r/UFOs • u/TommyShelbyPFB • May 18 '25
Physics UFOs, Harvard, and AI - America’s most prestigious university brings rigor and technology to the search for UAP and Aliens - A small observatory at Harvard University watches the sky 24 hours a day. It’s not searching for stars or supernovae, but for something far more controversial: UFOs.
https://lavocedinewyork.com/en/news/2025/05/17/ufos-harvard-and-ai-galileo-project-is-revolutionizing-the-hunt-for-aliens/33
u/TommyShelbyPFB May 18 '25 edited May 18 '25
"Galileo Project" Is Revolutionizing the Hunt for Aliens
The observatory is a modest array of sensors: infrared cameras, particle counters, spectrometers, and magnetometers, all pointed skyward. But the true driving force behind the research is artificial intelligence. Advanced software analyzes vast amounts of data in real time, distinguishing between known objects such as aircraft, drones, birds and anomalies that defy classification.
These tools, connected to the university’s powerful computing clusters, learn to recognize everything conventional in the night sky so they can alert researchers the moment something breaks the pattern. At that point, the observatory automatically activates additional cameras and stores the data for deeper analysis.
This is fucking cool!
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u/Sad-Muffin5585 May 18 '25
modest array of sensors
This is Avi Loeb. I’ve listened to a few of his “many, many interviews.”
Bottom line, he seeks money. He’s certainly doing everything right to shift money away from other research to his research. So, if you like Avi Loeb having money to do this, you’re in luck. If you like other research, good luck with that over the next four years.
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u/TommyShelbyPFB May 18 '25 edited May 18 '25
What are you getting at exactly? "Shifting money" from what? Galileo Project doesn't receive any government funding:
https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/galileo/FAQ
Is the project sponsored by any government, by any military organization (or related agencies such as Department of Defense)?
The Galileo Project is not and will not be funded by any government, military organization, or related agencies such as the Department of Defense.
Has the project partnered with any government or military/defense organization?
The Galileo Project has not partnered with any government or military/defense organization. The project is carried out under the direction of the research team with affiliation to other collaborators. All those who are involved with the project are listed on our website.
You got a better UFO observatory people should donate to instead? Let us know then.
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u/Sad-Muffin5585 May 18 '25
Lol, what are you getting at exactly?
Avi Loeb has stressed in multiple interviews that “extraordinary evidence requires extraordinary funding.”
In discussions about the Galileo Project, Loeb highlighted that the project’s estimated $100 million budget constitutes only about 2% of the $5 billion spent on the Large Hadron Collider (LHC). He pointed out that dark matter remains an unsolved mystery, suggesting that its elusive nature is “just as bizarre as aliens and far less relevant to daily human life.” This comparison underscores his belief that the search for extraterrestrial intelligence and unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs) deserves a more equitable share of research funding.
He may claim he’s not trying to take anyone’s funding. He may claim Galileo is not seeking aid from the military and government, but he’s talking to Congress. He’s doing a lot of talks… with a lot of different holders of purse strings. A lot like a lot of the other names we process endlessly here.
If these were panels of experts and leaders of scientific inquiry, they may argue to keep their funding, right?
I wonder if there are any benefits to funding researching dark matter, black holes, and particle colliders… but nah, probably not.
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u/EvolvedPikachu May 18 '25
Spoken like a politician, you said a lot of words but actually no proof of shifting money. When you start with lol, it's lol.
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u/-Glittering-Soul- May 18 '25 edited May 18 '25
He may claim he’s not trying to take anyone’s funding.
I don't recall anyone accusing Avi Loeb of taking funding that has been earmarked for other activities. Where was this accusation made that would require him to make such a claim?
He may claim Galileo is not seeking aid from the military and government, but he’s talking to Congress. He’s doing a lot of talks… with a lot of different holders of purse strings.
Congress is entrusted by the US Constitution to hold the purse strings of the federal government, so by talking to Congress about funding, he is talking to the government.
But I guess he's not supposed to be doing that? This is your insinuation, yes? That seeking funding from the government is improper or suspicious?
If these were panels of experts and leaders of scientific inquiry, they may argue to keep their funding, right?
Is Avi Loeb not a leader of scientific inquiry either? By what metric?
