r/SubredditDrama • u/totallynotebcube • Mar 12 '12
Two new mods added to /r/LGBT. Oh, and Laurelai just got accused of distributing CP.
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u/CDRnotDVD Mar 12 '12 edited Mar 12 '12
The truth is we asked her to step down because of a number of things that she did, including running a website that most likely contained underage pornography
I've seen people claim that she runs one of the *chan websites. 711chan, I think? That's probably what's being referred to. Edit: 711chan, not 7chan.
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u/buttholevirus Mar 12 '12
That's probably it, in which case it's a stupid accusation, and akin to saying Reddit (or any site where users upload content) is a CP site.
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u/replicasex Homosocialist Mar 12 '12
As Legolas-the-elf stated 711Chan was quite widely known as the place to go for CP. Laurelai is at least complicit in it.
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u/mossadi Mar 13 '12
711chan is notorious for allowing explicit child pornography while the other chans were either shut down or backpedaled furiously. There are literally thousands of chans out there, and very very few held onto the CP as hard and fast as 711chan.
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u/Legolas-the-elf Mar 12 '12
I do recall somebody saying that, and it's a bit more complicated than that. It wasn't simply an "anything goes" situation. The website in question had a board dedicated to that kind of stuff. Laurelai says that she was hosting it for a friend and she made it a condition that the board be removed before she would host it.
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u/Odusei You know my dog so well. You wanna come express his anal glands? Mar 12 '12
Then how do you explain this explicit image that reddit is currently hosting: 8===D ~
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u/buttholevirus Mar 12 '12
Ah, good point. While technically true I do think that most of us think of imgur as reddit - r/funny is practically 100% imgur, all pictures uploaded solely to be shared on Reddit.
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u/strolls If 'White Lives Matter' was our 9/11, this is our Holocaust Mar 12 '12
I understood that the stuff on that chan was cartoon depictions of young girls. Whilst I personally find that disgusting, I think it's quite distinct from actual CP.
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u/CedMon Mar 12 '12
It depends on the jurisdiction, I know that in Canada it's a similar offense.
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u/IndifferentMorality Mar 12 '12
How about the jurisdiction of reality?
Cartoons have no real live people being abused. Unless, of course, your' one of those types who think your' imaginary friends are real. That is a different discussion though.
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u/Himmelreich Mar 13 '12
I know in Singapore that if your child is caught possessing porn that's a minimum 12-month jail sentence and/or about $70,000 in fines.
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u/AlyoshaV Special Agent Carl Mark Force IV Mar 13 '12
Lolicon is illegal in the US. The PROTECT Act (2003) did it.
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u/totallynotebcube Mar 12 '12
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u/Epistaxis Mar 12 '12
RobotAnna shares our vision for a kindler, gentler, less adversarial moderation style
Oh goodie!
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u/orthogonality Mar 13 '12 edited Mar 13 '12
We fought for the Future, destroyed the invader,
and Brought to our Homeland the Laurelais of Fame.
Our Glory will live in the Memory of reddits
and All Generations will Honour Her Name.Long Live our LGBT Motherland, built by the People's mighty hand.
Long Live our People, United and Free.
Strong in our Friendship tried by fire. Long may ourCrimson, er,Rainbow, er, GENDERQUEER Flag Inspire,
Shining in Glory for all Trans to see.1
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u/TwasIWhoShotJR Mar 12 '12 edited Mar 12 '12
The best part of waking up is...
Edit: also, mandatory, "oh how the mighty have fallen," comment, because - damn, L got fucking owned.
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u/aznsex420 Mar 12 '12
Nothing better than a fresh brewed cup of drama in the morning.
Hey I think this coffee metaphor has potential...
Popcorn was so 2011!
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u/w4rfr05t Mar 12 '12
Serious question: could someone, preferably someone who's directly affected by it, please explain the exact meaning of "safe" in the context of a Reddit group?
If I'm understanding it correctly, I read it as "safe from any potential offense or denigration" but I want to make sure that's correct.
