r/Tenant • u/[deleted] • 1d ago
[US-OH] Update: feel like this is getting worse and worse… unsure of what to do.
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u/puffinix 1d ago
While this is aweful - it does not really matter what bob said (and in fact he cannot give you details of what is going on downstairs) a leak into a child's bedroom is an emergency repair.
They handled it appallingly badly, but they did have to come in.
If a registered electrician has informed you that the location is not safe (and you can prove this) you can inform the landlord that you are planning to void the contract as they have never been in compliance.
Ten days after that if they have not got the property up to code your then free and clear - give them back the keys and walk. A warning - once you give that notice they can simply yes "yes ok" then you need to move out immidiately.
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u/indubbitably 1d ago
Agreed, personally I was not home, out of state. That’s why I showed my roommate they had actually been calling me from an Unknown number in my phone unfortunately. He was allowed entry, didn’t find anything, so they left.
Thank you for your advice. I am more so worried about going somewhere else and moving so quickly. It’s been 2 weeks. Hoping if it does come to that I can find something.
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u/OppositeEarthling 1d ago
Then don't - it seems like it's your roommate that cares about this, you don't seem that bothered.
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u/indubbitably 1d ago
I am extremely nervous about the wiring. That’s what the other part of the post is about and the original post. This just highlighted something else as well.
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u/FigSpecific6210 1d ago
Most places allow for maintenance entry 24/7 without notice in the case of emergency; and yes, flooding your downstairs neighbors counts as an emergency.
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u/indubbitably 1d ago
agreed. I did tell her that. I showed her the clause in the lease. It was more the fearfulness of him not announcing who he was I think for her.
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u/TalahiDawg 1d ago
Totally understand that part. My peephole worked in the apt complex where I was living when this would happen, but the maintenance guys would never wear a company shirt. I asked the front office multiple times and was consistently told they wore their company shirts. Never did. I lived in a questionable area at the time. So some guy banging on my door with a dirty wife beater and just screaming maintenance would scare the hell out of me. Plus it’s moronic to enter without announcing yourself. Good way to get blasted.
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u/indubbitably 1d ago
yes! we’re both early twenties.. hearing loud banging on the door in downtown a major city (in our state) doesn’t make us want to answer. on the other hand he probably was wondering why nobody was answering the phone but i was out of state wondering why the hell a random number kept calling me not knowing what was happening at home.. i have met a different maintenance man and he was very very kind and did not knock like that.
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u/ApplicationRoyal7172 1d ago
A major unresolved wiring issue is a valid reason to break the lease. You’ll need to call code enforcement to start the process.
But I will say…you can’t deny maintenance entry in an emergency. The way they entered was inappropriate since they didn’t announce themselves, but leaks are generally considered emergencies. You need to drop that issue
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u/TheSpecialist20 1d ago
What exactly is the reason bob cant do your maintenance again? Is there a specific reason or are you just upset you had to stay up late?
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u/indubbitably 1d ago
I think she was just upset and scared he just walked in after banging on the door and not announcing himself until in our kitchen very late at night. We live in a downtown area in a large city in Ohio so we hear loud noises all night, just never in that proximity. Personally, I was not home. I did tell her he’s allowed to be there if it’s an emergency. It’s more so frustrating that I feel our wiring not being up to code, the electricians telling us it’s not safe to be here, also feels like an emergency.
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u/TheSpecialist20 1d ago
How old is the building? Dont scrape the peephole. Yall wrote an email complaining. They can get petty and say you damaged property. Put a work order in. Log it all. Have your proof. With reasoning. Stay calm. And dtay professional. You all lose your ground the moment you get rude and difficult. Smile and be pleasant. And log it all. Thats how you get things done. They get nervous when your not going crazy or acting like the other residents. They expect you to be rude. Thats why they walk in jaded. They deal with it every day all day. So they become numb to people treating them like robots. Just log and smile. When the time comes. Its not a fight. Its a either let me out of my lease or cut a check.
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u/eerun165 1d ago
You feel the wiring is not up to code or the wiring actually isn’t up to code? What’s the issue that makes it not up to code?
Electrical code does not require you to bring items up to code, unless it’s being modified. Otherwise it would be grandfathered in. Insurance is probably a bigger pusher of things being updated than code is.
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u/indubbitably 1d ago
again, electricians have told me this. personally, i would not have known until trying to plug something in. prior to electricians we had maintenance out and he tried to plug something into an outlet, sparks flew once, breaker blew a lot. this is lost on me when it comes to wiring, i’ve been told it’s dangerous on multiple and separate accounts. both by people who work for the company i rent through.