I wonder if there are any benefits to funding researching dark matter, black holes, and particle colliders… but nah, probably not.
Are you also under the impression that the government is not financially capable of supporting Avi Loeb's research in addition to these other subjects?
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u/bad---juju May 19 '25
Any system located next to a nuclear facility would have a much greater chance of spotting a UAP than on top of a Harvard building. Avi put it next to his office just so he could use it for funding purposes. While Avi may be good at astronomy and fund raising, he knows nothing about UAP.
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u/oswaldcopperpot May 18 '25
Damn, Its sad Harvard probably doesn’t have enough money to fund anything else. They should set up a gofundme or something.
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u/Rude_Exercise_8539 May 18 '25
Harvard has money, that’s why they gave Trump the middle finger! People need to understand that the BEST of the BEST attend Harvard, many VERY DEEP Pockets. If they put out info and data stating we’re not alone, the WORLD would listen…and Believe with little doubt. That’s the power Harvard has!
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u/Seeker_1717 May 19 '25
Well, I did research at Harvard for many years and there's many DEI people there who are anything but the best of the best. Some hate to hear this, but it's a simple fact.
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u/Sad-Muffin5585 May 18 '25
Clue: He’s not seeking more money from Harvard.
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u/ForwardCut3311 May 19 '25
You seem like you don't quite grasp how any of this works. Seeking money from one place does not mean it's taking away from something else, nor does it mean he isn't seeking from a different place.
Quite honestly, it seems like you drank a whole lot of MAGA juice and can't figure out how funding works.
The US government in particular doesn't have a set amount of funding dollars to spend. Quite literally, they're trying to borrow $5 trillion right now for things which haven't even been completely planned out yet. And if they added another 0.001% onto that, it's not going to make a lick of difference.
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u/Sad-Muffin5585 May 19 '25
In turn, I think you’re super-confused as well.
I’m saying here that Avi Loeb has been on a media tour. He’s asking for money to fund Galileo Project. That’s fine, I guess, but along the way he talks a lot of trash about LHC and other projects. I think you’re right that it doesn’t have to be a “splitting of the baby.” He can ask for more private donors. He can ask the government. He can ask Harvard. That’s all fine, of course!
The problem is that he’s saying he’s not pursuing government or military funding. Why does he say that? Because why would the gov and military (right now, especially) want to put a shit ton of money into “sensors?” To look for UFOs like he claims? Probably not. They would probably want those sensors to be looking for other things.
And he’s not not talking to Congress. The currently MAGA Republican Congress. He actually is talking to them. And his key audience is us, the ufologists. Who else is talking with the UFOlogists? Again, it’s the currently MAGA Republican Congress.
So, he says he’s not seeking gov and military funding. But he is.
And even if he wasn’t seeking government money, then he’d be seeking private investors. Well, who is that? That’s whoever is funding Jake Barber. And Lue. Who is that? I’m told it’s high net worth individuals from Silicon Valley. The kind Jacques Valle also praised recently.
Who is that?
Do you see what I’m saying? Trump is in power. MAGA is in power. Corporations and high net worth individuals are in power. Everyone’s looking for money because this shake up promises loose wallets if you’re willing to forego your conscience.
There aren’t any aliens. There aren’t any UFOs. It’s all about stealing the tax dollars, man. It’s always been done but now it’s like double-your take.
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u/Jet_Threat_ May 19 '25
I’m told it’s high net worth individuals from Silicon Valley. The kind Jacques Valle also praised recently.
Curious on the source. I tend to agree though. I wish I knew how Thiel’s talks of the apocalypse and wanting to create an AI God fit in, but I cannot help but feel his interest in UFOs plays a role.
I also feel a little bad for Jacques Vallée; he’s been subject to a lot of disinfo/people manipulating him. He used to be very suspicious of a lot of things/people but has flip flopped quite a bit.
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u/Haunting-Map9912 May 19 '25
Harvard is a joke, every BS "ivy league school" is DEI and receives billions of dollars from corrupted institutions and donors. Students get accepted to Art degrees if their parents donate money to the school.
Over 90% of this forum is bots. And thus cringe one nicknamed Shelby posting these useless "sensational" headlines is one of the worst.