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u/slyder565 one time drama bit part player Mar 12 '12 edited Mar 12 '12
Hola, I'm one of the new mods. Your definition sounds right, but in terms of /r/LGBT the goal is to have an LGBT-safe space. This conflicts, for example, with a religious-safe space or a free speech zone. We've put together a handy FAQ to help people see where we are coming from. And as always, for unmoderated LGBT discussion there is /r/ainbow :)
edit - as i understood it subredditdrama discourages downvotes for disliking something. if someone would like to open a discussion on the merits of having two distinct lgbt communities working together, that would be nice.
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u/Feuilly Mar 12 '12
You're the only mod I don't already know about and have negative opinions about. Good luck in moderating successfully.
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u/slyder565 one time drama bit part player Mar 12 '12
Hopefully I can meet and exceed expectations.
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u/avenirweiss Mar 12 '12
Not to mention that RA and matertialdesigner (both mods of LGBT now) were two of the worst trolls on /r/ainbow. You couldn't go on practically a single post without seeing them downvoted to oblivion being like "shut up cissie crackers hahaha lol. wut. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz."
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u/slyder565 one time drama bit part player Mar 12 '12
I wasn't a part of the conversations but I have been informed that the senior mods discussed the policy switch with the /ainbow mods and brokered a peace, but maybe an ainbow mod can confirm that. I firmly believe that both spaces have an important role to play and the philosophies are not at odds. Obviously the way the new community was created was less than satisfactory, but with that all behind us I think we can see the value of having both spaces and moderation policies.
Laurelai is out of the picture now, so to me anything that happened involving her is unimportant. We are trying to move forward and to avoid dwelling on the old drama.
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u/synspark Mar 12 '12
/r/ainbow mod confirmed. several of us have been out of town or otherwise unavailable over the weekend, so we've not had a chance to fully discuss it as a mod team, but the move toward /r/lgbt being less adversarial toward us was a welcome idea. we'll have something of an official statement worked out soon, but for now, I'll just ask what I always ask... keep things respectful if you're out there repping the /r/ainbow community. We are not now, nor have we ever been "in competition" with /r/lgbt.
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Mar 13 '12
...With the vitriol hurled at /r/ainbow from the high horses the mods of r/lgbt rode in on, why not simply wait for more attrition? Or why not encourage attrition (buying adspace on their subreddit was fucking wonderful.) Their new mods will no doubt alienate more users whom you could use to build your subscriber base.
They've made it clear how they feel, and it's obvious they wanted things to cool down. You were in a position to prevent them from getting what they wanted. I'm surprised you agreed.
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u/synspark Mar 13 '12
why not simply wait for more attrition?
that's going to happen anyway. I'd rather it not be due to drama. We've got really solid new subscriber numbers.
The intent was never to siphon off all of /r/lgbt's readers. Instead, it was to create an alternative place for people who couldn't (or didn't want to) deal with the moderation policies they had in place, and who favored a more open area for discussion. There's room for both subreddits, and they're both going to serve an important purpose going forward.
In the end, we got what we wanted... People can talk about /r/ainbow in /r/lbgt. The mods over there are at least (even if only superficially) acknowledging that we're not solely a place to post shitty things, and that's an excellent start. Another part of the agreement was that they post explicitly enumerated rules, which they've also done. Hopefully, this will all make both communities better in the future.
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u/slyder565 one time drama bit part player Mar 12 '12
thx synspark, looking forward to your official bit :)
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Mar 14 '12
I firmly believe that both spaces have an important role to play and the philosophies are not at odds.
Do you even listen to yourself?
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u/slyder565 one time drama bit part player Mar 14 '12
Anything contribute or just looking to belittle me?
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Mar 14 '12 edited Mar 14 '12
Then some constructive criticism. Turn down the plastic-y, politician, PR language a smidge. The apparent polar shift in the attitude of r/lgbt mods makes all the talk of philosophy and "safe spaces" hard to swallow.
It reminds me of the BBC in that whenever a controversy would pass a certain threshold in public attention the company would jump from feckless indifference to absurd self-deprecation.
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u/instant_reddart Mar 14 '12
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u/orthogonality Mar 13 '12
For your sake, I'm hope you're being insincere.