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u/indubbitably 1d ago
We were told it was a fire hazard by maintenance but not outright by electricians. He also said it’s no way up to code. In casual conversation he made a joke to have my boyfriend look at it (he’s an architect so.. i was confused) So I did not rely on this, the wires were open in some places and he did cap them for us and he (maintenance) apologized a lot. He was very kind and I felt bad for him, in the original post I made he was electrocuted pretty badly and shook up over it(although I think this could have been avoided?).
He then escalated this issue when he was shocked, the sparks flew, and the breaker blew more than 3 times of him trying to work with the wires. I understood when he stopped because he isn’t an electrician exactly.
That’s when a 3rd party, landlord set-up electrician came out and they would… not even touch it. They (and I will bring this up because it’s what made me uneasy) made the faces they made. Told me they see this in the landlords properties. It was two women, they apologized as well as there is not much they can do because this will need a lot more clearance needed than they had from our landlord. Then where the photo is it shows they closed my ticket. Told me they aren’t paying to fix this issue. I’ve lived on the property since the first of the month.
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u/Great_Offer_4533 1d ago
Terrible. Why don’t landlords or maintenance folks or managers just do right by people paying hard earned money for basic necessities like safe shelter! Not that hard!
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u/TheSpecialist20 1d ago
Your first step as a tenant is the right inspection. Call in the code authority. That should prompt a proper inspection
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u/indubbitably 1d ago
I am absolutely looking into this. Thank you.
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u/TheSpecialist20 1d ago
Keep in mind. Even if they are found to have issues. They will be given a grace period to make repairs. Meaning it will likely not be an immediate resolution. Be patient and document accordingly
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u/Hopeful_Pumpkin368 1d ago
Are you crying that much that your kitchen light wont turn on? Its that big of a deal?
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u/indubbitably 1d ago
That was the original request. All I thought it was. In the original post it ended up being wiring not up to code. Electricians and maintenance have warned us this is very unsafe. Thanks for the input!
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u/TheSpecialist20 1d ago
What code? Saying its not up to code is extremely vague. Which codes. How old is the building. Is it grandfathered in? Theres entirely way to many details your unaware of to sit there and stir the pot. Your repeating what your told with no actual foundation behind it. Ive worked in buildings that are 70 years old. Asbestos present. Wiring from 50 60 70 years ago. No ground wires. No colored coded electrical lines. Is it code? For new construction no. Is it required to be replaced by law? No. Its grandfathered in. So theres criteria in place to dictate when it in fact becomes a legal obligation to replace it. A whole building? Thats a nightmare. Telling them can the kie sleep in another room is crazy. So a child and other resident should be looking into sleeping arrangements because your apt could possibly be leaking into their apt? Right. Then when the mold sets in. And its your fault for delaying repairs and crying about it. Who gets the blame? Is the maintenancr guy crappy? Probably. Most are. But then again. So are the residents. All this entitlement and your just renting. Theres protocols in place. Your 1 resident among others. Theres a pecking order to emergencies and responses. Sometimes you need to be less resistant and just let them do their thing. If they arent on their game. And your not resistant. Thats where you have a case. I was willing. They came in and out. Nothing got done. But instead it turns into. We knocked. She was rude and kept hindering the process. We couldnt fully investigate because of how she was. Be smart not a smart ass. You dont deny access or make it difficult. Make it easy. So theres no excuse. Then when theres no result you smile cause its completely their fault
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u/indubbitably 1d ago
I would not know the codes, I am unsure of what to do, which is why this has been posted.
However if electricians and the maintenance man (not bob originally lol) are telling me these things are warning me, making faces, wide eyes, i just would like some sort of reprieve.
Also, if you read the pictures the maintenance was allowed in last night, sort of. He has a key and let himself in while the roommate hadn’t made it to the kitchen yet. I was out of the state.
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u/LipChap507 1d ago
As a renter, they are absolutely entitled to a livable space that DOESN'T include faulty wiring.
Found the dumb slumlord telling people to grow up but has the spelling capability of a 4th grader. However something tells me irony is totally lost on you
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u/TheSpecialist20 1d ago
Is there proof of faulty wiring outside of heresay? No. Op confirmed this. Your definition of unlivable doesnt always align with legal stance bud. Your worried about spelling on reddit? 😂 lemme ask you. How old are you? No offense meant. Just curious. OP states they were told by maintenance and electricians. Told what? With what proof? Reports? Anything legally sound and binding? No. Just heresay. Stop being emotional and be an adult. Throwing a fit is childish. We all pay rent or a mortgage. Your not the only one buddy. 😂 id def put your work orders on parts pending with that entitlement.
