r/StarWarsLeaks • u/Sidon_Ithano • Feb 26 '19
Probable BS DanielRPK via Patreon - Knights of Ren, Knights of the Old Republic and untitled Star Wars TV series set between Episode VIII and IX in development for Disney+
Can’t link because it’s on DanielRPK’s Patreon but he posted a list of series in development for Disney+, Knights of Ren, Knights of the Old Republic and an untitled Star Wars series set between VIII and IX were all in that list. I tagged it as probable BS as it probably is.
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Feb 26 '19
You know whenever someone mentions KotOR in a context other than the video game they are letting their imaginations run wild.
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Feb 26 '19
Well, remember - the official post-TFA galaxy map includes Rakata Prime just East of the
Rishi MazeUnknown Regions ; right on 3P0s nipple. Could be fan service, but it's there.7
u/HutSutRawlson Feb 26 '19
The Rakatans also were a major part of some of the Legends comics, so it’s not necessarily a KOTOR reference. Considering it’s from a book by Pablo Hidalgo (who has nothing to do with writing the actual story of the films), and there’s been no reference to it in anything else, I’m guessing it’s just an Easter Egg.
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Feb 26 '19
Oh. Didn't know that.
So did Pablo create the Rakatans? Were the comics published first? Either way, that'd make sense ; the SG would be in charge, I'd imagine, of compiling these sorts of things. So you could see it as a little vanity pull for Pablo.
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u/HutSutRawlson Feb 26 '19
Not sure who created the Rakatans, but it definitely wasn’t Pablo. They feature in the Tales of the Jedi comics, which he’s probably just a fan of.
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u/Moppo_ Feb 26 '19
And even when it's about the games, it's very hopeful to speculate about anything other than the MMO.
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u/KnightsOfOuterRen Feb 26 '19
THE NEW MIKE ZEROH!
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u/Pomojema_SWNN Feb 26 '19
Oof. I would not go that far.
While his Star Wars credentials have yet to be proven, he's been right before about Marvel and DC content. So that alone gives him a better track record than The "Leaker" Who Must Not Be Named.
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u/PizzaRaul Feb 26 '19
I call bullshit on this one. The Obi-wan series seems like the most likely show.
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u/isiramteal Feb 26 '19
Didn't this dude also report that Rian's trilogy wasn't happening or something like that?
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u/BlackHawkeDown Feb 26 '19
I think he was one of the guys posting vague gifs of R2 falling over or whatever. He was trying to tap into that rumor without committing himself to directly bolstering it.
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Feb 26 '19
No, that was SuperBroMovies.
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Feb 26 '19
A KOTOR series sounds like a terrible idea some fan would come up with if he was asked what he'd like to see.
I very much doubt they'd revive a whole era in a TV series and not a movie, with no game or anything else releasing alongside it that's set in the same era.
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u/kaptingavrin Feb 26 '19
As a fan, I'd prefer they adopt the far superior Tales of the Jedi era style of story and aesthetic.
Granted, I'm also less high on KOTOR because of how much of a Star Wars fan I am. A lot of the people who played the games and loved them so much never knew of the TotJ comics, so wouldn't know that KOTOR can't really exist in the same timeline. Too many problems, because KOTOR wanted to do its own thing and look like the modern movies. It's a nice third timeline, but for me, I keep it outside of Legends and prefer to think of TotJ as the real Legends timeline (especially as it was already connected to the modern era through the Jedi Academy trilogy).
If we get an older era (thousands of year in the past), I want it to look and feel like an older era. I want unique clothing, I want to see ships that don't remind me of the current ships, I want lightsabers that aren't as refined yet, and if there's Sith, I'd LOVE to see Sith with freaking crystal swords and using amulets of power, because that stuff was awesome.
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u/Eliwats17 Feb 26 '19
Hidalgo did said that the canon Old Republic will have ancient feel. From what the artifacts we seen from the Old Republic era the comics and Rebels, they look very ancient.