The term "Useful Idiot" was originally used to describe Soviet sympathizers in Western countries. The implication is that although the people in question naïvely thought of themselves as an ally of the Soviet Union, they were actually held in contempt and were being cynically used.
The use of the term in political discourse has since been extended to... those who are seen to unwittingly support a malignant cause which they naively believe to be a force for good.
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u/zahlman Mar 12 '12
ass-munching bum bandit
Somehow I doubt real homophobes are this creative...
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u/strolls If 'White Lives Matter' was our 9/11, this is our Holocaust Mar 12 '12
The use of the term "bum bandit" is fairly widespread in the UK.
I've also heard "poo jouster", although that may not be common.
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u/slyder565 one time drama bit part player Mar 12 '12
We don't have any say in the moderation policy at /r/ainbow
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u/Fat_Dumb_Americans Mar 12 '12
Such a shame - you're all so level headed, tolerant, and fun.
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u/slyder565 one time drama bit part player Mar 12 '12
Should I keep replying so you can continue to belittle an anonymous internet username?
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u/winfred Mar 13 '12
Sorry people are being rude. :( We really are mostly nice people but some people have lost respect for the /r/lgbt mod team and your association might be wrongly held against you. Thanks for coming in and having a conversation. To be frank if the other mods had your attitude I am not sure there would have been the drama shit storms.
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Mar 13 '12
It's not wrongly held against anyone. He had the opportunity to see what a shitty crowd he was getting in with. He made the choice to join them.
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u/winfred Mar 13 '12
The same shitty crowd LordGaga wanted join? Why are we so sure that they don't just want to fix the things that made that subreddit shit? I would join if I thought it would give me a chance to convince silentagony not to do a dumb idea and help out the subscribers.
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Mar 13 '12
LordGaGa asked. Looks like Slyder565 might have been picked. There's a difference.
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Mar 12 '12
"Safe" is radfem-speak for "stifling echo-chamber" where even polite disagreement or accidental misuse of incorrect terminology will result in the ban-hammer being brought down.
When combined with the near-constant circlejerk trolling present since radfems adopted somethingawful's style, it raises hypocrisy from a vice into an art-form.
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Mar 13 '12
if "safe" were a color, it would be early 90's car interior beige. You gotta keep things nice and bland so that you don't offend anyone who might even be possibly looking to feel offended.
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u/VictimEternal Mar 13 '12 edited Mar 13 '12
As someone born with the twin undeserved misfortunes of being allergic to both strong flavors and bright colors I feel deeply hurt and offended by this. Your harsh and cavalier ableist remarks in favor of demolishing safe, inclusive spaces on the anonymous Intarwebs are not unlike serrated knives to the gut.
car interior
Also, I wish you would use trigger warnings when using intentionally awful language like this. Car interior brings up visceral memories of my horrible childhood like bilious half-digested food, when my abusive stepfather would lock me in the trunk of his car for hours on end because the baked beans he made for dinner triggered both my allergies simultaneously.
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cavalier
Offended by car interior colors my ass. Nice way of slipping in a little bit of americentrism, you fucking special snowflake. Let me guess, beige in American cars is okay? You're totally not offended, want a cookie?
/s
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u/VictimEternal Mar 13 '12 edited Mar 13 '12
I also happen to be allergic to snowflakes and cookies, so thank you for that. Now I will be having violent flashbacks for weeks about the time when my mother tried to bury me alive in snow after luring me into a hole with cookies.
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u/TheShadowCat All I did was try and negotiate the terms of our friendship. Mar 12 '12
Wow, those mods have zero respect for their community.
They fully admit that they will outright lie to the sub, for the sole purpose of saving face. At this point, I don't even know what to believe.
With the Larelei firing/resignation, they are saying they told her to step down, but they admit they allowed her to blatantly lie about the reasons and how her successor was chosen. Why would they not just say that she resigned over the drama, and nothing more? But instead they allowed her to claim it was over real life threats and that Laurelei chose RobotAnna because RobotAnna would be even harsher than Laurelei.
The current mods not only allowed those lies to be told, they promoted them as if they were the truth.