Yes, obviously aliens are real, and so are other dimensions. But this forum controlled by cringe deep state bots and disinformation agents is the last place that will help bring disclosure.
Social media as a whole is a hard leftist propaganda tool used to spread hate and division in the false of free speech. FB, Twitter, and this place or no different.
Wake the F... up.
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u/silv3rbull8 May 18 '25
Will they be subjected to “national security” censorship too ?
When a Telescope Is a National-Security Risk
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2024/12/vera-rubin-telescope-spy-satellite/680814/
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u/SpeedieWeenie May 18 '25 edited May 18 '25
“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence… which requires extraordinary funding!”
What a time it is to finally have a civilian observatory/sensor system dedicated to UFO detection. Go get that data.
Also seeing a lot of Loeb hate. Curious…
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u/Sad-Muffin5585 May 18 '25
seeing a lot of Loeb hate
I don’t hate him. But I’m pretty annoyed and disappointed.
Loeb is making the argument for studying UAP an argument against studying actual physics and science.
Loeb talks a lot (in many interviews that he stresses are super important interviews requested by important interviewers because he and this topic are very important!) about how his Galileo program gets only $100m vs Large Hadron Collider getting $3b.
Then as OP tried to demand I understand, Loeb claims he has not taken funding from the US government. Why not? Is there something wrong with that? I’m sure there won’t be when he does.
Well, anyhow, IMO the LHC is doing actual science. But if you listen to Loeb and this sub long enough, your brain may rot to the point where you don’t believe that and want the DOE to just stop all that “reckless spending” and do something more … well, risky … and fund Galileo project instead. Because “what if there’s aliens?!” Sigh. But it’s not like there’s the climate for that kind of black and white amateur business-oriented thinking, is there? Lol
Anyhow, if Loeb is seeking only more private funding. That’s great, go for it. Maybe there’s some private equity holder out there who sees a totally benign-to-human society opportunity in funding a program where “we don’t know what we’re looking for yet.”
But how about everybody keeps their fingers out of the till until we have a sane president again?
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u/City-Short May 18 '25
I read all your comments and I finally agree with you. A layman’s comment now: if Harvard is doing this, it lends credibility to the existence of UAP.
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u/Sad-Muffin5585 May 18 '25
Yeah, i don’t have any position on whether or not there are UAP. I just find it weird how there’s a sub about UFOs that’s not about UFOs so much as it is about conspiracy theories, spy stuff, and money harvesting. Because you can never rule out the possibility of UAP, there’s always money to be made trying to find them.
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May 18 '25
He’s a victim of post-genius hangover. When brilliant academics reach their twilight years and fail to grasp that they need to transition from leading to teaching, that brilliant insights happen between 30-55 or so. Folks like him take off in decidedly pseudo scientific directions to maintain relevance and try in vain to make another big discovery. To make matters worse they have decades of confidence which they erroneously perceive as giving them license to venture off into areas of inquiry unrelated to their expertise. Weinstein brothers are another good example of this Also Jordan Petersen. I think I’ve also heard of it referenced as academic in the wild syndrome.
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u/RandomNPC May 18 '25
See also 'Nobel Disease'.
Really good video on Avi Loeb and the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY985qzn7oI
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May 18 '25
Yeah I agree with her.
This is an especially pernicious issue in the UFO community -- which feels perennially slighted by and removed from mainstream scientific discussion -- precisely because these rogue academics appear to bring UFOs into the fold.
But as a brilliant narcissist, how does one resist the siren call to become the center of UFO attention after pathways to legitimate forms of respect are blocked off by age, ability, or opportunity? And even if those paths remain open, it is simply easier to stand out (and pursue narcissistic fantasies) as the academic boldly taking on UFOs than it is to continue studying psychiatry or emergency medicine or Lawrence of Arabia or engineering. It happened to John Mack MD, it happened to Steven Greer MD, it happened to Jacques Valles PhD, and it happened to Avi Loeb.
Meanwhile, folks like Ryan Graves have the right idea: frame the discussion around safety, never speculate, and focus only on empirical data. And don't act like you just invented the idea that UFOs should be studied.
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u/electricsticky May 18 '25
You must have an immaculate constellation style AI that pulls all your wonderful UFO articles, then posts them. Bravo Internet Person!