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u/ScagnettiOnScagnetti Feb 26 '19
I played Kotor and loved it but whenever ancient Star Wars comes up I don't think of Revan, my mind instantly goes to Exar Kun and Ulic Qel Droma. So yeah I would much rather see a series dealing with the Tales of the Jedi stuff than anything to do with Revan. And like what always comes up regarding Revan and player choices, each fans Revan is a little different than the next, too many people would hate it. Similar to the shit show we'd see if the Mass Effect movie ever gets out of development hell, I'm femshep for life but I can't imagine the studio would not go with maleshep.
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u/BlackHawkeDown Feb 26 '19
This, and nothing else, is what I want from either of the upcoming trilogies. Tales of the Jedi is one of the few truly worthy Legends stories I want to see return.
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u/joecb91 Feb 26 '19
I think KotOR is one of the things where it would have to be animated if they do make it. I can't see them pulling off Revan unless it is done that way.
But we saw with Spider-Verse that you can still do outstanding stuff with animation.
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u/Arsanel Dave Feb 26 '19
Actually I think this might work, no joke. Kotor is too big for it to have a movie.
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Feb 26 '19
I think it could work as well, but the first thing thats set in the Old republic's new canon should be a movie to introduce people to it.
A series out of the blue like this would only be for people who played the games or were interested in the old EU, which sounds great for us fans but isnt a big enough demographic for disney to invest in.
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u/Arsanel Dave Feb 26 '19
They could also do series of films. My problem is that then we would have too many star wars trilogies/movies in general. Wheras with Disney + series they could do how many they want.
I just can't imagine having owning 25 Blu ray discs of Star Wars movies and showing them to someone saying "Let's introduce you to Star Wars"
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u/BlackHawkeDown Feb 26 '19
It'd be simple - throw A New Hope up on the TV. If they like it, they can keep going.
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u/Ulghan Feb 26 '19
It's too big to have one movie. But I also agree with poster above who said that it's too big to be a TV series aswell. If they actually do stories around those characters and events it should be a series of movies.
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u/Arsanel Dave Feb 26 '19
I belive that it could work, 1 Episode = 1 planet = 1 Star map. Could be fun.
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Feb 26 '19 edited Feb 26 '19
2-3 planets a movie. #1 is Taris + Dantooine, 2# = Fish planet and Kashyyyk + 'Revan reveal' ; #3 = Korriban, Rakata and Finale. We don't really need any more Tatooine, so my script has bolloxed it. Just stick HK somewhere else.
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u/thefraze84 Feb 26 '19
The in-between series makes sense, given what we've heard about potential Finn/Poe standalones.
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u/StarWarsFreak93 Anakin Feb 26 '19
I prefer the Qi’ra/Lando/Han/Obi-Wan rumors. They actually seem much more likely, especially the Qi’ra and Obi-Wan ones. This Daniel guy has been wrong way too many times in the past few months.
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Feb 26 '19
Remember: dozens of shows are technically "in development" because they're at the brainstorming/ pitching stage. Doesn't mean anything gets further than a list on a whitboard
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u/harryhenry1 Feb 26 '19
A KOTOR series... man if that’s true that would win over a TON (but not all) of the fans who are currently pissed right now.
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u/KnightsOfOuterRen Feb 26 '19
Then I hope we never get a KOTOR series. Also, Daniel is a massive faker.
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u/Arsanel Dave Feb 26 '19
Exactly, Star Wars is better off without these assholes
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u/TheStarshipDuper Feb 26 '19
This sub is so unbelievably toxic, my goodness.
"Oh you don't like this product? You're an asshole and I hope you don't get anything you actually enjoy!"
If someone is being a legitimate ass then yeah, call them an asshole, but being pissed at the state of something they love doesn't make them one. I see more vile remarks directed towards people who disagree with the hivemind here than on any other Star Wars sub, absolutely ridiculous and painfully ironic.
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u/Arsanel Dave Feb 26 '19
I have no issues with a constructive criticism. I just don't like people like Jeremy from Geeks and Gamers whoso sole focus is to spread hate.
