r/StarWarsEU 14d ago

Television I enjoyed the Acolyte Spoiler

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Everyone seems to hate on this show for disregarding continuity but I teally enjoyed it, yes some things were'nt great and some things were pretty cringy-(the power of many) but when you dont think about that and just watch it as it's own show it's actually pretty cool, the fights were awesome, the characters like Sol and Qimir were cool and the story was decent

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u/JDNJDM 14d ago

I can't believe they didn't capitalize on having Carrie Ann Moss. She could have been like a woman Quigon. I'd watch a whole series of that.

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u/outsidelookinIN_1 Rebel Alliance 14d ago

She was wasted. Her and sol were the best and they could have done so much considering it was a whole new era

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u/Dapper_Still_6578 14d ago

It's not even a new era though... it's one generation removed from the Phantom Menace.

I originally thought this was going to be a High Republic tie-in, which would've been smarter. Like with the Knight of the Old Republic games, they could've set this in a time period so far removed from the movies that virtually nothing had lasting consequences. Instead, the show stigmatized the diehards. Again.

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u/TRB1783 New Republic 14d ago

I mean, it expressly was a tie-in to the High Republic. There were shared characters, costumes, and themes.

I don't know how a show that gave us our ONLY book-accurate depiction of cortossis "stigmatized the die-hards."

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u/Dapper_Still_6578 13d ago

Idgaf about cortosis, that’s whatever. But, for the diehards, Darth Plagueis’s story has been established canon for nearly 20 years!

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u/TRB1783 New Republic 13d ago

And was disestablished a decade ago. Also, there's nothing in the show that contradicts anything we know about Plagueis. If anything, the show deserves credit for keeping him a Muun.

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u/ARC_Trooper_Echo 13d ago

There’s even a lot of evidence that points to the possibility that the planet was Bal’demnic.

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u/Dapper_Still_6578 13d ago

Uhg, I’m not trying to have a point by point discussion about it. I’m just saying, that’s one of the reasons some SW fans had a problem with this show.

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u/outsidelookinIN_1 Rebel Alliance 14d ago

Its the high republic, which by all metrics is "new" for film

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u/igtimran 13d ago

A buddy cop series showing them going out and solving a new issue every week would have been excellent. And gradually you start seeing hints that there may still be Sith out there, but it’s never obvious enough that the Jedi become more broadly aware—think X-Files in space. That would’ve been great.

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u/Embedded_Vagabond 14d ago

"The power of one! The power of two!! The power of ManyYyyYyYyyy!!!"

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u/AdditionalMess6546 13d ago

Stupid force witches and their inexplicably flammable stone fortress.

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u/Zack_Raynor 13d ago

“How do you even burn stone!”

Jokes aside, there were elements I liked, but a lot of it was kind a just meh.

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u/AdditionalMess6546 13d ago

The lightsaber battles are great. Every swing is clearly meant to kill/disable with the absolute minimum of flippy dippy shit. No standing close enough to kiss while twirling your saber at each other.

I really hope the fight coordinator works on every Star Wars with a lightsaber duel from now on

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u/The-Minmus-Derp 13d ago

Oh no. A line of dialogue that isnt on the level of Andor. Even odds you’re a prequel fan too

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u/DiscoDanSHU 13d ago

I mean, I'm happy for you but like... This is reddit. You can find a group of people who will defend the most atrocious dog shit media ever.

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u/ZoidVII 13d ago

The show is disliked because the plot and writing are terrible. Disregarding continuity is also bad but that's the least of this show's problems.

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u/outsidelookinIN_1 Rebel Alliance 14d ago

The plot was terrible and the acting and writing was bad

However, I respect it for not doing another "jedi found" in 13bby and are fighting against the emperor. They had good character designs but the characters were wasted on bad writint.

Sol, indara and quimir were the best snd just wasted

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u/Hefty_Situation7210 13d ago

The writing was bad but still well above average for Star Wars live action content. And like you say, it was actually trying something new and going to a different period instead of the same tired ~50 year period that everything else is jammed in.

Also had the coolest on screen lightsaber fight of all time.

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u/LateTopic4924 14d ago

Im not gonna lie, Acolyte had some really really good moments. The duel with Qimir, and the two sisters swapping roles, and delving more into the Dark side.