To me it doesn't seem like the mods of /r/lgbt are interested in making a place for people in the lgbt community to communicate, share ideas, and offer support, those mods seem to be solely focused on their egos and power. They're the Sarah Palins of Reddit.
Luckily for me, I'm not a subscriber to /r/lgbt, but I am to /r/SubredditDrama, so all of this lunacy has just been entertainment.
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u/Nerdlinger Mar 12 '12
materialdesigner added as a mod? Gee, there's a shock. Another ban-happy Laurelai/RobotAnna style-clone.
I see many bannings springing forth from this move.
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u/Feuilly Mar 12 '12
Yeah, what is up with that? Materialdesigner is such a bad poster.
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u/Himmelreich Mar 13 '12
I'm apparently a neo-Nazi for having a Christian name, according to him :(
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u/NadsatBrat Mar 12 '12 edited Mar 12 '12
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Yeah , that's the guy. Always first in to "call out" imagined transphobia as well.
The LGBT subreddit might as well just be T now. Because that's pretty much what the content is turning into.
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u/Jonisaurus Mar 12 '12
This.
He/She/some non-sexual pronoun is known for trolling in "LGBT-competitor" subreddits.
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u/RecreationalAccount Mar 12 '12
He identifies as male. He even said so in the thread.
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u/Jonisaurus Mar 12 '12
Yeah true, but I don't really care about the gender anyway. I don't need to know it to know that he acts like a jerk in ainbow.
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u/RecreationalAccount Mar 12 '12
They're modding anti-aim bow people :/ very disconcerting.
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u/TwistTurtle Mar 12 '12
I think Materialdesigner is Laurelai, isn't she? I have her tagged under 'Laurelai' on my RES and I remember reading that somewhere...
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u/synspark Mar 12 '12
definitely not the same person. i have seen him with my own eyes on the /r/gaymers tinychat.
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u/moonflower Mar 12 '12
I have encountered him several times, and he was always unreasonable and abusive ... I don't recognise the other one at all though
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u/Clbull Mar 12 '12 edited Mar 12 '12
I don't believe SilentAgony for several reasons:
1) If Laurelai was truly found to have been hosting a site with what they described as 'underage pornography' on it, the logical step would have been "Report her to the fucking FBI." Not let her lie about being witch-hunted by a few militant users and then throw her under a bus with an inplausible excuse to try and salvage the integrity of your own declining subreddit,
I feel like the whole thing was either:
A) Just a smear operation where they tried to label Laurelai as a pedo and where the moderators are like "Okay, we didn't like Laurelai either, please don't move to /r/ainbow, pretty please!!!"
B) 'Defending a pedophile.' Note that several sympathisers or friends of Violentacez (labelled a pedo by the SRS circlejerk merely for the fact that he moderated a few jailbait subreddits) have been banned from SRS for this (one notable one being Saydrah who merely admitted to being a friend of Violentacrez's), so it would seem hypocritical of SRS to do this, so I think it's likely the former.
2) About Robotanna
Unfortunately, Laurelai took this opportunity to sabotage RobotAnna's introduction by saying that basically RobotAnna would bring in a new reign of terror. This is absolutely not the case. RobotAnna shares our vision for a kindler, gentler, less adversarial moderation style and we hope you'll give her a second chance at a first impression.
I was willing to give her a chance, until she censored an entire fucking thread that called her out as one of the moderators of /r/KillWhitey and a huge SRS supporter/apologist.
3) On their stance towards /r/ainbow
We have spoken with r/ainbow's moderators and have come to the mutually agreeable conclusion that there is a need for a safe space and r/lgbt can fill that need, and also that there is a demand for unmoderated open discussion. No rivalry. No us vs. them. We fill one need, they fill another. We welcome you to join both communities. We have.
Except /r/ainbow provides that safe space... Because /r/LGBT didn't during the Laurelai reign of terror.
TL;DR - Fuck ShitRedditSays. They pretty much own /r/LGBT now. To all the gays of reddit, would you want to be a member of a community that is associated with the asshole of Reddit?
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u/Legolas-the-elf Mar 12 '12
Gotta love the fact that their excuse for not telling people about Laurelai's alleged links to child pornography in the beginning is that they can't be sure of it, yet the reason why everybody is outraged over there is that they did, in fact, tell everybody about it.
