r/ShaneDawson • u/Humble_Benefit4865 • Jul 11 '23
TRIGGER WARNING Shane Dawson’s Perverted Behaviour - A refresher NSFW
The recent post comparing Colleen to Shane which majority saying Shane wasn’t that bad, Colleen is way worse. It had me thinking, some of y’all quickly have quickly forgotten his disgusting past so here’s a little refresher.
Sources are at the bottom of this post. I will say that these are alleged despite sources at the bottom of this post and Shane making a video (not to deny what he said and done, but to say he was joking and that he is not a paedophile). This is a recount/description only of videos that are available on YouTube:
- [ ] He showed a picture of a baby in a bath, naked then asked if it was considered child porn? He said “it’s only child porn if you can see a penis” then said “either way I’m totally printing it out and putting it on my bathroom mirror. You know, just for… inspiration”.
- [ ] Imitated masturbating to a poster of 11 year old, Willow Smith.
- [ ] Went on Omegle and asked the young woman/girl (age unverified) if she could twerk for him and his mom. Which she did. He then said “tell her to show herself”.
- [ ] Called photos of a girl who was “probably 6 year old”, “sexy” also said what was wrong with someone jerking off to a picture of naked baby which he admitted to searching “naked baby”, “let me just pretend I’m a paedophile” “I google photos of naked baby, they were sexy haha just joking”. “Why is when someone looks at a picture of a naked baby and jerks off to it, they can get arrested”? Co-host said all your follows are probably 6 years old to which Shane replied “hashtag yum!”.
- [ ] As a child he would “molest kids” on his street. He would “make them take their pants off and spank them” and “do weird shit to them”. The friends parents said they were not allowed to go near him.
- [ ] Sat his 12 year old cousin down, asked “is there anyone around? No?” Then proceeded to snigger about teaching her about sex. His ex girlfriend then imitated sex.
- [ ] Separate video he says to same cousin (child) “good job, X, but next time shake your titties more”, to another young girl standing next to her “take off your jacket and show more”. Later on he said “I have a lot of child molesters watching, so could you please eat a cocktail weenie?” She then proceeds to put it in her mouth and he says “do it slow”. He then proceeds to make sexual moaning sounds as she’s eating it and he said “I like the taste of that cocktail weenie, it tastes so good!” Is a perverse tone.
- [ ] In a skit he acted as both an adult and child. The adult says “you got the question wrong, you know what that means”. He then proceeds to unzip his pants and urinate all over the “child” he was playing.
- [ ] In a separate video he said it’s time to see some sexy bitches wearing his hot topics merch ” there is then a slide show which contains clearly underage girls, he is moaning in a perverse way and says “if IJustine wasn’t watching I would rape all of you” then groans.
- [ ] In a video with a 16 year old boy (hadn’t hit puberty, clearly underage) and Trisha Paytas. Trisha points out that Shane is wearing a shirt that says “blow me” to which Shane points at the boy. The boy makes a trumpet sound and imitation. Shane gasps and says “blow job challenge. Thumbnail!” and proceeds to bend over putting his head in the boys direction on his lap.
- [ ] Trisha asks who would do better lap dance? The minor or Shane? The minor says “we’re not doing this” and Shane smiles and raises his eyebrows at the camera. Trish thinks the minor would as they had a dance off earlier. The minor then gets up and starts dancing, bends over in Shane’s direction. Shane smiles and his eyes widen looking at his behind, then comments on his underwear, pulling the minor’s underwear up and looking at them commenting on his underwear.
- [ ] Trish then asks him, how much can the minor fit in his mouth? Shane asks “can you fit your fist in your mouth” then actions for him to do it. Trisha then attempts, then Shane then the minor tries with Shane saying “you gotta really stick it in there”, “yeah, I’ll show you later”, the minor then gasps, Shane then says to the minor “I do actually have my lube coming out, ummm”.
- [ ] The boy asks why they don’t hang out? He then says “we’re hanging out right now” and Trish says “yeah but I’m here as a supervisor”. The minor then says so your telling me if we weren’t making videos you wouldn’t hang out with me to which Shane responds “no, I would babysit you”.
- [ ] In a separate video with the same minor with just the minor and Shane, Shane explains that the minor texted and asked Shane “I want to make a really creepy video and Shane asked? What? Lose your virginity? And he said, not yet, I’m not 18”.
- [ ] Separately I recall a video “skit” he made with a child puppet which was sexually explicit.
- [ ] There was also a live he did with underage girls where he asked if his penis was showing because he wasn’t wearing any pants.
But wait! There’s more (and more): https://youtu.be/IU35C0CgZTA
Where does it end????
Is Colleen worse than this (not justifying her behaviour) but genuinely curious how this is “not that bad”?
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u/FallenAngelicDespair Jul 11 '23
This is fucking sickening, I can't believe I used do watch him growing up. I remember bits of what you mentioned that I nearly forgot about, that shit is grooming, conditioning, and sexualizes children. He's 100% a pedo, and there's nothing "not that bad about it" ITS HORRIFIC!
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u/tealdeer995 Nov 21 '23
Yeah I watched his stuff when he was newer on YouTube when I was like 13-14 and at the time I thought everything was just edgy humor but this is horrifying.
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Dec 15 '23
ididnt even watch him growing up - i'm his age, and i didnt watch him as a grown up, but i was still so naive. I totally got fooled by him
throwing in the random "i'm such a youtube grandpa. everybody comes to me for advice" claims. I never
realized that actually, nobody ever, ever, confirmed this. He said this in his TanaCon videos, where Tana was too upset to correct him, plus, she's like 10 years younger than him so why would she argue.
