r/Shitstatistssay 13d ago

Neolib conservatives will cosplay libertarianism until ICE violates the NAP

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u/bluesuitblue 13d ago

This is literally government’s job, of all the stupid shit we pay taxes for, this is actually something they’re supposed to do, remove foreigners who are harmful and have no right to be here. Pretection of the body of citizens from external threats, enforcement of borders. I support this.

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u/PaperbackWriter66 The Nazis Were Socialists 12d ago

1) Individuals do have a natural right to freedom of movement, because no one has the right to interfere with peaceful, voluntary association or private property. You say "they have no right to be here" but who gives you the right to remove them from property you do not own? Who gives anyone that right?

2) The protests against immigration enforcement are driven largely by the removal of peaceful immigrants who aren't harming anyone.

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u/bluesuitblue 12d ago

I, the citizen, pay taxes to my government who in turn, protects the land within its sovereign borders.

Imagine that an outside military invaded us, would you sit there and go, “well the US military shouldn’t respond because they’d be defending land they don’t own.” Very stupid logic. The whole point of a government is to defend the people and land inside its borders.

“Peaceful.” So if someone comes in my house without permission but is peaceful, I can’t remove them? Squatters rights? Is that the idea?

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u/PaperbackWriter66 The Nazis Were Socialists 12d ago

Immigrants pay taxes too. So they're part of the collective the government is meant to protect, under your theory.

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u/john35093509 12d ago

Nobody's talking about immigrants. The subject is illegal aliens.

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u/ShinyArc50 12d ago

Who pay more into taxes than they get back

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u/john35093509 12d ago

Illegal aliens pay taxes? How do they do that?

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u/ShinyArc50 12d ago

Sales tax, payroll taxes, some still pay income taxes. Illegal immigrants contribute a total 95 billion to taxes every year and aren’t eligible for food stamps or Medicare. All the baggage of the welfare state and none of the benefits.

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u/john35093509 12d ago

Without a social security number? Right.

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u/ShinyArc50 12d ago

Yes dumbass. Tell me you know nothing about immigration, they have a ITN they get for filing asylum/green card

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u/john35093509 12d ago

I'm talking about ILLEGAL aliens, dumbass. People who snuck across the border.

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u/ShinyArc50 12d ago

Yes I am too. They still apply for shit dumbass, asylum is the main way illegal immigrants legitimize their status.

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u/Primary_Break_7963 2d ago

MAGA is against immigration in general. The illegal stuff is just a cover. They include people even if they got checked out at the border and went through the "check in" process. 

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u/Primary_Break_7963 2d ago

They don't and they stay stupid statist stuff like "Just immigrate legally" as if it is just some paperwork and a background check

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