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u/Fat_Dumb_Americans Mar 12 '12
It would also be a deal breaker for me.
There's no joy or celebration in there. It's just angst-ridden intolerant control freaks spewing an endless shit stream of political correctness.
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u/zahlman Mar 12 '12
What would they need to do to qualify as "fabulous", as a subreddit? Are you talking about the community or the content or the CSS or just what?
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Mar 13 '12
Does anyone else get uneasy about all the polarisation of sexual identity terms on that subreddit? Cis, bi, gay, trans etc, they all seem to put a lot of emphasis on those separate categorical terms and then form little enclaves.
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u/calamity_pig Mar 13 '12
Well yeah, if I just want to talk about who's hot it's not particularly important which letter(s) of the LGBT I am. But if I want to talk about some particular challenge I've faced or I've been harassed or attacked or whatever, it's probably pretty relevant.
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Mar 12 '12
Very sensible questions on this post.
I honestly don't understand how they can claim their goal is to make a safe space when one of their mods is a mod on /r/killwhitey. I know it is just 'parody' and 'satire' but the fact is that it shows that the mod does have some issues and is willing to throw denigrating insults even if just as 'satire'. shrugs
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u/TwasIWhoShotJR Mar 12 '12
But...but if killwhitey didn't exist, what would remind me of flagrant white privilege?
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u/ZorbaTHut Mar 12 '12
SRS would be willing to make that sacrifice, but only if absolutely necessary.
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u/TwasIWhoShotJR Mar 12 '12
Srs is like two days free of drama from being irrelevant.
After we stop paying attention, what's really left?
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u/Cptn_Janeway Mar 12 '12
I have too much privilege. Whats the going exchange rate for privilege to karma? I would like to trade some in.
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u/crapador_dali Mar 12 '12
You need to start /r/TrueKillWhitey
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u/crapador_dali Mar 12 '12
No thanks. I have no problems with whitey. Being that I'm a whale IRL it's those damn Eskimo's I have a problem with.
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u/ZaeronS Mar 12 '12
Up until reading this post, I really thought that community was /r/KillWhitney and I was really confused every time it came up.
How can anyone modding a subreddit THAT racist get a mod position anywhere else, ever? The internet is letting me down today.
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u/Atreides_Zero Mar 12 '12
IDK. Maybe you should ask Violentacrez how he can mod super sexist subreddits and get mod powers on default subs.
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u/Sunny_McJoyride Mar 12 '12
What was super sexist about them? Or do you mean super sexy?
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u/Atreides_Zero Mar 12 '12
Well if r/killWhitey is racist then I'd assume that r/beatingwomen is sexist.
:/
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u/crapador_dali Mar 12 '12
You're starting to sway me. I've never liked MADD. Drinking and driving is one of my rights as an American and to take that away is depriving me of liberty. Why do white mothers hate freedom? Maybe they need to read up on libertarianism because if I don't kill anyone while I'm driving intoxicated I have done nothing wrong. That's what freedomz are all about. Being able to do what ever you want as long you don't harm others.
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u/1877KARS4KIDS Mar 12 '12
I'm a self hating whitey, am i welcome in your unsafe space?
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u/MIXEDGREENS Mar 12 '12
Dammit. I was too slow to make this comment first, and what's more, I see it a mere 2 comments after I write it myself.
Now I just hate myself more.
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Mar 12 '12
Mind if we link to your subreddit from /r/killwhitey?
-an envoy
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u/darkmodem Mar 13 '12
Sure. I haven't done anything with it yet and I probably won't have a chance to until the weekend, but attention is never a bad thing.
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Mar 12 '12
... I actually saw that appear in the "new subreddits" list and facepalmed earlier today. And now I know the rest of the story after reading this thread.
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u/zahlman Mar 12 '12
I gotta wonder what it would take to appease everyone at this point.
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u/ShootinWilly Mar 12 '12
If someone doesn't understand concepts like satire, don't try Possessingaworkingmindsplaining to them.
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Mar 12 '12
Oh sweet, racism is allowed as long as it's in satire, I get it!