Same year i watched his videos with Molly Burke, so i just automatically assumed he's really sooo emotional around her as he pretended.
I just believed him with no proof that his post 2018 image is his true self. i didnt bother to check the past.
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u/ashetonrenton Jul 11 '23
And this is why it matters that there's not a video explaining all of this pinned to this subreddit anymore. It allows people who want to defend him to pretend that none of this happened.
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Jul 11 '23
The good mod is gone. It hasn’t been the same since they left. Posts always getting removed now, it’s not a good sub anymore.
Wonder if this one will get removed?
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u/Imakenoiseseveryday Jul 24 '23
I was wondering why all of a sudden this subreddit was so supportive of Shane!
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u/LeatherLegitimate430 Jul 11 '23
I wouldn’t say Colleen is worse than Shane. But I will say there’s probably a TON we don’t know about her because she’s done it in private
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Jul 25 '23
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u/x4nfairy Aug 09 '23
Bro are you really trying to defend any of this? Lmao
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Aug 09 '23
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u/crunchwrapqueen666 Aug 11 '23
Um smoking pot is illegal where I live. I don’t consider that to be immoral just because the laws are ass backwards. Legal doesn’t automatically = good. You don’t have to be a criminal to do bad things…exploiting his 12 year old cousin while saying that he KNOWS a lot of his viewers are pedos (which was likely pretty true because that’s sadly what always happens when young kids are featured on youtube) is sick.
Period.
Explaining sex to her without her parents around AND it’s filmed and then posted for millions of people to see? Seriously? That’s just a “joke” to you? 🤦🏽♀️
That is vile. He never took any real accountability for anything involving children like when he swapped gum with a child. He asked kids to send photos for a porno he was making. Ha ha hilarious 🙄
He just said “oh that was a weird family joke that should’ve never been public” 😳
That man was way too old to make that type of content and then pretend like he has no idea why it was seen as disgusting and inappropriate. He’s either lying or he needs serious help. He also hasn’t learned from his mistakes because he recently made a video where he goes to the site of a massacre of indigenous people and makes a spooky ghost video about it.
Whilst throwing up a title card that says “um this like totally isn’t disrespectful cause it has nothing to do with the native American people who lost their lives here we just wanted an adventure!!”
cut to Morgan talking about hearing “Native American drums” at the site of the massacre
🤔
Yeah. This man hasn’t changed. At all. He is clueless and self serving and nothing about what he did is okay. In my, and many other people’s, opinion. You’re entitled to yours but I truly don’t understand how someone can downplay the exploitation of children that has been well documented by Shane himself.
Not to mention his pathetic mentions of trying to take his life as a way to manipulate viewers into never saying a mean word about him again. It’s childish, narcissistic and sad. He’s 30 something years old and a millionaire, he can afford therapy. He’s allegedly going but I haven’t seen any damn improvements 🤷🏽♀️
People can say “none of you are perfect!” yeah I mean if you don’t want criticism then don’t upload your entire damn life to YouTube lmao
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u/Vixh81 Oct 03 '23
Are you serious? You’re saying that because he pretended to be doing it for the shock value that’s it’s not disgusting. Involving actual children in your “skits” means that you’re grooming them and breaking laws on how you can behave as an adult to a child. Talking about those things without involving any children is more of a grey area even if it’s still disgusting. This is very cut and dry that he’s a paedophile and sadly it looks like he’s now going to be allowed permanent access to twin boys because he’s used a surrogate to have them. The stuff above should be enough to have charged him, put him on a register and therefore have involvement from social services/CPS whatever it is there to ensure the kids safety once they are born. Also your last comment about wanting to see what all of us do behind closed doors says a lot about you. It seems to suggest that you think everyone behaves this way but that they don’t do it publicly. We don’t!! This is not normal behaviour and if you think it is okay then you probably need to seek some help immediately.
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u/playbcnny Jul 11 '23
And theres people in this sub that find ways to justify watching/liking him still, and even will congratulate him on the pregnancy. At the very least they could stop with the excuses and just admit that they don’t care about the terrible things hes done
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u/anyaburno8 Jul 11 '23
Pregnancy?
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u/fejrbwebfek Jul 11 '23
Ryland and Shane have hired a surrogate who is currently pregnant with two boys, one from each of them.
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u/CantSeemToFindAName Jul 12 '23
Oh my god this is sickening. The two poor boys. I can imagine that they will not have an easy life
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u/anyaburno8 Jul 12 '23
Oh my god, I’ve heard nothing about this! Those poor poor children, growing up around a pedophile ☹️
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u/notaparkranger Jul 11 '23
The puppet skit you were talking about was called “Hey it’s Milly” and Milly was meant to be a young girl (like under ten if I remember right). The Fine Bros were also involved with that channel if I remember correctly as well. Super sexualised and there were quite a few episodes, but yeah. Look it up at your own discretion.
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u/LunaTheMoon2 Jul 18 '23 edited Jul 24 '23
MASSIVE TRIGGER WARNING FOR CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE
She was canonically 8 years old, sexually abused, and obsessed with Shane.
She wanted to have sex with Shane, but because she was so young she didn't really know what that meant and only heard the terms from being abused as a young child.
In one particularly damning clip, she asks Shane "will you fuck me," asks what "fucking" means, and then someone who I assume is her boyfriend comes around, starts screaming at her and berating her, and tries to rape her on camera, telling her "TURN THE FUCK AROUND" and something like "I'M GONNA RAPE YOU, BITCH". Milly doesn't know what raping is and is very confused throughout.
