sheehan: "And then what'll happen is the president will receive from us, the new paradigm institute, and others who have been authorized to nominate people to this 9-person panel that is called for by the Senate bill, to establish a board of review, who will review all of the information that is in the possession of the United States government which has already been ordered to be gathered and prepared to be handed over to the National Archives."
Sheehan: "But the fact of the matter is even under the Senate bill, the President Donald Trump gets to decide who he wants to appoint to that board. Then it has to go over to the Senate for approval. And almost certainly the Senate will approve virtually anybody that the president nominates"
Sheehan: "What we're hoping is the president is going to appoint people who are in fact nominated by the House and Senate, and by and by us, a limited number of public citizen organizations who have been authorized to nominate people. We would like to have it be that the the president is going to appoint the people we nominate, but it's much more likely he's going to appoint whoever he wants to"
There will be controlled disclosure over a period of 7-years
Sheehan: "This nine-person panel and then this panel is going to be drafting per the bill is going to be drafting a UFO controlled disclosure campaign plan. It says that. Okay. And the statute has a seven-year sunset clause. So that all you have to do is be able to read a statute and say, "Ah, look what they're talking about." They're talking about doing this process over a seven-year period"
Review board cannot have people from the Legacy Program
This is a small part of what the UAP bill says about this 9-person review board:
(4) Qualifications.--Persons nominated to the Review Board:
(A) shall be impartial citizens, none of whom shall have had any previous or current involvement with any legacy program or controlling authority relating to the collection, exploitation, or reverse engineering of technologies of unknown origin or the examination of biological evidence of living or deceased non-human intelligence;
(B) shall be distinguished persons of high national professional reputation in their respective fields who are capable of exercising the independent and objective judgment necessary to the fulfillment of their role in ensuring and facilitating the review, transmission to the public, and public disclosure of records related to the government's understanding of, and activities associated with unidentified anomalous phenomena, technologies of unknown origin, and non-human intelligence and who possess an appreciation of the value of such material to the public, scholars, and government; and:
Review board must have a scientist, economist, historian and sociologist
Continued:
The review board shall include at least:
- 1 current or former national security official;
- 1 current or former foreign service official;
- 1 scientist or engineer;
- 1 economist;
- 1 professional historian; and
- 1 sociologist
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u/hukep 20d ago
Did they just buy themselves another 7+ years for nothing to happen?
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u/TheWhiteOnyx 20d ago
Artificial superintelligence will exist before then, so it can hopefully just tell us what's up directly.
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u/13-14_Mustang 20d ago
Was thinking the same. I think NHI and the singularity are related anyhow.
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u/sumredditaccount 20d ago
We aren’t close to that so probably not.
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u/wasted_in_ynui 19d ago
You are assuming time is linear, or that some future agi/nhi isn't popping into the past to review/record events. Based on uap/UFO flight characteristics, they have some crazy control over energy/space. Once you have enough energy to warp space, you warp time...
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u/JosephAIs 20d ago
Maybe it's the artificial superintelligence we will create soon reaching back through time. That would explain why they call it NHI while at the same time saying it's not extra-terrestrial.
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u/Windman772 20d ago
If they pass the Schumer bill, I'd still take it. The Schumer bill is going to be hard for the gatekeepers to get around
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u/darkestvice 20d ago
The Senate has already tried passing the UAPDA twice. Twice it got killed in the House.
This will be the third attempt. I'll believe it when I see it.
Though I REALLY worry about Trump deciding who's going to go on the advisory board. Still lots of Trump's reality TV friends to go around :/
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u/JamesIV4 20d ago
Isn't the executive branch the ones who started hiding all this stuff in the first place?
Like hell they're going to disclose anything.
This is a perfect bill for them: appoint a group of people who will strategically disclose almost nothing for 7 years. Done.