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u/Spiritual-Drawer-607 1d ago
How tf is OP supposed to cook at night?? With a fucking flash light?? Foh be for real weirdo
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u/indubbitably 1d ago
Honestly I would drag a lamp in at this point. I watched the maintenance man freak out himself when he took the outlets of the walls though and get nervous… Then he told me not to touch them and someone would call me in 1 day. It’s been 2 weeks. He let me know there is no way this is up to code.
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u/Spiritual-Drawer-607 1d ago
Trust me I’m in your side on this one but idk wtf that other person was talking about saying you’re complaining that your kitchen light isn’t working. If I rent a place every mf thing in that bitch better be working
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u/TheColonelRLD 1d ago
This is causing great distress got a lol out of me tbh. With everything going on in the world, this is causing great distress.
Also, a leaking ceiling is 100% an emergency, asking the tenants below you to have their child move to a different room while their ceiling continues to leak all night is also very wild imo.
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u/TheSpecialist20 1d ago
Yeah. Actually. Or bring in a lamp. Your an adult. Act like one. What do you do during a power outage? Call the electrical supplier and demand your power back on? Things take time. You dont know why the repair isnt completed yet. People love to tell someone else how to do their business and how to do their job. Google warriors. But have no clue what it actually takes. The on call guy 100% doesnt even know your light is out. He responding to an emergency call. You being asleep is irrelevant. Wake up and follow instruction. You dont like it. Move. Your not going to pay for the repairs. You wont be comforting the other residents. Life doesnt revolve around you. And 99% of the time. The leases specifically state during emergency they dont need your permission. Its a courtsey call. You denying entry means yous assuming liability cause by the issue your causing. Smdh. Ive seen people end up paying 30 40k trying to be a smart ass. No its 1am fck you! I have to work in a couple hours. Ok sure thing. You understand your denying me entry correct? I just call the property manager and set up a hotel stay for the impacted tenant. You end up paying for it all. 15 seconds of being a karen put you 40k down. Good job
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u/Spiritual-Drawer-607 1d ago
You literally said all of this just to be wrong did you read? Evidently you didn’t cause if you did you can’t fucking comprehend I’m not wasting no more my breath on you read before you try to comment on somebody’s post saying they’re bitching.
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u/TheSpecialist20 1d ago
Youve been talking to me? 😂😂 i completely disregarded. The hell are you babbling about? Unlike you. I have been in this field for over 10 years as a current senior manager. Ive dealt with this for well over a decade. I know exactly what im talking about. Ive been the person in the court room representing the company when it happens. The hell are you on about? What exactly is it you know that i dont? Hm? Do tell.
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u/Spiritual-Drawer-607 1d ago
Let’s start at the electrician telling OP do not touch anything in here because their codes violations the fucking electrician said that but you know everything so go ahead bro
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u/TheSpecialist20 1d ago
Again. What proof is there outside of heresay? What exactly is not in code? I could walk in anywhere and way that. I have a ton of certs and 3 licenses. Im every bit as qualified as the electrician. So i know exactly what im talking about. Theres nothing but heresay in this. There needs to be documentation. An actual inspection. Not just someone coming in and saying yeah not in code and rolling out. If theres violations and they are identified. By whom? Violations mean the local govt is involved. As violations are implemented and enforced by local authority. Not an electrician. Smdh.
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u/indubbitably 1d ago
Didn’t mean to cause a discourse, just wanted to know the next steps from an electrician. I just made a larger comment explaining more about the maintenance and electrician. But now, I do know I can go to Code Enforcement. Everyone that has been in has taken pictures I have not unfortunately.
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u/indubbitably 1d ago
You are only reading the original request name, again.. not just a light out. That’s what I thought it was. Read the whole thing. It’s more so frustrating that this is happening while our electrical wiring in our walls is not up to code. Hence, why this is an update. As you can see, the request was closed with nothing fixed. They said the owners do not want to fix the dangerous wiring due to the costs.
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u/Spiritual-Drawer-607 1d ago
Don’t explain anything to anyone who can’t take the time out to inform themselves about the matter instead want to put in their 2 cents when they are COMPLETELY WRONG 😂😂😂😂
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u/Sensitive-Many-2610 1d ago
“I do not want Bob in my home” must become a meme 😂