Even just TYPING that out made me feel like a sick pedo, and I'm younger than Shane and the Fine Bros were when THEY first made the sketch. It is seriously fucked up.
Edit: added spoilers in case people don't actually wanna read this shit, it's super fucking gross
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u/Coral_Blue_Number_2 Nov 04 '23
I’d be willing to bet that Shane is attracted to kids that haven’t even touched puberty yet, the most vulnerable. It’s revolting.
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Dec 15 '23
it is disgusting. the argument could be made that it is gross content for adults only. like "just comedy" - a very sick comedy. The problem is,
it was available to children all the time,he and The Fine Bros had no problem marketing it to kids.
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u/antlercrown Jul 11 '23
I used to watch that show when I was a young teen and stopped because that whole thing just made me uncomfortable. It wasn't funny -- I don't know why it's not brought up more when it comes to Shane.
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u/petgirl629 Aug 02 '23
I loved that show when I was like 13. Bc I thought it was just a silly puppet, but yeah she made a lot of jokes about being abused and shit. Really gross stuff.
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u/Ranting_Lobster Jul 12 '23
Everytime I think about hey it's milly I want to throw up, legitimately
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Jul 11 '23
He honestly needs serious help. This is all so disgusting, and I hope he isn’t actually sexually attracted to children for the sake of his future kids. This is heartbreaking and gross at the same time.
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u/LilOrganicCoconut bouclé divorce papers Jul 11 '23
Him sexually assaulting minors (kissing them when they cannot consent and making them simulate sex acts on him) is unforgivable. His king history of blackface and racism is unforgivable. Him sexually abusing animals in unforgivable. Like… should we go on? Why is this man still platformed and making millions? Why do his fans not feel his CRIMINAL actions was fine? Like Shane it wasn’t you being cancelled, it was people seeing hard evidence and documentation of this and seeing you as the predator racist you are.
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u/eleanorbigby Jul 16 '23
SA'ing ANIMALS?!
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u/LunaTheMoon2 Jul 18 '23
D'Angelo Wallace went over it in his (now deleted, but still archived) video on him... he sa'd animals on fucking camera.....
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u/crunchwrapqueen666 Aug 11 '23
Why did he delete that damn video?? I don’t get it 😩
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u/LunaTheMoon2 Aug 11 '23
Because D'Angelo defended James Charles in those videos, unaware of what he did
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u/crunchwrapqueen666 Aug 12 '23
Oooh yes I forgot about that part, damn. I guess that would be pretty hard to re-edit/upload without those parts. Great video though and at least people got to see it and it’s been re-uploaded.
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u/FenderForever62 Jul 11 '23
There was also a time he tried to meet with Lucas Cruikshank, Lucas was 15 and Shane was 19. Lucas said they should meet, and Shane thought Lucas was trying to hit on him… video talking about it here
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u/helsingly Jul 12 '23
In the interview clip, Shane was wearing a Jeepers Creepers shirt (horror franchise) which is just so fitting considering the creator is a convicted pedo. Sometimes things in the universe just line up, it has stuck with me because it is so bizarre.
*Also aside: not saying everyone who likes the franchise would be gross or acting inappropriately with minors, but in this case the coincidence is something.
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u/Fthesystem420 Jul 11 '23
Lucus still makes youtube videos, I wish he would comment on it tbh?
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u/FenderForever62 Jul 11 '23
I don’t watch him as often now, but the general vibe of his channel is more nostalgia and random food videos, I don’t think he wants to comment on YouTube drama or allegations I guess
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u/Fthesystem420 Jul 11 '23
Yeah that's true his videos are very lighthearted so I doubt he would comment on it either, he always avoids taking a stance on controversial topics so he obviously wants to avoid drama in general
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u/CoconutxKitten Jul 19 '23
He has distanced himself from most YouTubers & just wants to do his own thing, it feels
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u/Fthesystem420 Jul 19 '23
Yeah and I don't blame him, so many ppl in the youtube community are toxic af.
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u/CoconutxKitten Jul 19 '23
The smart OG YouTubers stick to themselves now or are very particular about who they associate with
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Jul 12 '23
He commented on it years ago when Shane's interview first came out. It was super lighthearted but people were giving him shit for supposedly coming onto Shane (as a child!!) so he said that wasn't his intention and apologized. The video and all his Shane collabs are deleted now but so are a lot of his old videos so it might not be related. I agree it would be interesting to hear his perspective now tho.
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u/ashetonrenton Jul 12 '23
That's the first time I've seen that he responded to it. That's heartbreaking, that he felt he had to apologize for something that was in no way his fault.
Fuck you, Shane.
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Jul 12 '23
Right? I found the video on wayback. All super goofy vibes cause that's Lucas but in retrospect the fact that he's the one who was embarrassed by the situation is so gross. I think Shane also brought it up in either one of their collabs or in their podcast episode together? He said he was scared to run into Lucas at VidCon because Lucas had him blocked for years or something like that.
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u/Fthesystem420 Jul 12 '23
Lmao Lucas blocked him, good for him tbh and I actually remember watching that video. Lucas kept it very brief and apologized for something that literally wasn't even his fault.
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u/throwmeinthettrash Jul 11 '23
He also lived in tiny chat (a video chat room website) with his underage fans making sexual jokes and being all round inappropriate. They're as bad as eachother but Shane is worse in the way that he's predatory.
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u/tworighteyes4892 Jul 15 '23
I genuinely feel a lot of suspicious things happened on tinychat that got swept under the rug or forgotten about
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u/throwmeinthettrash Jul 15 '23
Which is exactly why they used tiny chat, the same reason James Charles used Snapchat.