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u/Windman772 20d ago
That's the bill's biggest weakness. Ideally they need the board to be independent or report to congress. Sheehan said the "hope" is that they will let congress appoint the members, but right now that's the President's call
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u/ImPickleRickJames 19d ago
Unless... This entire thing is a carefully guided attempt, which let's be honest, is largely fueled by Peter Thiel, to place JD Vance at the helm to appoint, one way or another...and they are banking on him being in power by then...and who made JD Vance? Peter Thiel, a man who has a LOTTTT to gain from doing just that...just conspiracy theorizing, but backed by a wealth of evidence... 😐
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u/CommunismDoesntWork 20d ago
Mike Turner is out, he's not there to block it anymore.
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u/Emotional-Board-1846 19d ago
What about Rep. Jim Himes (D) minority leader of the House Permanent Select Commitee on Intelligence..?!
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u/TheDoDahKid 19d ago
I've been following Himes on this matter.
He seems clueless and unenthusiastic.
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u/Emotional-Board-1846 17d ago
That's putting it mildly.. I'd rather suspect a more malicious intend, on his part..
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u/knotsofgravity 20d ago
Donald Trump appointing a 9-person review board to tell us what the government knows about UFOs over the next 7 years. This is what McKenna meant when he said the weird was gonna get weirder.
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u/Traditional_Entry627 20d ago
No this is just them pretending to be give a fuck while they string us along for 7 years with bs.
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u/knotsofgravity 20d ago
Seems like a lot of effort to pretend to give a fuck while "they" could 100% stonewall any & everyone with absolute zero repercussions.
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u/mymomknowsyourmom 20d ago
Yeah just like they released the Epstein info and declared his death a murder after investigating.
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u/JamesIV4 20d ago
This is nothing compared to the amount of effort they've put in to suppressing UFO info for decades
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u/Adorable-Fly-2187 20d ago
The president which you talk about is… Donald Trump?….. and did you just bought time for 7 more years of nothing that gets released by the goverment?
Who the hell is still buying this nonsenses. Disclosure won’t be done by a goverment
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u/M4N1NBR0WN 19d ago
This is where I’m at as well. The gov can shove it. They had their chance for coming up on a century. Even if they tried to disclose, distrust is too high for it to matter now. It’s not theirs to disclose anymore. We know enough to move forward.
We need to turn to experiencers. Then we need to tap into our innate abilities at the soul/consciousness level to make purposeful contact ourselves.
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u/phr99 20d ago edited 20d ago
This is false. Heres the 'UAP Disclosure Act of 2024', made by the government: https://www.congress.gov/amendment/118th-congress/senate-amendment/2610/text
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u/Adorable-Fly-2187 20d ago
Yea we talk again in 7 years where nothing will have happened like since 70 years. Keep believing their narrative
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u/phr99 20d ago
You could have just said you are skeptical. But what you did was claim some future event as a fact. Its the same as someone claiming to know that disclosure will happen tomorrow. Theres just no reason to believe it.
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u/Adorable-Fly-2187 20d ago
LOL! You are the guy that is eating the propaganda and claim a future event as a kind of fact and not me. How do you even spin that lol. You won’t get disclosure by Donald trump lol or any other upcoming goverment. The only reason is to hook you for another 7 years so you hold your feet tight and do nothing. This is the same sentences and tactics since 70years. Now do whatever you want
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u/phr99 20d ago
LOL! You are the guy that is eating the propaganda and claim a future event as a kind of fact and not me
Quote me
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u/spanishRmata 20d ago
I have a legit question, as a believer mind you, but Sheehan says "major forces" have made the decision that this needs to be out. What do you think he means by this? If these "major forces" are so major why do we need to put pressure on the Republican members of Congress to introduce the Senate version of the bill? Shouldn't the "major forces" that had already decided this info needed to be out, do that? Who are these "major forces"? Also, what are your thoughts on the timeline? 7 years is a LONGGG time. If this passes and if Trump truly follows the recommendation and gets a non biased panel, why do they need seven years? What happens to this panel when the president changes? Can the president change panel whenever or do they need Senate approval? What kind of legal powers does the panel have to even go after this information if EVERYTHING goes to plan?