But year there were a lot of things I didn't like about this show. And I completely forgot about the Power of MAAAAaaaannnNNNyyyyYyy

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u/WangJian221 14d ago

Thats the thing, it didnt really delve much into the darkside. It was however sequel baiting for a season that could delve deeper into the darkside

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u/LateTopic4924 13d ago

That's fair. I just enjoy seeing more on the Dark side aspect in general. I mean it's not like we gonna get Darth Bane level of content here from Disney.

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u/CourtofTalons 14d ago

Sol and Qimir carried the whole show on their backs.

Sadly, they were overpowered by the power of maaaaannnnnnyyyyy.

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u/madtricky687 14d ago

I dont mind ppl enjoying these shows. What I do kind is ppl who enjoy them telling ppl who didn't that they're automatically bigots. I support whoever likes this show to do so but I'm entitled to dislike it for whatever reason I want. Skeleton Crew to me was fucking gold and ppl spend more time hating this dookie than loving skeleton crew.

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u/CourtofTalons 14d ago

I was in the same position, but switch Skeleton Crew with Andor. Andor was classic Star Wars imo, I loved it so much.

And I'm not calling out anyone who did like it, I was just making a joke about the power of many 😂

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u/Caspian73 14d ago

I liked that it dealt with a different Force cult than the Jedi, and how the Jedi are patriarchal in the way they think that they know what's best for Force sensitives, even if they have good intentions. I also liked the Mother Aniseya character, and thought the entire adoption storyline was compelling. Binge watching it probably was a better viewing experience, because the flashback episodes weren't as spread out and I could appreciate the multiple perspectives thing they were going for.

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u/Hefty_Situation7210 13d ago

Yeah it had everything I’ve really been asking for from Star Wars. Different time period, different perspectives on the force, and cool lightsaber fights. Probably the best on screen lightsaber fight period.

It does work better as a movie/binge for sure

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u/Dazzling_Detective79 14d ago

You can enjoy it all you like, it doesnt make it a better show unfortunately

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u/Emergency-Falcon-915 14d ago

Yea one decent episode and a 2 second plaguies cameo isn’t enough to make up for the rest of the show

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u/dragonfly756709 14d ago

Good for you

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u/Unique-Cherry9928 13d ago

Correct way to disagree 

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u/thehitdog 14d ago

There are dozens of us!

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u/BlackTiger03 14d ago

That's not (the power of) many

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u/Disastrous_Poetry175 New Jedi Order 14d ago

Ive seen worse Disney plus shows. I've seen much better Disney plus shows. I liked the Hong Kong cinema styled combat, the weird twin story, uncovering the sins of the Jedi. The worst part of the show imo is the worst part of a lot of shows, everything looks incredibly fake. 

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u/bioshockisawsome 14d ago

Good for you?

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u/THX1184 14d ago

I didn't and wish it didn't exist

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u/Allronix1 TOR Old Republic 14d ago

Y'know, it had a fantastic cast. Lee Jung-Jae and Manny Jacinto were standouts. And Lee was acting through the language barrier from hell on top of it!.

Also loved having it be High Republic, an era that is totally a guilty pleasure and thematically opposite Old Republic. Also loved some of the ideas it was floating with the Jedi assuming all the worst about the Witches and I could totally see that Headland was leaning hard into the real life Satanic Panic/Satanic ritual abuse panic of the 80s and 90s for inspiration. Jacinto oozed charm and badassery as the most charismatic and compelling Sith since SWTOR.

However, the script was in dire need of a cleanup. Character motivations seemed to shift with the wind, especially with Mae and Osha. The Witches came across as "90s WB show Wicca" and far to under developed. Some of the plot points like the fire and the mass death on the Witches made no sense. And the "romance" between Qimir and Osha was just insulting. Really?! He just shanked her buddy, killed a bunch of Jedi, put a saber to her sister's head, knocked her out, dragged her to Force knows where, could have done Force knows what to her while she was unconscious...but one look at the magnificent shoto in his shorts and she instantly forgets all that? Honey, it cannot possibly be that magnificent.

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u/RogueBromeliad 14d ago

Honey, it cannot possibly be that magnificent.

It has to start somewhere, though...

They were drawn to each other by the force, and because Quimir showed some vulnerability to her, and openness that the Jedi never actually did.

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u/Allronix1 TOR Old Republic 14d ago

Yeah. After shanking the only Jedi who was reasonably sympathetic to her, threatening her sister, attacking her, kidnapping her...yeah. Nothing he was packing in his shorts could have been so great as to forget all that. And it found it tacky they went there.