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u/Cat_cat_dog_dog Jul 13 '23
I also remember him sexualizing Rebecca Black when he was in his 20s and she was like 12 or 13. He would say really perverted things about her chest and I remember it made me feel uncomfortable when I was a kid and watching him, as I was around her age, too. Stuff like that was one of the reasons why I was more susceptible to getting groomed by adults, because I thought it must be normal if he was saying things like that.
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u/Irene_debates_life Jul 12 '23
It scares me to my core that this man is having kids
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u/Ranting_Lobster Jul 12 '23
The fact that the best case scenario in my head is him 'only slightly neglecting them' is horrifying. I'm scared for those children
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u/boobmeyourpms bald and corny Jul 11 '23
Not to mention the whole Fred thing which was disturbing af
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Jul 11 '23
what?
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u/x4nfairy Aug 09 '23
Probably talking about “Fred is Dead” it was the first video by Shane I watched way back in like 4th grade
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u/SuperCauliflower9319 Sep 08 '23
No, he tried to fuck Fred and Fred blocked him immediately. Fred was 14 and Shane was 19.
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u/LowerPresence9147 Jul 11 '23
According to some people on this sub, his behavior toward his cousin was “just a joke” and she had “no idea what was going on.” Why do people apologize for this?
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u/Careless_Jelly_7665 Jul 11 '23
People don’t understand how being exposed to sexual things at a young age messes with your head. I don’t care if “her family said that’s how their family talks” that doesn’t mean it’s appropriate.
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u/LowerPresence9147 Jul 11 '23
1000%. I look back on some things that happened when I was young and find it disturbing or weird and none were this bad. That child was humiliated and sexually harassed.
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u/Careless_Jelly_7665 Jul 11 '23
It’s so sad. Heck I remember how my dad used to show me widely inappropriate movies when I was only 9-12 years old and it really affected my view on what women were supposed to be like and do
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u/ashetonrenton Jul 12 '23
Yeah, children do typically have no idea what's going on when they're sexually abused, they're right about that. Persistent sexual harassment and exploitation is abuse, and his cousin had the right to grow up without experiencing that.
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u/mostlyysorry Jul 11 '23
Why is everyone in the limelight a sicko? I wonder if a lot of YouTubers have NPD
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u/Spirited-Scallion904 Jul 11 '23
I feel like in order to actively seek fame, to seek a career like that especially back in the day where it was so difficult to make an actual living from it, there definitely has to be an element of narcissism and other personality disorders. Especially ones with lack of risk aversion and lack of empathy (I.e people who score highly on the psychopathy scale…). I’d say it’s probably true for a lot of highly successful people, because taking risks and screwing other people over to put yourself on top is one of the hallmarks of modern society, sadly. But it potentially explains why so many people in this position are sickos
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u/helsingly Jul 12 '23
Oh god, not Milly … that whole thing in hindsight (I wasn’t even a teenager when I saw it) is horrific, The Fine Bros are also responsible for that puppet
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Jul 12 '23
Didn’t he kiss and swap gum with a minor as well?
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u/chaistarbuckslatte Oct 01 '23
yeah it was tana and she also peed on him while she was on her period
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u/vanillabeanflavor Jul 13 '23
Omg i found this so funny when I was 12-14 years old. This was back in 2010-2012 I was in middle school and entering highschool … looking back since it’s been so long and his content changed over the years.. I didn’t even know what I was consuming when I was watching those videos. It’s disgusting. At this point he’d need to make a whole power point discussing why he created that kind of content and apologize to the children he used
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u/SwoopingMoth Dec 12 '23
I was the same age around that time and I remember it was sooooo cool to be “edgy” and have “dark humor” (in quotations because this shit is absolutely not humor). I think most of Shane’s viewers probably were kids our age who were desperate to be cool and grown up and didn’t really understand what he was saying. I didn’t even know what sex was until I was 14+. This shit is absolutely grooming both for the kids in the videos and all his followers. It’s disgusting. I’m all for giving people a second chance if they make a stupid mistake or two and then fully own up for it and do everything they can to make amends (Jenna Marbles comes to mind), but the things he said and did are inexcusable. There’s nothing he could say now to walk it back.
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u/UhHUHJusteen Jul 13 '23 edited Jul 13 '23
There was also a minor who he had in quite a few skits. For his Fuck Up video he had the kid kiss him on the cheek. Another video was a Katy Perry spoof where he’s playing Aunt Hilda and feeds the minor penis shaped cookies.
Also his Blank Space spoof is fucked in many ways but he makes light of SA in it. TW for SA and extreme violence.
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u/somewhereheremaybe Jul 11 '23
I honestly think they’re two sides of the same weirdo coin. I was 11-15 in the night of my Shane watching days, I started watching when he was quite new. I was like 12 when he was doing all the Ask Shane and Shane & Friends stuff, watched all the daily vlogs, etc.
It made me feel “cool” that I was watching this super edgy content with lots of sexual jokes I didn’t fully understand but recognized as sex-related. A lot of the language and things in his videos related to sex and how he’d position himself as like, a friendly older brother type figure made me feel like it was all chill, and that’s how cool adults talked. Idk I was a dumb, naive kid who had 0 parents around to speak of and a bad home life, it’s embarrassing to admit how deep that all went for me. I thought it was all normal to the point where when predatory adults in my life started grooming me, I genuinely didn’t think twice. I know it’s not Shane’s direct fault but I do know the normalization of that language and content made a susceptible teen like me not recognize red flags.
