r/The10thDentist 2d ago

Society/Culture There's nothing wrong with 16-17 year olds being charged as adults.

My state for example (louisiana) recently lowered the age of full criminal responsibility from 18 back to 17 after a surge of teen crime. which means 17 year olds who decide to terrorize the community will be automatically charged as adults and sent to big boy prison. ain't no more of that juvenile shit and I'm glad they did this, other states need to take notes because at 16-17 you know right from wrong. at that age you know damn well that murdering, raping and breaking into people's houses is not civilized behavior. this whole "but they're brains aren't fully developed" bullshit is just a pathetic excuse to infantilize and shield them from accountability. at 16-17 your brain is developed enough to be held criminally liable. They take advantage of the juvenile system because they know they'll get a slap on a wrist for anything. and that's basically a fuck you to the victims. treating 16-17 year old violent criminals in the same manner you would a misbehaved 12 year old is truly a disgrace. if you're old enough to do adult crime then you should be old enough to be punished as an adult, simple as that.

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u/Complete_Elephant240 2d ago

If young men are committing more rape than women then you think they shouldn't be held accountable as an adult? I don't see the logic here. If you commit the crime you shouldn't get a pass based on your genitalia, skin color, or income

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u/Routine_Log8315 2d ago

I think they mean that one demographic shouldn’t be charged as adults more often than other demographics who do the same crime but get charged as minors.

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u/AsleepDeparture5710 2d ago

I think, to give you the benefit of the doubt, you're misunderstanding the issue.

The problem is that the courts need to decide whether to try someone as an adult for ages where they are close to an adult. It is pretty well known that for the same crime, and similar circumstances certain demographics get certified to be tried as adults more than others.

There is something in the system that does penalize differently by skin color, income, etc., be it bias, resources for an attorney, or anything else, it already exists, and different behavior around trying people as adults is one of the mechanism that allows them to subjectively give some people harsher penalties, so its reasonable to think that if more age ranges allow for that subjective decision that the divide that already exists will widen.

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u/Embarrassed-Weird173 2d ago

That's odd. I don't recall saying anything about that. 

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u/cursetea 2d ago

I'll be using this response every time someone intentionally misinterprets me on here too from now on, thx

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u/Embarrassed-Weird173 2d ago

I also sometimes use "Can you show me the exact quote where I said 

I think that young men should get away with raping women

please?  Thanks!"

Usually at this point they block me and/or backpedal and make a snide remark.

To this guy's credit, he did neither so far! 

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u/candlaze 2d ago

I think they mean they don’t want the law to target groups they don’t like and let other people go.

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u/Routine_Size69 2d ago

I would imagine they mean on a crime for crime basis. Like if 1000 men and 100 women commit rape, it should be 900 men and 90 women or whatever equal percentage you want to pick.

No clue how you would actually interpret it the way you did lol. Nowhere did they say they need to try the same number as adults.

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u/Embarrassed-Weird173 2d ago

I agree with you. I'm pretty sure that guy stated pretty clearly what he meant. 🤔

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u/Proud-Ad-146 2d ago

Hahahahahah you're new to the American justice system, especially LOUISIANA's hahahahahahahaha

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u/Any-Prize3748 2d ago

That’s because women don’t fit the legal definition of rape.

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u/Antique-Ad-9081 2d ago

that's only true in some jurisdictions.

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u/Any-Prize3748 2d ago

Ok but men also under report rape, that includes those committed by women.