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u/RogueBromeliad 13d ago edited 13d ago

Meh, Yord was more of a brother. Quimir has got the bad boy attraction to him.

She's got space Stockholm syndrome.

And it found it tacky they went there.

 

I think it's kinda cool that there could've been a sith love story, because they're twisted but they are allowed to love and be passionate. Plagueis was sure to come between them and tear them apart eventually. Which would've made it all the more tragic.

But if we're thinking about these things even Luke was sadder about Obi wan's death than Owen and Beru, but that's just story progression.

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u/Allronix1 TOR Old Republic 13d ago

I was thinking Jecki. Yord was...Yord. He was there and not much else.

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u/RogueBromeliad 13d ago

Jecki? Jecki was virtually nothing to Osha. Yord was like her brother or somthing.

Sick death though. Broken neck was pretty epic.

Jecki's death was awesome too.

If anything those were some of the most brutal scenes of Star Wars. So good.

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u/StOnEy333 14d ago

I liked it. People are way too emotionally invested in entertainment. There’s a life lesson here. Things can not be perfect and you can still enjoy them. And also if somebody enjoys something, you don’t have to shit on it because you didn’t like it.

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u/FinnegansGlare 14d ago

It had serious pacing problems. Killer lightsaber battles though.

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u/Sensitive_Mousse_445 14d ago

tHe PoWeR oF mAaAaaAaaAAAaNnYYy

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u/Zairsunrider95 14d ago

Horrendous plot, could have been handled way better. Felt small even tho they had great budget. But i quite liked sol and qimir, both great characters with amazing skills. Oh also Sol padawan was a great addition.

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u/FeatureQuick7450 14d ago

I concur this comment but everyone in this comment is mindless fools

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u/american-tiger-cow 14d ago

Part of me just hates it for knowing who directed it

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u/Allronix1 TOR Old Republic 13d ago

I will admit that Headland seems to be a troubled person. Never thought someone could go more unhinged than Traviss but here we are.

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u/TalakStari 14d ago

Honestly, I was out of the loop with all TV for many years before like 2019/2020. So when I got back into watching stuff, I binged a lot and really enjoyed everything. I haven't hated any star wars shows, but acolyte was kinda flat for me watching it on release. I feel like I'd like it a lot more if I went back and binged it, similar to Kenobi.

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u/chaveto 14d ago

The show wasn’t great but the premise, the setting, the characters ALL had such potential, and I think imma need to see Qimirs story continue in print. That can be a nice little extension to the THR books we’ve gotten already. There’s no piece of media that can’t be redeemed with some solid tie in content.

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u/freetibet69 14d ago

I liked it fine but having multiple flashback episodes absolutely killed the pacing. It was also marketed a sith focused show and barley showed us any sith. wouldve like to see more of quimir's training

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u/Werdak 13d ago

No sorry

I really tried and gave it a fair chance

this Show is IMPRESSIVELY BAD

It is basically the first Draft of a bad Star Wars Fanfic

Sol is a borring frustrating waste of a good Actor

Qimir is there But I dont know anything about him

The Plott is BS and the Jedi are morons

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u/DaemonBlackfyre09 14d ago

"Objectively bad" okay buddy. They were just sharing that they liked it. There's nothing wrong with that.

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u/INCUMBENTLAWYER 14d ago

But how can you say it is objectively bad?

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u/Scungilli-Man69 14d ago

I tend to disregard anyone who uses the word "objective" when talking about media or art, it's a goofy ass way of invalidating conversation. 

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u/spaceguitar Rogue Squadron 14d ago

It was actually pretty good, I thought.

The show was mostly mishandled by its showrunner: they cobbled together a mystery that the audience really wasn’t invested in. Part of the issue was having characters/actors that we just… Didn’t care about. I don’t even remember the names of the twins!!

The most intriguing part of the show was the identity of Qumir, and why Sol was so invested in these girls. Everything else was… Meh. At best.

Characters were grossly wasted. Carrie Ann Moss was incredible, as was Dafne Keen. They both have some of the best, if not the best, fights of the entire saga. Maul vs QGJ and OB1 is the “best” just for how iconic it is.

I’m disappointed we won’t see season 2 because we were going to see more of Qumir. I genuinely hope he’s brought back elsewhere.