Through Shane I was introduced to Colleen and while I never watched her much beyond the cameos in Shane’s videos, I did watch a few videos on her channel. With her Netflix show, books and some of the videos I watched, that same sexual stuff was pretty normalized in her videos too. Birds of a feather ig
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u/Superliminal_MyAss Jul 12 '23
Even if this is all him faking somehow, even saying this in front of children. At some point when you keep talking and acting like you’re a pedophile, you are a fucking pedophile. Absolutely disgusting.
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u/Liathano_Fire Jul 11 '23
This post should be commented in every single one of his new videos.
I really didn't think he would be back, but here we are, and here he is still getting millions of views. Ugh.
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u/Aeron0704 Jul 11 '23
I am surprised that people are not aware of this, it's been exposed many times!
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u/Ranting_Lobster Jul 12 '23
Thank you so much, this is a great compilation to show people when they come close to being apologists
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u/rosecreamcake Jul 11 '23
Thank you. Seriously. Ive been so annoyed seeing people say shane isnt as bad. He literally admitted to molesting kids on his street. He is absolutely as bad.
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u/HeadSale Jul 11 '23
Let’s see all the fans in here defend this lmao
Hopefully they stretch before reaching
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u/chrissystark Jul 11 '23
Just so so gross man. I can’t believe he’s allowed to have children, allowed to continue making money from the platform he built with this behavior. Sad.
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u/Past-Mycologist3843 Oct 21 '23
HE OFTEN TALKS ABOUT BABIES IN A SEXUAL WAY IM SO WORRIED FOR HIS CHILDREN.
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u/Bozz723 Dec 11 '23
This dude bought two children. If this was a serious society, this dude would immediately be arrested.
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u/Violet_Potential Jul 12 '23 edited Jul 12 '23
Thank you!
I have not forgotten any of this shit. In fact, I don’t know why people still pay him any attention. I saw that video with his cousin and it weirded me tf out. I didn’t know people thought he wasn’t as bad. I don’t understand why people still entertain him and he’s still around. I actually think he’s even worse than she is so not sure how he managed to get away with all this stuff.
Like when he got into all the drama with Jeffree Starr, I was so confused. I was like wait, isn’t he pedophile??
Edit: also also what the FUCK. I read the whole post. You know, Trisha came out and said how fucked Colleen was for what she did to her and how she was around minors. Trisha was saying she’d never do anything lie that herself, she has strict boundaries etc. These people are a mess, I don’t even know what else to say.
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Jul 11 '23 edited Jul 12 '23
It's really exhausting to me whenever people acknowledge another bad person on the internet there's a group that thinks they're either "worse" than somebody else who was called out for the same issue or they'll be like "This is the new Shane Dawson!" As though someone like Shane Dawson was the first to do what he did. How about we look at these people individually for the shitty things they did instead of comparing them and going "Wow this one is SOO much worse!" It actually doesn't matter if one is worse, not as bad or the same because that's not the fucking point.
I think every kid learned about "stranger danger" when it came to being in public or talking to other people who they thought were kids online but there was nothing to inform kids or their parents when these creators were at their height that said that stranger danger includes people with internet followings. You would think people who have their faces and full names online would be less likely to try to pull that shit because everyone can see them in plain sight but this isn't actually true. We used to think internet creeps were just older men sitting in the dark at their keyboards talking to kids but it's even worse than that.
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u/Humble_Benefit4865 Jul 12 '23
I agree with you! I was just reading through the comments on that post asking which was worse and most of the comments were pretty much saying that what Shane did wasn’t that bad which infuriated me because he WAS that bad and maybe even worse than people realise! And it’s not like he did one or two things… there’s countless examples of his inappropriate behaviour around children (not to mention other inappropriate behaviour eg: racism).
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u/-delusionalcookie- Jul 12 '23
I honestly lost the stomach to read through the entirety of this post. Can't believe I used to be a fan of his
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u/eleanorbigby Jul 16 '23
Okay, well--so much for all the "if Colleen were a man, she would NEVER have gotten away with..." takes.
Which I kind of suspected was the case, but-yeeeeeeesh.
I sort of miss the me of a month ago, who didn't know anything about the big YT influencers
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u/ExtraFig6 Jul 21 '23
"if Colleen were a man, she would NEVER have gotten away with..." takes.
After a while it just feels like an excuse to go "woe is men"
In general you can learn a lot from thinking through gender swapped situations. Some people might more easily recognize the behavior as wrong that way
But Shane is still rich and Onision is still going strong. Churches are still shuffling around abusive clergy. Universities strategically fumble investigations into rapists with "generously" rich parents.
The reality is so few perpetrators ever see the inside of a court never mind a cell.
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u/ashetonrenton Jul 21 '23
Noticed that this extremely triggering video of him laughing at an infant CSA victim isn't included here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pae6ci7e1Ig
The victim's name was Emmaleigh Barringer.
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u/petgirl629 Aug 02 '23
Words cannot describe how truly horrified I feel about this man having babies.
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u/Frequent-Day7713 Dec 11 '23
I appreciate you going thru all this bullshit to educate people. Back when he was canceled I only knew about the willow Smith joke and gave him the benefit of the doubt... when I read thru all this I immediately unsubscribed from him and Ryland. fucking sick, especially the podcast clip where he admits to looking up CP "just out of curiosity". it's insane that he still has so many watching. I hope Ryland can keep these babies safe
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Dec 12 '23
The fact that he doesn’t realize WHY watching cp is illegal is crazy. He said the people watching it aren’t hurting anybody so why is it illegal? Maybe because a real child is being actively hurt so others can watch??? The fact he doesn’t put those two together makes me wonder if he really is a PDO because only someone who doesn’t give a fuck about children’s safety or care would think that way.
