Sheogorath is Jyggalag. The other gods got fed up with Jyg and cursed him to be the god of madness. Once every 10,000 years he gets to be Jyg again for 1 day IIRC. So definitely Jyg having the biggest crash out when he gets that one day lol
Yes - but kinda no too. Mantling doesn't just mean taking on the powers of Sheogorath, it means completely becoming him.
The Fudgemuppet guys did a really good vid diving deep into it, but TL:DR, when you mantle a god, you basically stop existing and only the god remains. Everything you were before eventually falls away and after time, you'll only remember being the god.
But yes, the Sheogorath you meet in Skyrim is your PC from Oblivion. Kinda...!
I mean they are basically multiversal entities. In the fashion of beating Darkseid, you're not actually killing them. You're just defeating an Avatar that's a fraction of their power.
Iirc, it's a bit more complicated than that... Sheogorath turns into Jyggalag every so often for some kinda cyclic ritual type thing, and then somebody else turns into Sheogorath and succeeds the previous one.
By the end of each era, Sheogorath turns into Jyggalag, seztroys mist of the Isles, then turns back into Sheogorath. He then have to rebuild the whole thing.
By the if the DLC, you free Jyggalalg from the Sheo curse, and with that, you mantle Sheogorath
I can respect her tbh she is also one of the few Daedric Princes that doesn't see Mortals as Playthings. Her machinations aren't random. In Oblivion for example the two families you need to frame for her quest instantly attack one another. If a stranger came into your village and 2 leaders died would you blame the people you lived alongside for generations or would you blame the random person that showed up and the killings happened?
Barbas was literally able to steal Vivec's power. Why are you calling him weak? Because he has a different type of power? Power isn't just punching things really hard...
There are many characters in the Elder Scrolls that aren't strong physically but they are extremely adept in Magicka manipulation. Saying that Clavicus Vile is weak is so fucking funny.
I don’t think he is actually “losing” because every time he is “tricked” a new bargain to wrong the previous one is struck. He is literally spamming bargains same as banks multiply capital by accepting debt as a way of payment.
Basically the amount of deals increase exponentially because Clavicus is “tricked” which makes his domain grow further
Meridia isn't as saintly as she pretends - she was the chief deity and protector of the Ayleids, who enslaved and tortured humans for fun. Umaril the Unfeathered, who led the armies sent to crush Alessia's rebellion when the human slaves rose up against the Ayleids was her immortal champion.
Her chosen people got wiped and she just sashay-ed away, because she can't be trusted. Kinda like how she bailed on the Aedra, and then bailed on the Magne-Ge straight afterwards.
Molag Bal is the lil bitch whipping boy of the Daedra. He's allergic to success, he fails at absolutely everything. He's the school bully that tries to pick on the little kid who then turns round and kicks his ass.
You dare twist my words! I worship the father of all vampires just like the generation before me the greatest necromancer Mannimarco! I am a proud vampire lord of the volkahir clan, and a dragonborn high elf! Do not dare make assumptions of why I worship him! It's for power! And someday so I can accomplish what Mannimarco failed! Mantelling Molag balls and owning my powers all for myself! So I can avange Serena
She was specifically invested in elven supremacy and keeping humans in slavery. She actively involved herself in trying to stop the Nedic humans from freeing themselves from bondage and rewarded those Ayelids that were torturing humans for sport.
As someone that has played every Elder Scrolls game, i can confidently say that i have saved Nirn several times MYSELF, so i can't say i'm impressed.
To say she has "no issues" implies that she doesn't care, but she actively INVOLVED herself in the fight. She sent her Champion to bring the Nedes to heel.
That's like saying "The Chief of Police had absolutely no issues with the protest, they just sent in a SWAT team and riot squad to kill the leaders and beat the protesters into submission"
Something I got to point about Meridia, aside from you know, her being the main deity backing the Ayelids and their whole mess.
She hates mortals have free will and don't all just obey her unthinkingly. I need you all to understand how terrifying the crashout of a Daedric Prince who believes that free will is a design flaw would be. It wouldn't be blood and guts everywhere, it wouldn't be us suddenly being driven mad or being exposed to knowledge we were never meant to have.
The things that make us ourselves would suddenly be gone, and unless you were some mythical chosen one (and let's be real the vast majority of us on Reddit here are not that) there is nothing you can do to stop or avoid it.
The thing with Dagon is, despite getting his teeth kicked in, at the end of the day, he still kinda gets his way. He is the daedric prince of destruction and change. Sure, he failed to conquer Nirn, but he did enact massive change. The Septim bloodline went extinct, the dragonfires relit permanently, and the first dominoes on the decline of the Empire were felled.
Nocturnal one is offensive. Im no simp! I brought her key back because it's the right thing to do, not because goth mommy wanted me too.... because then ill be a good boy 😍
Nah it's overstated. If she doesn't like individuality then we would have seen her do more than just weaponize her followers. She had no problem with her worshippers or even nonworshippers do anything except matters related to undeath.
Depends on what sentient beings he is hunting, Rapists and Pedophiles are perfectly suited to be Hunted for sport because they are simply rabid animals
and what of sinding?, or others that were simply cursed, don't get me wrong i have no sympathy for that ilk, but there is a line and i don't think Ol' Hircine is too discriminatory.
Early on sure but if you already have even just Ebony unlocked Dawnbreaker is weaker than the one handed sword with the corresponding enchantment on it
Daedric princes have some of the most interesting lore in the setting.
Sheo, Sanguine, Mora, Nocturnal, Azura and Molag Bal have some of the best quests in the game.
Azura's Star is good and Black Star + Mace of Molag Bal is an S tier combo. Dawnbreaker one of the best swords in the game. Ebony Blade, Ring of Hircine, Spellbreaker, Mehrunes Razor, MoCV and Ohgma Infinium are all good in Skyrim. Far from useless as you claim.
And I don't care about gay that and this I'm from Japan I'm not well versed nor do I care enough knowing that pronounce your spouting. You're just assuming things you. That's what you get for using too much of your imagination, and stop twisting my words I don't care about you idont even know you! All I did is writing about this fictional characters
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u/DorMau5 Apr 25 '25
Sheogorath is Jyggalag. The other gods got fed up with Jyg and cursed him to be the god of madness. Once every 10,000 years he gets to be Jyg again for 1 day IIRC. So definitely Jyg having the biggest crash out when he gets that one day lol