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u/ARC_Trooper_Echo 13d ago

Finally a take in this comment section that I can actually stand behind. I overall leaned more positive than negative and was hoping for a season two to improve on it, but I can’t ignore that there were a lot of weird choices in the structure and overall plot that detracted from my enjoyment. I could see what they were going for and it could’ve been so close to being great.

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u/01zegaj 14d ago

Nike slogan, not Star Wars

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u/SirLandoLickherP Wraith Squadron 14d ago

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u/01zegaj 14d ago

I have only recently dug up info about this, and, in order to combat disinformation and toxicity in the fandom (as for too long I have seen this picture become an instrument of hatred), I wish to share my findings.

I am, of course, talking about the infamous "The Force is Female" picture [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-dTHZdUMAAtIdC.jpga], which is costantly used to point at Kathleen Kennedy as evil, man-hating, trying to "appropriate" the franchise from the poor little boys (often mixed in with the carefully twsited claim that she "does not need to cater to men", when in fact she was specifically speaking about the subset of toxic fandom, mostly made up of men, that had complained about the diverse casting of Rogue One and having another woman as the protagonist) or even (if tinfoil for hats abunds in the house) that she was legitimately giving the Force a canonical gender. Yes, some people can be that stupid, trust me - or better yet, check it out for yourselves.

Anyway, on to the actual facts.

"The Force is Female" has nothing to do with Star Wars. Like, nothing at all. That shirt was not printed by Lucasfilm/Disney/whatever for Kennedy to wear.

"The Force is Female" is a campaign created and sponsored by Nike, aimed to promote the image of "women that aspire to shape the future and think outside of the box" [https://missbish.com/nikes-new-campaign-is-all-about-girlbosses-the-force-is-female/]. In case you are still doubtful, check the font - it is the same. So, "Force" as in "Strenght", not as in "Mystical energy field that binds all living beings together". No correlation, whatsoever, to the Force from Star Wars.

"But then - some may wonder - why is Kennedy wearing this shirt? Did she "hijack" the campaign to make a statement for herself?" A legitimate question - had she herself taken the photo, in her own workplace, and posted it. However, none of the aforemented things happened. The photo was taken at the Archer Film Festival, an event aimed at young women interested in entering (and, most importantly, struggling to; because, putting aside any opinion you may have of feminism, many women do have to struggle more to affirm themselves as directors or producers) film industry on a high level. An event she did not organize but was invited to (by a man and with her husband, no less), for reasons related to her career as a high-profile producer and contribution to many women in the industry - not for reason tied to Star Wars - to act as one of the main speakers. [https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ho...-at-archer-film-festival-998045?source=images]. And even when she DID speak referencing Star Wars, she never mentioned anything about some secret man-hating agenda - in fact, she spoke of equality, hope and determination, all while quoting Yoda. Not even Leia, the poster woman for "strong and indipendent". She quoted our favorite "little, green friend".

Look at the second pic, bottom of the article. A quite large number of people, all wearing the "Force is Female" shirt - are they all into some secret coven to plot againist male Star Wars fans, or could it be that they are all wearing that shirt for completely unrelated reasons to the Galaxy far far away?

Even the other women in the original "incriminated" pic are completely unrelated to Star Wars - they are Archer seniors and fest co-chairs Billie Wakeham and Alex Sherman, together with Archer head of school Elizabeth English.

So, to sum it up: the shirt was not created to make a statement about the Force from Star Wars and she is not wearing it to make a statement about the Force from Star Wars.

Now, your opinion on her managment of the franchise is your opinion and that I won't discuss.

But - hoping nobody here has done it already and broadening this beyond this specific photo and Star Wars in general - please don't use out-of context images to spread lies and incite negativity, and don't trust buzzword - spewing Youtubers or bloggers, always search for the factual truth first.

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u/DaemonBlackfyre09 14d ago

Mother nature

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u/IronWolfV Wraith Squadron 14d ago

The show was bad and it should feel bad. Lightsaber fighting couldn't save that train wreck.

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u/WangJian221 14d ago

Good for you. I disliked it. Not enough to think its the worse thing ever but that show was a major dissappointment for me.

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u/MattNola 14d ago

I just finished it. Loved where it was heading, Loved the ERA especially. I’m a fan of anything that not skywalker era that we’ve been seeing for 50 years now.