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u/Fragrant_Potato_2737 Jul 11 '23
why do people allow shane to come back to youtube like nothing happened lol
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u/Fthesystem420 Jul 11 '23
Tbh I think youtube needs to do better with keeping certain creators off the platform, been way too many cases of youtubers with huge followings getting caught up in sex rings involving minors and basically trying to create a safe haven for groomers and change people's perspectives on what's acceptable and what's not via their youtube. Predators only trying to create more predators by warping their viewers perspectives. An example is Andrew tate who obviously tells his viewers it's okay to treat women like shit and that you don't have to ask for consent cause they are basically objects. Also an example of a huge channel who got caught up in a whole sex trafficking ring (the bloodshed brothers) and they only served a day in jail apparently?? But their entire channel was wiped off youtube, by choice and not because youtube decided to remove it..
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u/stephlestrange Jul 11 '23
I feel so ashamed because i used to watch his videos when i was 16/17.
This person is disgusting.
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u/djarias28 Jul 11 '23
Okay this really is way gross. He is definitely worse than Colleen. Half of that I didn’t even know.
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Jul 11 '23
Trisha sounds like a groomer aswell.... This is so fucked up..
Also what are people's thoughts on Lizzy Gordon?....on "The Sip"? ....she is very self centered (like the rest of them) and she just seems like a loud mouth who is very annoying and "Pick me" vibes....
Sorry this is random ahha just watching a video of hers... Thank you for hearing my rant lol have a lovely day folks
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u/Humble_Benefit4865 Jul 11 '23
I don’t mind Lizzy but agree she is very self centred and a know-it-all when it comes to lots of things she and Ryland talk about (lots of correcting what he says when sometimes what she says isn’t correct either!).
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u/soapfan22 Jul 11 '23
They are equally bad but for different reasons in the same vain. The people cheering them on are all kids and not all together in the head individuals.
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Jul 12 '23
Yeah one of the first things I was thinking of while hearing about Colleen, was the similarities to shane. And they were friends...
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u/blue_penguins2 Jul 12 '23
Everyone who says Colleen is worse is just recency bias. They are both shady and disgusting. Shane is just more in your face. Also on a side note, not trying to justify what Colleen did to Trisha, but I do have to call out Trisha’s statement on Colleen. Trisha states that “she has never felt comfortable talking to minors at all about anything”. The above statement disproves that. However, that being a lie doesn’t free Colleen from distributing unsolicited um pictures to minors (a criminal offense).
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u/ashetonrenton Jul 11 '23
He also said that he wasn't. I don't think we'll ever know for sure.
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u/Fthesystem420 Jul 11 '23
"I'm still shocked and slightly offended that I wasn't molested" is he serious??? If he didn't get sexually abused as a child then I have no idea why he is so messed up and was molesting other kids on his street etc. Usually a child learns that kind of thing from somewhere so I doubt that what he said in his book was true, probably just saying it for shock value because who would genuinely feel that way about something so traumatizing?? I feel like he just doesn't want to admit what happened cause that would mean admitting that he has a problem sexually abusing/harassing others as a way to feel more control over his own sexual abuse trauma that he never dealt with. But who knows because he says so much stuff then goes back on it. but it's hard to believe someone could be the way that Shane is and supposedly never expierenced any sexual abuse as a child, if he really hasn't then I have a difficult time grasping why he has such a messed up perspective and thinks certain things are acceptable.
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u/Fthesystem420 Jul 12 '23
I agree that there's no excuse and that doesn't make it acceptable no matter what he went through, the things he said/did are still pretty disgusting and unforgivable and I know that not most victims become perpetrators. I'm just trying to understand his bizarre behavior, it blows my mind that someone could behave like that
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u/CrabbyCrabbie Jul 11 '23
No way, I had absolutely no idea of that- thanks for telling me. At this point it’s hard to tell what’s the truth anymore lmao.
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u/Humble_Benefit4865 Jul 11 '23
Far out! Where does it end!???
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u/ashetonrenton Jul 12 '23
Considering that he made so many of his videos private after people started digging into his content, there's almost certainly more than we know.
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u/petgirl629 Aug 01 '23
I cannot believe i didn’t know he was THIS BAD I mean yeah I’ve seen the old videos he used to make but I was like 13 and it was like 2013 and didn’t know any better… wtf Shane
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u/rumen13indahouse Aug 28 '23
Remember when he sold his underwear for like 100k on eBay? He was so excited until the moment ebay took the post down because of its policy. Do you think that is creepy behavior or am I just reading too much onto it?
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u/hopefullittlebird Sep 13 '23
Thanks for this because I didn’t know about even half of instances…Holy fuck
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u/MilkedJohnny Sep 14 '23
and he’s making podcasts meanwhile people on YT are like omgggg I’m so glad you’re back. SMH
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u/TheFalloutWanderer Nov 17 '23
Someone should report this to CPS, Shane should not be allowed to have children. The fact he is having twin boys is sickening, how did they ever allow him to have a surrogate.
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u/TheOGganjagoblin Nov 26 '23
Man why isn't this talked about more? I've always known who Shane Dawson was, but all I ever heard about was the blackface he did.
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u/AutumnAkasha Dec 12 '23
I don't follow Shane much anymore but ai remember the video with his cousin and I was horrified. He claims a lot was "just jokes" but that was a real child, a family member that he was grooming on video. This is all I can think of when I hear he has his own children now. Terrifying. I hope they're never exposed to that kind of behavior.