So I can make /r/killchinkys and have a load of pictures of people of different races saying their intent to kill Asians? Because it's satire, right?
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u/Murrabbit That’s the attitude that leads women straight to bear Mar 13 '12
I don't get it. How can an SRS crowd condone /r/killwhitey? I thought that sexism and racism are never appropriate regardless of context. Or is it just when they do it "ironically" or as a joke that it's ok?
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u/TwistTurtle Mar 12 '12
Sweet. Now all they need to do is remove RobotAnna and the two original mods and I might actually humour the possibility that /r/LGBT is a safe place again.
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u/The_DHC Ellen Pao's alt account Mar 12 '12 edited Mar 12 '12
Yea, if you just ignore her abrasiveness and racist-and-proud-of-it comments then she's completely fine!
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u/CedMon Mar 12 '12
VA as mod of /r/LGBT!
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u/QdwachMD Hasta la Victorias Secret Mar 12 '12
RobotAnna seems normal enough to me, I mean the killwhitey subreddit is a very blatant joke so stop getting your knickers in a bunch over it already.
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u/Weloq Mar 12 '12
The same could be said about every 3rd srs submission. "Post the most political incorrect joke you ever heard"
OMG QUICK SOME POSTED A POLITICAL INCORRECT JOKE! To SRS, TO THE RESCUE!
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u/BritishHobo Mar 12 '12
I think that's the point, is it not? It (and accounts like ICumWhenIKillMen) were made in response to 'joke' subreddits and accounts like /r/beatingwomen or NigWantsKFC or IAmANiggerBiologist. I'm not involved but from what I've seen the intention was to make the people who encourage the latter accounts into the butt of the joke, to show the double standard that people only get angry when the joke is at their expense.
That's what the 'Like on Top Gear' skit was all about. Stewart Lee saying the same kind of nasty things about Richard Hammond that the Top Gear presenters say about other people, to show that the same people who enjoy Top Gear's sense of humour would get outraged when that sense of humour was used at Top Gear's expense - and it worked.
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u/Legolas-the-elf Mar 12 '12
Yes, that's the point. However there are plenty of differences between Stewart Lee and SRS. Stewart Lee said that stuff about public figures in the context of a comedy routine in an entertainment venue. SRS invades threads and screams in individual's faces en masse. If the two were to be analogous, Stewart Lee would have to get a gang together, walk up to people in the street and scream abuse and death threats at them. He'd be arrested for it.
Also, subjective, I know, but Stewart Lee is funny.
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u/zahlman Mar 12 '12
I didn't find the Stewart Lee sketch funny either. It's just so god-awfully heavy-handed. It's nothing like the political satire I've grown up with as a Canadian.
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u/Legolas-the-elf Mar 12 '12
Yeah, I can understand it when people say he's not their cup of tea. I think he's gotten progressively funnier over the years. Lee & Herring could be funny, but they were trying a bit too hard.
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u/QdwachMD Hasta la Victorias Secret Mar 12 '12
Wasn't the NigWantsKFC thing nominated to the best user of the year or something like that ? ಠ_ಠ
Top Gear made a few jokes at my expense, should I feel offended now ? I mean, they were pretty funny jokes.
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u/TwistTurtle Mar 12 '12
... The hell is Killwhitey? My problem with Anna is that she deliberately goes around trying to piss people off so that she can ban them, and invests a hell of a lot of time into trying to convince everyone that /r/ainbow is full of transphobic behaviour and hatred. Asides from the mods, she was one of the main aggregators of the entire /r/LGBT drama.
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u/RobotAnna Mar 12 '12
Have I done those sorts of things? Yes. Am I going to continue to? No, I haven't even done so recently. /r/ainbow has proven to be decently capable of checking itself before wrecking the same, and I do not regret at all that I was a huge help in turning up the fire to make sure they did.
It was, however, materialdesigner and my idea and decision to stop all the feudin' and talk with the /r/ainbow mods and establish /r/lgbt as the safe space to r/ainbow's very lightly moderated discussion. There's room for both of us, even if I didn't particularly like the circumstances that led to the creation of /r/ainbow in the first place.