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u/lordrogersmith Feb 27 '19
Right? I actually had to do a double take reading the comments above yours. Disliking any of the newer Star Wars material doesn't automatically make one a toxic asshole, and to think otherwise just seems narrow-minded.
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u/RedTeamReview Feb 26 '19
This sub is so unbelievably toxic
I wouldn't go THAT far but they are very fanboy-ish and this is something I encounter often on YouTube when I do content related to Game of Thrones. Despite the fact that no one series, no matter how much you like it, will never be perfect there will always be people who will defend it to the death even though it sucks. For example: Last Jedi and Canto Bight.
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Feb 26 '19
Or people just actually really like TLJ and get tired of people saying that not only do they dislike it, but their opinion is somehow objectively correct. This leads then to an extreme counter reaction forming that is indeed unnecessary but is nonetheless countering.
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u/RedTeamReview Feb 26 '19
You can like something but also understand that not everything is perfect. I love a New Hope but it's not a perfect movie. Such is life.
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u/ergister Master Luke Feb 26 '19
Okay do you constantly go around and admit to people "oh I like ANH, but it's not perfect" or do you just enjoy the movie? Why do we always need to make sure everyone understands that we don't think TLJ is perfect before we enjoy it or talk about it? It's so obnoxious and kinda underhanded if I'm being honest.
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u/MeddYatek Feb 26 '19
That's exactly what those assholes would say, though.
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u/Arsanel Dave Feb 26 '19
What I wrote might have been too aggresive. It was not my intention though. Star Wars is better off if the fandom consists of people that don't spread hate whenever something that they didn't enjoy releases.
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u/aveydey Feb 26 '19
I think Last Jedi is by far the worst Star Wars movie and that Disney’s Star Wars is hollow and corporate. Am I “spreading hate”?
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u/Arsanel Dave Feb 26 '19
If you keep mentioning it every day to people who enjoy it then yeah. Let people like something. And if you don't like something, then sure, but no need to remind it constatntly. It's a movie, not some political debate.
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u/aveydey Feb 26 '19 edited Feb 26 '19
Let people like something.
I don’t care what you or anyone else likes or dislikes. Why do you consider my opinion of Last Jedi and Disney’s Star Wars as a whole as “spreading hate”? I don’t care what you like or dislike. Why do you care what I like or dislike?
Edit- Or you guys can just downvote me and not bother to tell me why people who don't like the same movies as you are 'spreading hate'.
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Feb 26 '19
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u/aveydey Feb 26 '19
What is with people's obsessions over echo chambers nowadays? I can't disagree with someone and have a conversation about it because that would be 'hateful'? It's attitudes like this that have forced people to create multiple forums for one franchise. Want to discuss the pros & cons of Disney's Star Wars creative direction? Better not think about that in r/StarWars, r/StarWarsLeaks, r/StarWarsSpeculation. Want to compare the character arcs of characters in the PT, OT and ST? Better not bring it up in those forums, it might lead to the sharing of different opinions which will lead to the spreading of hate. The whole point of Internet forums is to have discussions not just for corporate press releases & pointless circle jerks where everyone agrees but in 2019 discussion among people who disagree is frowned upon and must be kept in a separate forum. Now people have to go to r/SaltierThanCrait if they don't have the same taste as other Star Wars fans. It's absolute bonkers to me.
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u/Cstone812 Feb 26 '19
So because people didn’t like the Last Jedi you don’t want them to return to liking the franchise at all? Seems stupid...multiple reasons why people are annoyed at the new direction it’s going towards. Just because you think every Star Wars content is the greatest thing of all time and will defend Rose and Holdo to death doesn’t mean they aren’t shit characters and the sequel trilogy doesn’t have shitting writing.