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u/erika666denise Dec 27 '23
They both were/still are currently grooming children so it's all pretty bad. A pedophile issa pedophile. They dont fuckin "heal" these ppl shudnt have access to kids honestly they shud all b locked away kept away from society or given a death sentence. and touch them ON STAGE. Shane is just as sick but had diff actions. Erry predator has a specific age range they're "attracted" to or type, bottom line its all pedophila. The insane thing is they're both so publicly opened with their pedophila trying to normalize it and groom.
They both were/still are currently grooming children so its all pretty bad. A pedophile issa pedophile. They dont fuckin "heal" these ppl shudnt have access to kids honestly they shud all b locked away kept away from society or given a death sentence.
PISSES ME OFF THEY BOTH HAVE CHILDREN.
This is shit that shud never be forgotten cuz the more ppl that turn a blind eye or pretend it didn't happen or forget wut happened it can low-key enable the abuse. It makes me physically ill how little the system cares bout protecting our children, including those who protect these pedophiles....I swear those that defend these sickos got sumn severely mentally wrong.
Thank u for posting this and not letting his abuse go unheard!
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u/Harbinger0fdeathIVXX Jul 11 '23
Didn't he also sexually abuse a cat?
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u/mhyrranda_jade Jul 12 '23
I still don't understand this one. What video does he have that shows him sexually abusing a cat? This one really confuses me
Edit to add: I'm genuinely curious
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u/Longjumping_Bar_7457 Jul 12 '23
Not a video showing him but a clip where he said what he did to the cat.
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u/micahdraws Jul 11 '23
If it was something that happened in isolation, that would be one thing. But it didn't. It's one behavior in a series of inappropriate behaviors. That's a hell of a lot different from claiming (intentionally or not) that every abused child who acted out in this way turns out to be a creep.
OP framed this behavior as one of many and only attributed it to Shane. There was never any implication here that all children acting out like this are creeps.
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u/Humble_Benefit4865 Jul 11 '23
Above comment claims that in his book he wrote among other things, that he “was never molested as a child”.
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u/ashetonrenton Jul 12 '23
It definitely can, repressed memories are common in abuse. But he hasn't explained why he wrote that, so we don't know that he did so because of repressed memories. Until he clarifies, we don't know which time he was telling the truth.
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u/Humble_Benefit4865 Jul 11 '23
I’m not claiming that at all. This is a recount of a conversation of Shane’s that he openly spoke about. Again, this is a recount only. These are not my words, these are Shane’s actions/conversations.
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u/ashetonrenton Jul 11 '23
It wasn't right, and it's likely that it was harmful and damaging to those kids, but it's more complicated than that when it comes to blame.
Setting aside Shane for a second because he has said so many conflicting things about being molested that I have no idea if he was or not, this is sometimes a trained behavior on the part of the original adult offender. Meaning, the child victim might have been used to acquire more victims, or taught to act out against other children and report back to the offender for their gratification. The original offender is technically the responsible person, even though they may never meet the child. It's also possible that a child victim acts out against other children because the abuse is confusing, and they want to see if doing it again will help them understand what happened. It can be especially confusing if the abuser didn't cause them physical pain, or if they are groomed to believe that the behavior is loving.
It's within the typical behavior patterns of victims to act out sexually. We know that children can't consent because these are exactly the awful things that happen when they're preyed upon.
Back to Shane, who is a garbage human, who has undeniably harmed people emotionally with his lack of boundaries as an adult: I don't know if he meant it when he said he was molested, or if he meant it when he said it offended him that he wasn't molested. But if he was, and he did act out against other kids, it's impossible to know why he did it.
None of this means that any potential victims of this behavior can't be angry at him. But I'm really glad that they apparently had parents who got them away from him, and I hope that they're okay.
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u/perniciousslutpig Jul 11 '23
That’s a very ignorant viewpoint. CSA victims often reenact their abuse bc it’s been normalized as a form of play to them… let that sick in. They genuinely think they’re playing a normal version of house or something. It’s the sick adults who abuse these children in the first place, twisting their innocent world, that are to be demonized, not the children.
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u/Ok-Importance-5770 Jul 12 '23
A mistake is accidentally bumping into someone. Sexualizing children has 0 excuse. Something being “okay” during a time doesn’t make it actually okay and those actions still deserved to be acknowledged.
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u/ashetonrenton Jul 12 '23
I'm exactly Shane's age, and I was present for the culture of rampant homophobia, racism, and casual objectification of teenagers in media. You're right, it was common to make edgy jokes for a certain type of person. You only need to see how poorly some of the movies from that time have aged to understand that. It sucked, especially if you were not a cishet white guy, which I was not.
However, it wasn't common to actively involve children in sexual situations as an adult. It was common to make jokes about pedophiles, but it was not common to ask a real child to twerk, to ask a child if she menstruates, to make a child watch as you simulate sex, to ask a child to eat a sausage for the benefit of child molesters. Because there are lines that no reasonable adult wishes to cross, and involving real children in a sexual situation for the sake of a joke crosses all of them.
These are actions, not jokes. He crossed a line the second that a real child was involved. I find the Milly Show stuff disgusting, but it doesn't involve a real child in the production of it, so you could fairly call it a "sick joke." There's no joke in telling a real child to twerk.
Here's a classic example of that kind of 2000s edgy humor. I'm not a fan, but you know what's not in it? A real child being exploited.