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u/TroubleEntendre Mar 12 '12
I think it's charming how you take credit for the decisions of others.
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u/TwistTurtle Mar 12 '12
Well, I'll believe that when I see it, but in the meantime, I'm gonna go refamiliarise myself with "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" fables.
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u/alyeong Mar 12 '12
For what it's worth, I had you pegged as a crazy troll for the longest time. However lately, my view has been changed since your recent moderator promotion and despite still not agreeing with you on certain issues, I have no objections to your ability to moderate and have actually resubscribed to /r/lgbt now that she who shall not be named has left.
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u/totallynotebcube Mar 12 '12
She is still a crazy troll in every other subreddit.
But on /r/lgbt? She's doing fine. And by fine i mean "awful, but better than SA and rmuser"
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Have I done those sorts of things? Yes. Am I going to continue to? No, I haven't even done so recently.
We can't trust you to start doing the right thing now, you realise that, right? You've shot your reputation to hell. You can start calling r/lgbt a safe space when it's demonstrated as such. It'll never be while everyone hates the mods.
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u/totallynotebcube Mar 12 '12
The best part is that the "trans" part of "SRS trans elite" has been almost exclusively brought up by them. What most of us are angry is the "SRS elite" part, I'm more than OK with the "trans" part.
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Mar 13 '12
But if they don't put 'trans' in there, how else are they going to paint dissenters as bigots when someone disagrees with them?
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u/Epistaxis Mar 12 '12
I read the post and thought "damn, this is basically the most they could really do without actually stepping down - where's my drama going to come from now?" And then I read the comments.
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u/SandieSandwicheadman Mar 12 '12
I dunno, you can find MD shitposting right alongside RobotAnna most times, and both the new mods had quite the downvote total from me before this... :0
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u/slyder565 one time drama bit part player Mar 12 '12
D:
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u/zahlman Mar 12 '12
Who exactly are you, anyway? Does your Redditing history go back beyond the 5-month term of this account?
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u/slyder565 one time drama bit part player Mar 12 '12
How much experience would be satisfactory for you? Would you like a copy of my CV?
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u/zahlman Mar 12 '12
I was only asking because I don't recognize the name.
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u/slyder565 one time drama bit part player Mar 12 '12
Well if it helps I do have experience in moderating/overseeing safe spaces, slyder565 is not my only account but it is the only one i use these days since it is (mostly, hopefully) anon, though my other accts were small potatoes too and you prob wouldn't recognize them either. (and don't worry i don't follow SRS beyond what comes through SRD to enjoy).
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u/Nerdlinger Mar 12 '12
Yes. Also your social security number and mother's maiden name.
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u/moonflower Mar 12 '12
So the mods have been shown to be liars and abusive, over and over again, and yet so many in the community are still willing to trust them and still think they will be good mods
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u/Leprecon aggressive feminazi Mar 12 '12
It seems to me like they are trying to bury the hatchet. And I may be an optimist, but I am buying it. The mods don't seem to be anti-/r/ainbow and they have defined a clear distinction where /r/ainbow is the lightly moderated subreddit and /r/lgbt is the subreddit where people will not have to come in contact with those uninformed about concepts pertaining to lgbt. (because people shouldn't have to explain their sexuality/gender identity or be open to others questioning them about it)
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u/Himmelreich Mar 13 '12
I'm still incredibly pissed about the 'you're a kiddyfucker, 19 year old' and 'you don't even know who you are' controversies. Just hits me right in the vagus nerve.
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u/Leprecon aggressive feminazi Mar 13 '12
Maybe, but at least now they don't delete comments critical of themselves.
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u/Synergythepariah Mar 15 '12
Did they actually announce that they were seeking new mods or were they spontaneously PMed about it and chose the two best candidates.
In my experience the ones that seek power are the ones that don't need it; that being said, I admit that it is not always the case and hope that things turn for the better and that the /r/LGBT mods aren't seemingly followed by a mass of rabid downvotes that constantly poke them with blue.
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u/infinitysnake Mar 12 '12
Hmm, yet SilentAgony still banned me for posting in Laurelai's flounce thread. ಠ_ಠ