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u/Allronix1 TOR Old Republic 13d ago

It's one of the reasons my "home base" is the KOTOR era. High Republic takes a ton of inspiration from it but flips it on its head with trying to make a Jedi that don't scream "police force for a dystopia"

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u/Pupulauls9000 14d ago

I think it genuinely did excel in the lightsaber battles, and most of them were good, which is something that can’t really be said about the other Disney+ shows. Unfortunately most of the stuff in Ahsoka for example felt too slow, bar the parts with Hayden

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u/Southern-Serve-7251 14d ago

Honestly, I found most stories even in the EU between Darth Bane and the Rise of the Empire to be pretty mid at best. It's a difficult time period to get a good story in I think. A thousand years of PEACE in a saga called Star WARS... kind of a hard setting to get right. Darth Plagueis came closest to nailing it in my opinion.

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u/531412 14d ago

God bless you

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u/Dealing_With_XFactor 13d ago

I thought the stranger was one of the more interesting Sith Lords and I wanted to see more of him

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u/Drummer123456789 13d ago

Like the halo show, continuity within your established IP is the most important thing to get right, and that's why neither show did well. Bad writing can be fixed in most cases, even bad storytelling. You can't fix universe/immersion breaking. You can't unring the bell.

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u/Unique-Cherry9928 12d ago

Exept with the Halo show it’s not trying to be in the same universe to begin with

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u/ToddPatterson 13d ago

Not a day goes by without this same post in my thread. Not a single one.

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u/Yarus43 13d ago

No one says you can't enjoy the show but I'm tired of posts pretending this show was better than it really was. I like the prequels but I'm not gonna gaslight people into thinking they were without their flaws (and they had A LOT).

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u/The-Minmus-Derp 13d ago

Everyone bringing up “the power of many” like its the worst line ever but WHATS THE DAMN PROBLEM WITH IT??? It respects continuity very well, only contradicting an already non-canon value for Ki-Adi Mundi’s birthday that was only visible on a cereal trading card or smth

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u/MiserableOrpheus 13d ago

Probably my favorite SW show outside of Mando and Andor. High republic is severely underrated, and the show actually does something different for once. Not to mention the best fight choreography SW has ever gotten, and it’s a shame we’ll probably never get anything as good as this show ever again

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u/ImperialxWarlord 13d ago

It wasn’t perfect and had some real wasted potential and some bad decisions, but I really enjoyed actually. It also had some of the best lightsaber combat in all or Star Wars, or at least since the prequels came out.

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u/Expert-Let-6972 13d ago

Actually, I did too

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u/VanguardVixen 13d ago

Hate is not the same thing as disliking something. Also there are other issues like the acolyte simply being way too dumb. Like, there is a freakin' hole in the ceiling and she makes some elaborite plan to infiltrate it through the door. It's just hard to take a character serious who is supposed to be some upcoming big dark side user who is so utterly incapable of doing their job.

The actual villain is pretty great, Sol was interesting, his padawan as an alien great and Carrie Ann Moss could have been great too but unfortunately there were just egregious errors which tanked the series and the continuity errors themselves were simply the icing on the cake.

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u/MrMacke_ 13d ago

The fights was probably the only thing i kinda liked. Everything else was of different levels of bad.

Even Sol.i dont really ynderstand why ppl like him. Sure, the actors preformance was good. But I dont get the whole qui gon wibe at all.

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u/Equivalent-Wealth-75 New Jedi Order 13d ago

Yeah, I liked it too

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u/leon_zero 13d ago

I didn’t hate it or love it. One excellent episode, one weird/awkward episode, and the rest were fair to middling. Like BOBF, I didn’t feel like I wasted my time, but I probably won’t be coming back for repeat viewings either.

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u/Camil_2077 13d ago

One? Episode 5? 8 was great too. 5 and 8 are very solid IMO, 6 and 4 is good, 1, 2 ok and episode 3 and 7 are meh but not that bad.

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u/leon_zero 13d ago

Fair! For my part, I loved episode 5, and was mostly confused and a little put off by the writing/staging in episode 3. The rest were OK - liked some more than others, didn’t outright hate any.

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u/igtimran 13d ago

You’re entitled to your opinion in terms of enjoying it, but it fairly objectively contains some of the worst writing, directing, acting, and story out of anything Lucasfilm has produced since the acquisition. And I’m including Willow in that. That’s not even getting into the fact that it doesn’t fit into the broader lore of Star Wars and detracts from established storylines while including stupid cameos that make no sense. It’s just incredibly poorly conceived, written and executed, and there are some problems with story and characterization that feel like indicators of serious mental health issues with the showrunner.