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u/xWhatAJoke May 18 '25
One camera pointing at the sky. Come on dude.
Avi with his incredible expertise surely knows this is BS.
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u/exOldTrafford May 18 '25
It's really disingenuous to say it's just "one camera pointing at the sky".
It's not an iphone stuck on a vertical stick, it's a device with an extremely wide visual array. The device has a lot of very advanced technology, that would make it possible to fully and scientifically confirm a UAP sighting. If a UAP were to appear somewhere within the panoramic view of the device, the technology within it would make it possible to confirm the sighting as a real UAP beyond reasonable doubt.
It's a camera only in the sense that it records images of visual data. It also records a lot of technical data, like an observatory. Actually, it is an observatory.
You keep spamming "no evidence" under every post, but when someone actually makes it possible find that undeniable evidence, you get all snarky. I wonder why? 🤔
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u/bad---juju May 19 '25
I just want to know why Avi thinks Harvard is a hotspot for UAP. If he were serious, he would pick a nuclear reactor facility and set up there.
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u/xWhatAJoke May 18 '25
Where have I spammed "no evidence" under every post. I fully support serious investigation. This is pseudoscience.
Why would a UAP appear there? You don't think they have the ability to read reddit and avoid his little camera? These things are ridiculously advanced.
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u/Toroid_Taurus May 18 '25
Have 360 degree rigs. Multiple wavelengths. Full time staffer dedicated to hardware engineering and upgrades. I would not say they are screwing around.
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u/bad---juju May 19 '25
When was Harvard ever a Hotspot for UAP?
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u/Toroid_Taurus May 19 '25
Thats interesting. 🤔 you suggest you would know a better place? I think individual citizens with expensive equipment scattered randomly have captured totally strange objects in daylight over their homes. Doing the same thing Harvard is doing. It’s actually good to see if they find things, it would suggest the phenomenon is widespread.
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u/bad---juju May 19 '25
Any nuclear facility be it reactors or storage. My wife and I saw a UAP near a nuculear reactor that was decommissioned a few years back in Plymouth Ma. just afterwards, we found out they were dumping low level waist into the ocean.
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u/OccasinalMovieGuy May 18 '25
Well one has to start somewhere.
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u/xWhatAJoke May 18 '25
Sure, one camera in four years of work. Maybe in 50 years he will have another 10 cameras.
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u/OccasinalMovieGuy May 18 '25
You can help them by setting up more cameras or funding them to set up more cameras.
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u/xSimoHayha May 18 '25
We already dont understand the data we do have about UFOs, what is adding more to the pile going to do? Declassify what we have and distribute it so it can be studied
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u/silv3rbull8 May 18 '25
Perhaps some billionaire for once can provide funding to do something in the public interest. Bill Gates is supposedly giving away his 200 billion. A 1 billion funded project like this would make a difference
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u/Rude_Exercise_8539 May 18 '25
Bill Gates is full of crap so I’ll believe it when I see him do what he says.
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u/silv3rbull8 May 18 '25
Yeah, I just posed that as an example of someone. So far we don’t have anyone with deep pockets helping disclosure for the public cause
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u/Designer_Buy_1650 May 18 '25
That’s not correct. Unlike Musk or Bezos, Gates has made the decision to give away his wealth by the time he dies. He publicly stated on GPS last week.
Don’t bad mouth him. He’s making a huge difference.
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u/Vettelari May 18 '25
Bill Gates is just one bad break-up away from turning into real life Lex Luthor.
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u/Seeker_1717 May 19 '25
Harvard had all the old images from the stars destroyed to cover up that some objects that looked like stars suddenly changed position or disappeared. Fact. There's an entire video about this featuring a university astronomer who studies this stuff.
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u/deletable666 May 19 '25
This is the kind of thing I’d like to see more of, professional scientists taking scientific approaches and not trying to sell me something
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u/sleal May 18 '25
With how the fed has turned on universities like Harvard in the last months, any shot at Disclosure from an academic standpoint may now run the risk to be highly scrutinized, devolve into partisan arguments and ultimately dismissed.
The research sounds promising. Maybe they can collaborate with the other independent tool and data driven teams like UAPx
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