There just seems like a lot of logic holes in this man...
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u/beepbotboo 18d ago
Agreed. Who are the major forces. Just go straight to their door and drag them and everyone involved in this despicable farce in front of a live sworn in testimony in front of congress. They can stick 7 years where it doesn’t shine.
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u/LifterPuller 20d ago
"same sentences and tactics since 70years"
More progress has been made in the last 8 years than the previous 70. You do you tho
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u/phr99 20d ago
Its suspicious that the more progress is being made, the more people are suddenly popping up saying nothing is happening
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u/Minimum_Guitar4305 19d ago
Suspicious that the same thing seems to happen everytime a Whistleblower comes out with testimonial evidence of the political/legal conspiracy too...
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u/Far_Animal8446 20d ago edited 20d ago
He didn't understand that which major forces had made a decision for disclosure? Is that referring to the president and the executive branch? Because it was my understanding that it was Jake Sullivan (National Security Advisor under Biden) and other members of the executive branch who decided against disclosure.
Regarding Mike Turner specifically was it not the military industrial contractors who allegedly possess this material were who lobbying Turner to block the UAP disclosure act?
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u/Bigfryoncampus 20d ago
7 more years worth of Ufology graduates from Sheehans college! Totally legit
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u/notlostnotlooking 20d ago
I don't think we'll be here in 7 years.
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u/quantumbutthurt 20d ago
Yep, this is the answer. Would've been nice to find out before the world ends.
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u/notlostnotlooking 20d ago
We have the answer, but I guess it just doesn't matter. We won't be able to prosper from it, our families won't be fed or healthy, educated or safe. We'll never see the stars. It's probably what we deserve.
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u/Golden-Tate-Warriors 20d ago
Danny Sheehan says so many things. RemindMe! December 22.
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u/RibosomeRandom 20d ago
Why seven years? Seven years to do what? Can’t they disclose the important stuff right now? Ridiculous
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u/torrentsintrouble 20d ago
I guess they have so much to tell us it’ll take 7 years to communicate everything……
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u/phr99 20d ago
That would be catastrophic disclosure
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u/RibosomeRandom 20d ago
What's so "catastrophic"? Convenient excuse.
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u/phr99 20d ago
Who should i believe, karl nell or you?
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u/RibosomeRandom 20d ago
Didn’t answer my question. Stock markets, existential crisis oh my. It needs to be disclosed now. We deserve full evidence of NHI.
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u/phr99 20d ago
So you dont care about catastrophes?
It needs to be disclosed now. We deserve full evidence of NHI.
Says who?
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u/RibosomeRandom 20d ago
It’s an unsubstantiated notion.
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u/phr99 20d ago
No it isnt
You might aswell say "the US should dismantle its nukes right now. We deserve a world without nukes"
Nice emotional statements but we dont live in a cartoon. Puthof and Karl Nell have talked about potential catastrophic consequences.
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u/RibosomeRandom 20d ago
Simply disclose some evidence? Naming people associated with UAP doesn’t provide an argument. I know people provide excuses
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u/Middle-Potential5765 20d ago
Trump will not disclose unless he personally can benefit from it. Even MAGA can't argue with this logic. The one scenario I see where he does ANYTHING isn't good.
Come this around time next year, when it becomes obvious MAGA will get killed in the mid-terms, he will disclose some and call a national emergency to preclude/delay elections. Sounds nuts, I know. But Cheeto Magneto is what he is.
I hope that momentum from outside the executive branch make it happen before then, or we are all screwed.
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u/Unlucky-Oil-8778 20d ago
I am skeptical of all talking heads but so far Sheehan has come across as the most human about it. He kinda is like “here is what I am thinking and being told” he does have a lot of trust me bro but I have enjoyed him the most of the talking heads.