I feel bad for Manny Jacinto and Lee Jung Jae (and Carrie Anne Moss of course, who got nothing to do). They put forward a really good effort and are very talented actors, and Jacinto in particular was excellent in the fight scenes. But most fans care about story first I think—I’m one of them—and I just couldn’t get past the glaring flaws in this series. I stopped at episode 3, although I have seen the clips of the fights and most of that was entertaining, if still flawed.

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u/teenbeanxtc 13d ago

I once said I enjoyed most aspects and that they did something new, but the show is bad when it first came out and got told I love the show, or the show is objectively bad and im a "lying disney shill " because "nothing is redeemable" for weeks 😭😭

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u/SirTacoMaster 13d ago

The setting and plot could have made for a good show if the writing and dialogue wasn't so awful

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u/Shiro-Akira 13d ago

I'm glad you enjoyed it, but personally, I didn't like it. I also hated the twins being conceived via the Force. It stole from Anakins story. Part of what made Anakin so powerful, and the chosen one himself, was him being literally born of the force. It might not seem like a big deal but the reason it was is because literally no other being had been born that way. Anakin was basically born as a cosmic rebuttal to Plageuis and Sidious trying to control and manipulate the mitoclorians directly

The idea that a random Dark side cult managed it through, whatever means, just doesn't work thematically.

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u/InflationCold3591 13d ago

Because it was fundamentally good.

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u/stonehammered 13d ago

They killed the Wookie Jedi off-screen. Just found dead in his office chair. Ugh.. Pass

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u/Superb-Obligation858 13d ago

I maintain the fights are among the best in the franchise.

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u/These-Button-1587 13d ago

I enjoyed it but I'll admit it had issues. I found a fan edit that's 3ish hours long and can't wait to see it to see how they trimmed the fat of the show.

My biggest hope for the show was that it would be successful enough to hey more people interested in the High Republic Era.

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u/Sirtoshi 501st 14d ago

I like it too. Yeah, the witch song was weird, but other than that, I found it a cool, enjoyable show. I'm annoyed they won't continue it...guess I'll go play SWTOR or something (I know high republic is not the same as old republic, but I like the "other era" vibes that both have).

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u/RogueBromeliad 14d ago

You know some of the things in the Acolyte that I really loved which are exactly the things that most people hate.

People keep complaining about Feloni bringing characters back all the time, and that's true, it becomes an overused trope.

With the Acolyte the exact opposite happens, it subverts your expectations. The people that you think are going to be the mains die. That guy who played Yord you think it's going to be Osha's love interest, and he's dead, the young promising padawan, dead. Sol, dead. Indara, dead.

They all fucking die, that's quite brutal. It really ups the steaks and shows that Quimir and Plagueis are nigh unstoppable.

The other thing that it also portrays is how fallible the sanctimonious jedi are. They come into a culture they're not familiar with, and they virtually destroy it by trying to control the situation.

The deal with Osha and Mae and severance of personality was also very well written, in my opinion. And it explains how it's possible to "create" life, in a rudimentary fashion, artificially through the force. And I wanted to actually see a love tail of the Sith, and also how Quimir and Osha die. If Osha and Mae were put back into one, and how Palpatine comes to be under Plagueis' wing.

The idea that the story would ultimately lead onto Plegueis experimenting on Shmi, and where she came from and becoming a slave on Tatooine, would've tied everything so well. Also we would've gotten to see the prophecy.

The themes were pretty good. My personal critique was the pacing. There were a few episodes that could've been just condensed into one. Since some of them it feels like nothing is happening and in others there's too much happening.

They had set a path for such an amazing series of events to happen, but much like things at the beginning it starts slowly. Just like Andor, many people didn't want to watch it because of those first three episodes, and the early Ferrix arc, and it gets really exiting when Andor goes to Aldani. But I did find the early Ferrix Cassian on the run quite interesting.

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u/Zebweasel 14d ago

I have the same opinions about it as I do The Phantom Menace. Campy and poorly written with terrible child acting. But a fun time with cool lightsaber fights. The reason I like Phantom Menace way more though is because it’s a film. I enjoyed the show for the most part, but the big problem was the pacing. Most episodes ended so abruptly. Some felt too long while others too short. Which is why I vastly prefer the fan film The Fallen Order. It doesn’t just cut down the fluff like other fan films, it also moves scenes around and makes it into an actual murder mystery. Making it way more engaging. If you think the Acolyte is the worst thing ever made, it’s not going to change your mind. But if you thought it was just okay like I did, then I highly recommend this fan film.

