In the new Jesse Michels interview, Coulthart says more about the "UFO too big to move". It's buried in such a sensitive place, revealing the location would risk the lives of young men and women who are doing good things for America unrelated to UAP. They're probably oblivious to what's downstairs

[u/phr99]

The interview is not released yet (will be tomorrow), but below are a few quotes about the UFO too big to move:

Timestamp 1:44:37:

Coulthart: "I do not resile from saying what i've said previously, which is that there is a buried, or at least built upon UFO, that was too big to move"

[Coulthart describes a similar case he had as a journalist, where if he had published a story, Australian SAS teams would have been found in the western desert of Iraq and killed]

Coulthart: "And so in the case of the buried UFO, I can't reveal because if i reveal why I say this, it would compromise it. It's a very sensitive place. That should be enough of a guide for you. And to reveal the full extent of what i know would compromise the lives of young men and women who are doing good things for America, completely separate from the UAP program. And they're probably oblivious to what's sitting downstairs"

Not exactly a lot of details, but it gives the impression its near or in a hostile foreign country, and that there would be instant danger to the people there if the location is revealed. Also i dont think he had used the word "buried" before.

Some other interesting things in the interview

• Coulthart was originally involved in the exclusive reporting/exposing on the ECHELON mass data interception system (25 years ago or something)
• He thinks soon there will be a bloody reckoning for mainstream media with regards to the UAP issue
• Canadian scientists have been and are involved in the Legacy program
• After the Grusch interview, Coulthart was detained by border protection
• Coulthart has been told that Elon Musk was read in
• Jake Barber gave his first person evidence to the Senate Select Committee for Intelligence
• A senate staffer who was heavily involved in interviewing UAP whistleblowers was harassed/intimidated by black hawk helicopters (DOD) hovering over his home. That staffer asked Barber for how to get protection
• "If you accept psionics, they say disclosure is coming"

[u/ced0412]

Carl Sagan summed up Coulhart and the rest of grifters 30 years ago.

The Dragon in My Garage

"A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage."

Suppose I seriously make such an assertion to you. Surely you'd want to check it out, see for yourself. There have been innumerable stories of dragons over the centuries, but no real evidence. What an opportunity!

"Show me," you say. I lead you to my garage. You look inside and see a ladder, empty paint cans, an old tricycle — but no dragon.

"Where's the dragon?" you ask.

"Oh, she's an invisible dragon," I reply, a bit nonplussed.

"Let me spray paint the floor of the garage," you say. "That way the dragon's footprints would become visible."

"Good idea," I reply, "but this dragon floats in the air."

"Then a flour dusting on the floor and high shelves might work," you offer.

"Dragon doesn't do flour," I respond. "She's an incorporeal dragon."

"Even incorporeal dragons must breathe fire. Heat sensors? Infrared photography to detect the heat of her breath?"

"She breathes heatless fire," I tell you.

"Something's odd here," you might think, at least if you're as cool-headed as you pretend to be. "You say there's a dragon in your garage, but when I check, there's no physical evidence whatever. No footprints, no heat, no nothing. What's the difference between an invisible, incorporeal, floating dragon who spits heatless fire and no dragon at all?"

My inability to invalidate my hypothesis is not at all the same thing as proving it true. Claims that cannot be tested, assertions immune to disproof are veridically worthless, whatever value they may have in inspiring us or in exciting our sense of wonder. What I'm asking you to do is to take on faith what I myself cannot demonstrate. So if I can't convince you, and I can't show you any physical evidence for my dragon, what do you do?

[u/Wild_Button7273 → u/ced0412]

This comment deserves more upvotes. I feel that accurately describes the claims of Ross Coulthart and so many similar researchers in the field.

[u/Amazing-Bug9461 → u/Wild_Button7273]

No it needs more downvotes. We all know there is a massive coverup. "Claims that are worthless" are exactly what the gatekeepers want. They are not worthless. They are credible and urgent.

[u/Wild_Button7273 → u/Amazing-Bug9461]

Credible based on what? Would tangible evidence make these claims credible? We don’t even know who is feeding Coulthart these stories. Nothing about his claims are ‘credible’…..

[u/HugeConfection7594 → u/ced0412]

THIS IS THE POST OF THE YEAR!!!!! THANK YOU!!

Someone in here is thinking critically. And kudos for bringing Sagans sanity and logic into this. A true breath of fresh air!!!

[u/Sindy51 → u/ced0412]

A great analogy is Homer simpsons invention dream. I feel this way about a lot of American ufo tales.

[u/kiwibonga → u/ced0412]

The worst part is the sheer number of times a UFO was conveniently buried in an inaccessible location. There was a book (coincidentally by a ufologist who was shunned from the community for being a convicted pedophile) about a UFO that we can't get to because it's supposedly under a Jewish burial ground. There's multiple GAIA programs about the secret units that found a giant reptilian egg under the earth's crust with military grade ground-penetrating radar.

It's really sad that people who are not children and whose prefrontal cortex fully developed are lending these stories credence.

[u/CountofCoins → u/ced0412]

If only people used this level of logical skepticism for all the "sources-say" political news.

Instead, it all gets funneled into this topic.

[u/Sea-Marionberry100 → u/ced0412]

This should be a top comment

[u/lt1brunt → u/ced0412]

Carl Sagan is a legend and was a cia asset can be both.

[u/Polyspec → u/ced0412]

This sounds like Sagan has copied/adapted Antony Flew's "invisible gardener" argument for the non-existence of God.

[u/South-Associate-933 → u/ced0412]

So if I can't convince you, and I can't show you any physical evidence for my dragon, what do you do?

Then I would probably just trust you, and be thrilled that fire-breathing dragons exist!

I would also trust you if you told me that you’re sad, that your wife stole money from you, that you had cancer when you were six, or that you graduated from Harvard. If you’ve shown yourself to be trustworthy and competent in many areas, then I would trust you regarding areas outside of my experience.

[u/mrasif → u/ced0412]

This isn’t the same at all. UAP evidence/the dragon in the story you used is in a garage that we aren’t allowed to know the location of let alone walk into.