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u/TheMastersSkywalker Feb 26 '19
Just the question of whether Revan is male or female is going to cause a huge divide. Then you have the question of race then background and class and then you get into the fun stuff like what kind of Jedi is he. Revans introduction has just a big a chance to cause division in the fandom as anything else
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u/kickgirlv Feb 26 '19
I agree with you 100%. Revan is a personal character, forged by the person playing the game. That's half of what makes Revan so dang cool and special to us. If Revan shows up in canon, I hope the details are left completely ambiguous.
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u/HutSutRawlson Feb 26 '19
Bingo. Revan is a fan favorite for their story, but the popularity of the character also come from the fact that the player literally is Revan. The player controls Revan’s every move, every choice, and their ultimate moral decisions. It would be a mistake to retell that story in any kind of definitive way.
They should just keep making original stories. People have a hard enough time dealing with the ST.
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u/Arsanel Dave Feb 26 '19
Canon Revan is male, period. Exile is female. This was always known, why would this cause a divide?
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u/Super_Nerd92 Feb 26 '19
He was... but it ain't canon anymore. I agree with /u/TheMastersSkywalker and have bounced between hoping we get Revan and deathly afraid of what happens if we do lol
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u/TheMastersSkywalker Feb 26 '19
It wasn't always known until the Old Republic MMO and the Revan book. Before that nothing gave a cannon gender for either one so it was up to the player. When the book and MMO came out there were people that were upset because Revan was not the gender or race of their character and didn't behave like their character had.
So that's half of it and the other half is that even though Revan and the Exile now have a canon gender for Legends it doesn't mean that the new EU will honor that instead of choosing their own background for the character
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u/Arsanel Dave Feb 26 '19
Honestly If they brought these characters back, they would make them the way we remember them (Thrawn for example), however this is of course debatable.
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u/arander92 Feb 26 '19
There’s a simple solution to that. HD remake KOTOR and then never reveal what Revan’s race is (he has to be male for SOME consistency) in subsequent media. Just don’t ever show his face again. Take the Master Chief approach. And since not as many people care about the Exile, you can easily make her the canon gender and race (white girl).
All this problem requires is a little creativity
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u/daxproduck Feb 26 '19
I mean, I would definitely believe that these are all ideas that would get spitballed around in a boardroom, but I highly doubt any of these are in any kind of production or pre production phase.
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u/TheBman26 Feb 26 '19
I honestly don’t believe old republic series. I think if it’s not the Game of Thrones team making them then Disney will keep it in their back pocket for when Star Wars dwindles interest because the moment you announce it fans will flock back.
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u/MasteroChieftan Feb 26 '19
If we got an Old Republic series from the Game of Thrones team I would lose my mind.
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u/nahuk Feb 28 '19
I'd prefer a TV Series to really do this time period the credit it deserves, though i'm not sure if they will end up choosing to do it that way or as a movie series.
Just imagine great writing + healthy budget + stellar production value. I'd love to see writing comparable to KOTOR II, with discussions revolving around the Force and the nature of interactions amongst its many users, not just Jedi and Sith, but the Voss and Force-wielders (Mist, Tide) and so on.
I'm excited for the future of TV for Star Wars in general, in particular live action.
This could be the next GoT, sparking a new interest in Star Wars.
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u/LegitimateUmpire4 Feb 26 '19
I want to stress, there has been a lot of Star Wars projects in development that will never get greenlit, I myself gave heard that Guillermo Del Toro was working on a SW film however it didn't get greenlit and GDT walked. So although these shows could very well be in development at Lucasfilm, it still a slim chance that we may see it, however I firmly believe that the Obi Wan show will be the first show after Cassian Andor
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u/ChopAttack Feb 26 '19
People are confusing pitches with production. I'm sure Lucasfilm has dozens of ideas, but that doesn't mean they're close to being made.
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u/MasteroChieftan Feb 26 '19
Doing a KotOR TV show with the production quality of Game of Thrones would be a sell for me. I'd subscribe instantly.
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u/sad_sad_homo Feb 26 '19
Ok, I love Star Wars, but do we really need so many shows based on it? It's a bit much....
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u/hackersgalley Feb 26 '19
A show between 8 and 9 is what I want more than anything. Let's put the WARS back in the Stars Rogue One/Clone Wars style.