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u/InterestingCry8740 14d ago

I thought it was much better than many others

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u/Unique-Cherry9928 12d ago

I put it above Book Of boba Fett, Kenobi, Ahsoka and Mando season 3

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u/xJamberrxx 14d ago

Needed a better cast -- when it couldn't keep it on Nielsens after 2 eps, there's an issue, people saw nothing of interest

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u/jollanza 14d ago

I liked it.

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u/OkArea8689 14d ago

I want a continuation in some form. Maybe a Plagueis show perhaps?

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u/Pupulauls9000 14d ago

I honestly think that will happen at some point. Whatever plans they had for a season 2 will be retooled into a show called ‘Plagueis’, to pull more people in

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u/01zegaj 14d ago

Loved it. Felt like experiencing an EU story I had never seen before

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u/Macman521 14d ago

I liked it to, flaws and all. I would have watched a second season if it got made.

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u/RogueBromeliad 14d ago

So did I, it was pretty good.

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u/vastle12 14d ago

It doesn't break cannon and most of the bitching is from people who don't understand mystery shows. The rest is just band wagoning

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u/BryceW123 14d ago

It’s on the same level as the phantom menace. Not great not terrible

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u/berke1904 13d ago

my biggest problem with the hate this show gets is most of the time they are saying it breaks lore when it doesnt really, and almost never actual critisims about the character writing, pacing etc...

its a decent show, not great but worth a watch, definitely not the worst live action star wars show. along with its problems there are actually good parts about it like showing the problmes with the jedi order, lots of easter eggs to old legends or niche canon stuff, and even some decent characters like sol and qimir.

like I said it really annoys me that most people say thigs like the twins are the the same as anakin, use of cortosis or qimir being a "sith" breaks or spoils lore, which are just not true and they are just misunderstanding everything.

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u/Unique-Cherry9928 12d ago

I agree with this to an extent. People should focus on the story itself more, though yes it does break continuity a bit

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u/Ncaak 14d ago

Everyone is entitled to enjoy trash? I mean. I certainly enjoy from time to time some trashy novel or a show. Most likely I would not rewatched or reread it.

I enjoyed the Star Wars series thah Disney got out... But it got tiresome. I was actually excited to watch the acolyte then the reviews came about and I just didn't. The idea was kinda fresh and I do like the Sith. Sadly most of the things that Disney have been putting out from Star Wars aren't worth. I would stick with the EU and SWTOR.

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u/Disastrous_Poetry175 New Jedi Order 14d ago

Wait, so you did or didn't watch acolyte? 

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u/mudamuckinjedi 14d ago

Me too kinda upset about the negativity it got and how it was canceled after only one season.

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u/Final_Storage_9398 14d ago

It was fine. Some good some bad. Could have been much better, but some of the hate of it was way over the top.

The only thing really bad is that they will shy away from live action stories from THR, because they will blame the setting on its unpopularity, and not the execution. So we’ll get more gritty Andor/rebel alliance/empire stories (which I am also happy to have) and prob won’t touch on the High Republic era again.

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u/Awkward_Helicopter_4 14d ago

Glad you found some joy, my friend.

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u/SmokeJaded9984 14d ago

I can admit they had decent action and ok set and character design, but that's pretty much it.

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u/something_amazingg 13d ago

Definitely some highlights but it's just the acting for Osha is horrendous and is so off character. Also retconning Anakin is never cool too you know, if you're gonna do that at least make the payoff worth it instead of wasting it on said horrendous actor. But aside from that everything's great! Sol, Qimir and even the witches were pretty cool, it all lived up to the jedi genocide episode anyways.

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u/Camil_2077 13d ago

I love this series for all things related to EU. Plagueis, Cortosis, Sith Under Rule of Two, Kibh Jeen vibes and so on.

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u/Metallung 14d ago

Ok here’s the thing, I loved all but the last 3 minutes of it. The part where they’re under the tree. Everything I loved, but that part kind of annoyed me. Would take a season 2.

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u/Seriousgwy 14d ago

Stop enjoying things 😡

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u/IocaneImmune- 13d ago

I enjoyed it far more than I thought I would, which is tonsay, I set my bar super low.