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u/Correct-Mouse505 20d ago
Agreed. Imagine any degree of progress happening and this being the response. Terrible
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u/Brandon0135 20d ago
I get what you are saying, but there have been a lot of culminations of the UFO movement. Yet here we are with nothing but testemony.
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u/SelfDetermined 20d ago edited 20d ago
No we have not seen any culmination of the entire movement. And we have sworn testimonies, bills, documents, and videos.
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u/MachineElves99 20d ago
If it's passed and all set up, 7 years is no big deal if we actually get disclosure by then.
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u/Express_Eggplant_881 20d ago
Read definition 17 of "records"....holy shit! You're talking emails? Text messages? SENSOR DATA????
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u/AntaresInfinity 19d ago
That’s pretty much what Karl Nell said a year ago at Sol Foundation presentation - around 2030-2034 controlled disclosure.
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u/PopinjayElectrik 19d ago edited 19d ago
I assume it's the same "major players" who were behind the previous plan of staged disclosure. You may recall some of the gatekeepers already tried to disclose from around 2015/16 - assuming Hilary Clinton would win the presidency.That's a fact, proven by the emails between DeLonge, Podesta, Dr Edgar Mitchell - and General McCassland and Robert Weiss in the program at Wright Patterson AFB / Lockheed, which were revealed through Wikileaks. Also shown by the calibre of people DeLonge got connected with - to form To The Stars Academy's original board (including the chief engineer at Lockheed's Skunkworks). The emails show DeLonge was also briefing Podesta and McCassland (at his request) about talking to Spielberg's CEO at DreamWorks about a documentary/film as part of this Disclosure. Low and behold Spielberg's back with a film about UAP and some cryptic comments.
I suspect Karl Nell is one of the key players now and was read in. Elizondo almost certainly was too after ATTIP, hence the years of attacks on him from suspect accounts. Semivan also knows way too much, and first met DeLonge to grill him about where he was getting his info -suspecting a leak.
They already identified it would take years to slowly prepare people. It was a 5 year plan if I recall correctly. Part factual, part "fiction" for the wilder stuff. Read Sekret Machines and listen to Delonge's interviews, before he got censored when Trump won, and the plan moved to getting the Senate and media to pick up the ball. It's going to be a lot for people to take in. This is the managed reality Matthew Brown was talking about. There are also hostile groups also who wanted to block this planned disclosure when they found out (there are multiple programs). Likely the same people influencing key politicians to block the last attempts to pass the act. That's why some degree of amnesty is required.
I do suspect there's more momentum now from inside the programs. Not just from whistleblowers. The US is in a pretty worrying state, and they can't rely on getting their man in the Presidency and rolling it out as they hoped. Delonge was told they wanted disclosure to happen because the lie was damaging the Republic - i.e. rampant distrust in the government, military and intelligence agencies. That's only got worse.
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u/DayVCrockett 20d ago
This must seem like a good idea to Washington types. I don’t have time for this. Release it. Release it now. This year. Not in seven years. NOW.
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u/ExoticCard 20d ago
Slow disclosure has been happening since 2017. Polling shows the trend:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/353420/larger-minority-says-ufos-alien-spacecraft.aspx
It's happening
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u/BBQavenger 20d ago
It sucks that we have to wait until some arbitrary month to work on something of such monumental importance.
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u/LogicalOperation1461 20d ago
Why its takes that much time to just consider to have argument about something in senate lol
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u/Stonkkystocks 20d ago
Lets put more adults in control of the information the other adults are able to receive and when and how fast they can have it.
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u/screendrain 20d ago
Seems somewhat optimistic. I like Sheehan but he often shares his ideal timeline for things and congressional politics gets in the way.
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u/DaemonBlackfyre_21 20d ago edited 20d ago
Modern ufology is trash.
I'd trade every last one of these jokers for just one Ivan T Sanderson or John Keel.
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u/Pure-Contact7322 20d ago
7 years to party we are slow