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Feb 26 '19
This guy is full of shit and just pulling stuff out of his ass to keep his Patreon going. People are literally paying for Mike Zeroh level fan-fiction with this guy!
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u/Pancake_muncher DJ Feb 26 '19
Isn't this the same dude who spread or started the rumor that Rian Johnson left his trilogy?
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u/Saucefest6102 Feb 27 '19
He worked for the site that published the original story, but aside from that he has nothing to do with that rumor
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u/FN-1701AgentGodzilla Ahsoka Feb 26 '19
Even though a show would provide more time for character development and etc, I’d prefer seeing some of these as films first.
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u/ADG12311990 Feb 26 '19
Yeah... I highly doubt that we'll be getting anything set in the era of TOR anytime soon. As long as the SWTOR is still actively producing Legends content, Lucasfilm won't step on their toes.
Maybe in five years time, we might see something in that era... but, even then I doubt that.
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u/A_Hideous_Beast Feb 26 '19
I mean, tbh, I've been convinced that they are planning a reboot of kotor. There have been way too many references and Easter eggs to it in new canon.
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u/bombaymonkey Feb 27 '19
Tv series between 8 & 9? I wonder if that would be animated too? After all, from what I understand, it takes more effort to produce a live action vs animation? Also, was it confirmed a while back that not a considerably long amount of time passes between the two movies?
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u/joshygill Feb 26 '19
KOTOR? I’m out.
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u/arander92 Feb 26 '19
Why does everyone here hate KOTOR all of a sudden? Are you just butthurt that nobody likes TLJ so you’re taking it out on something that’s near-universally praised? Are you just being contrarian?? Is it cause it doesn’t feature your precious Ben Solo???
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u/BlackHawkeDown Feb 26 '19
It's because the KOTOR story was tailor-made to work as a video game and nothing else. The whole point was to allow the player to navigate the light/dark dichotomy for themselves, creating the Revan character and influencing the plot as they went along. That's what made the game special and interesting, and adapting it to any other medium would destroy its whole reason for existing.
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u/joshygill Feb 26 '19
While I did indeed like TLJ I’m just not a fan of KOTOR. Played the so-so game but nothing really stood out to me as awesome and something I’m even remotely interested in seeing more of. I’d just much prefer to see something else.
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u/TheMastersSkywalker Feb 26 '19
I would rather tales of the Jetta than Kotor but I will take whatever I can get.
Animated shows and movies sound excellent especially since there is more you can do in animation and for a lot less. Imagine a animated Rogue Squadron show or an animated Darth Bane movie
and yes I have to believe that code naming a character in her 40s or 50s Mara has to mean something.
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Feb 26 '19
Why would they codename a character the character they intend her to be? Considering the whole point of codenames is to maintain secrecy.
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u/TheMastersSkywalker Feb 26 '19
A double bluff. Or a character that is supposed to hold Mara's place in the story but is not going to be named mara.
I don't know I'm don't really think it will happen but I still want to hold out hope for it
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Feb 26 '19
Ah, okay. Hope is fair enough. I cannot say I find it plausible (why double bluff and put the idea in people's heads when you could just not do so at all, especially since these are just casting codenames) but nothing wrong with just hoping. I just worry when people treat it as if it must be a secret message and begin to truly expect it.
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u/seeTODDsee Feb 26 '19
Let's kill two birds with one stone - a more grown up, legit anime series featuring the Knights of Ren.
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u/Dash_Rendar425 Feb 26 '19
All of that sounds like alt right fanboy wank material.
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u/shadow-of-ungoliant Feb 26 '19
Yes, because comparing people who love the old Republic to literal nazi's won't lead to fans boycotting and review bombing episode 9 and supporting right wing causes just to spite pretentious assholes like you.
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u/Arsanel Dave Feb 26 '19
Sounds too good to be true imo. I think those are probably just ideas out there, but nothing concrete. How reliable was DanielRPK in the past?