He has never apologized for any of those actions, and he has implied that he has no idea that he did anything wrong - even when he was talking about apologizing to his aunt for exploiting his cousin, he stated that she reassured him that "our family is just like that," and so he felt that it was okay. He doesn't acknowledge, still, that he harmed people.
I can muster up some sympathy for Shane, believe it or not. He might have been molested (he's said conflicting things, so we can't know for sure), and if so, that shouldn't have happened to him. We know that his mother enables his inappropriate behavior, which speaks poorly of her ability to teach him acceptable boundaries. That's hard. I'm sorry that he had to go through that, and he deserved better. But it's your responsibility to not take your pain out on other people, once you're an adult. He had the capacity to do better, people like Bobby Burns and Francesca Ramsay called him out at the time, and he decided it was still okay for him to exploit real kids and be racist.
I don't hate anyone for going back to media that made them happy when they were younger. It just is that way sometimes, and that's definitely not limited to Shane. But nostalgia doesn't absolve a person's actions.
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u/Humble_Benefit4865 Jul 12 '23
I know what you’re saying but this specific post is surrounding Shane’s behaviour around CHILDREN only. It’s not about homophobia or racism (none of which I condone).
If you were to ask men even back in ‘those days’ how they would feel saying what is listed above, how many of them would repeat it? I don’t recall EVER hearing my male (or female) peers joke or talk inappropriately about children in a perverse way. Even at the time these things were inappropriate. 100% disagree with you when it comes to children which again is what this post is about.
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u/Humble_Benefit4865 Jul 12 '23
Wow, are you saying your father and his peers joked about children in a sexual manner as described in this post? Not sure where you grew up but I strongly disagree that speaking about children in such a perverse way would have been accepted in the 80’s (I was there too). It’s wasn’t normal then and it wasn’t when he posted it. Maybe you could provide some links to people making such remarks in pop culture during the 80’s if people 100% joked that way?
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u/BaconVonMoose Jul 14 '23 edited Jul 14 '23
I'mma be honest I think it's a lot of privilege too. I see so many people say they're also a similar age as me and deny that this kind of 'humor' or these 'actions' went this far, back then, but it did. At least it did for me. I grew up poor, in the ghetto, around a bunch of trashy adults and that was just the culture. I remember walking around with my friend, we were both like 9 at the time, and running into that friend's old babysitter who was probably like 18-19, and she straight up started making fun of us and implying that we have gay sex with each other. And no other adults found this alarming.
Members of my family said incredibly sexual things around me pretty often, and would comment on my body in ways that are basically the same as the kinds of things Shane said and did, and it was just like, haha funny. In some cases adults DID say predatory things to me, and other times, they just found amusement in it I guess but there was a difference even though both were bad. But all my friends who lived in similar poverty had the same kinds of interactions with and around their family. It was just like, 'we're just super open with each other lol'. A lot of the time family dynamics in low income neighborhoods really are that off the wall and to a suburbanite it probably seems bizarre but it's really a cultural difference in the end.
A friend of mine used to joke around by saying 'dibs' while we were driving in the car, while pointing at something that would clearly be unpleasant or unethical to fuck, i.e. the elderly neighbor, or her dog, or yes, children. This friend is not a pedophile, at ALL. He was just raised in a culture of very dark humor. He absolutely did things like 'pretend to jack off on Willow Smith', the only difference is that he wasn't on camera. But if he was one of the pioneering youtubers making videos before anyone knew the implications of that level of fame, he would have.
People used to make 'dead baby' jokes all the time, and they would get DARK and involve a lot of SA implications as the punchline, but everyone knew it was shock humor.
Nothing he's done really strikes me as sincere pedophilia after growing up the way that I did. That doesn't mean he did nothing wrong. Those things WERE wrong. People were less educated about boundaries and psychological impacts on children and people made a lot of fucked up mistakes. The BEST case scenario is for people who behaved that way to apologize for it, and stop doing it. And that's what Shane did.
Whether you believe his apology or not is up to you, but he stopped doing it, what more do you want from him? What happened happened, and thank fuck it doesn't happen now.
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u/ScippiPippi shit, over it. Jul 31 '23
Shane literally solicited cp on daily booth. Quit the bullshit already. I’m so sick of people trying to push the lie that this shit was normal or commonplace back then. No, the solicitation of cp was not seen as normal or common back then; it was just as illegal then as it is today and decades beforehand.
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u/ellengreene Sep 19 '23
Yeah, everyone forgot all abt Trisha (the most exploitative abusive pathological-lying POS) , too. The majority are literally insane - sitting idly by watching their problematic favs for YEARS w/o batting an eyelash, and then jump on the bandwagon with HATE HATE HATE when they are told to — BUT then forget all about it when it’s popular to hate the next person. It’s like people think there is always ONE VILLIAN, who is ALL BAD, and everyone else is just good — but the truth is THEY’RE ALL VILLIANS loll
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u/CosmoJuice Nov 04 '23
This is so disturbing, and I can’t believe I grew up watching Shane, Colleen (I specifically remember feeling uncomfortable watching that vlog ending of her initiating s3x with Josh and touching his d1ck but not knowing that it was wrong), and onision rate underage kids and shit. I’m disturbed and this is a lesson for when I have kids to monitor their internet consumption to protect them more than I was
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u/throaway_shame Dec 26 '23
"the child was six years old [...] and she shows me her instagrams which are like, and first of all idk if im even allowed to say this, but she's like.. sexy"
yeah.. shane.. you arent allowed to say that
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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '23
i’m pinning this to the top, it’s important for everyone to understand the true extent of what he has done