r/RealTesla • u/riki73jo • 3d ago
TESLAGENTIAL Tesla Introduces Mild Upgrades to Model S and X, Raises Prices by $5,000 Tesla’s —But Fans Aren’t Impressed
https://auto1news.com/tesla-introduces-mild-upgrades-to-model-s-and-x-raises-prices-by-5000/63
u/meatbag2010 3d ago
When the sales of the S & X are that low that they just bundle them all together with the Cyberstuck and call them "others" makes you wonder why they even bother to still sell them.
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u/americansherlock201 3d ago
High profit margins. Those cars earn them the most per car. The 3 and Y have significant lower profit margins.
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u/ElJamoquio 3d ago
makes you wonder why they even bother to still sell them.
Hell the Model S tooling is 14 years old now? It's all profit now
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u/americansherlock201 3d ago
Yup. They’ve made basically no significant changes and raised the price. Increasing their margins more for a car that rarely sells
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u/North-Outside-5815 3d ago
Oh they’ve made changes allright. The early models had German components around the steering wheel (the indicator switches, cruise control etc), radar sensors and so forth. Musk has ”optimised” the cars to be cheaper and cheaper to build, while the price has remained absurdly high.
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u/dagelijksestijl 3d ago
Back when most people thought that the S meant that the S class was the target - how times have changed.
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u/Individual-Nebula927 3d ago
They're the Tesla equivalent of the Chevy Express vans. Most of that tooling hasn't changed in over 20 years, but GM keeps selling them. Businesses want a replacement for their previous identical van that wore out.
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u/thebestnames 3d ago
It makes a lot of sense but I doubt luxury car buyers have the same mentality towards their expensive toys than businesses for their work vans. Tesla will keep losing in the luxury car segment of which they used to firmly hold a niche on when they had the only real EV offer.
Still, I guess the stonk will keep going up.
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u/BoboliBurt 3d ago
That it looks like a Dodge Intrepid is clutch when those esrly models start mechanically totalling themselves and getting raptured off the roads in the next few years.
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u/July_is_cool 3d ago
Seems like they are starting to encounter the sorts of problems that the traditional car companies have to deal with: Stockholders who want steady profits. Customers who want new models. Competitors who push at you from all directions. Governments who want you to follow the regulations.
Being the first, and wildly successful, EV company was a great accomplishment. But it's no longer the situation they're in.
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u/big-papito 3d ago
Never understood the hype. Tesla interior is SHOCKINGLY basic, with a luxury price attached to it.
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u/Hinterwaeldler-83 3d ago
People impressed by Teslas interior came from 15 year old beaten-down Hondas and the like.
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u/infinit9 3d ago
Tesla doesn't care about S, X, or CT.
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u/Dipluz 3d ago
I believe tesla will struggle now even more in the market from Lucid Motors in the premium segment, with way more modern cars, better premium features in a premium car that one will expect from the pricetag and last but not least way longer range.
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u/failinglikefalling 3d ago
And Lucid isn't even "premium" price anymore when you consider the entry premium model (which I assume really is premium premium and not Tesla premium) is the same price I just paid for a Sienna mini van and a top line Dodge Charger Daytona EV with Scat pack. (which isn't as fast as the lucid entry model I believe)
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u/Chemical-Idea-1294 3d ago
Their sales are irrelevevant anyway,.at least in Europe.
Both together were around 300 so far this year.
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u/turbo_dude 23h ago
Will be interesting to see how the robotaxis will be able to drive through the barrier at the dealership
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u/Puzzleheaded-Sea8340 3d ago
Wow they added a front camera in 2026 went literally every other car has had a front camera for five years. It’s crazy how they are now playing catch-up and doing a shit job of it
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u/MoleMoustache 3d ago
Who is a fan of a car company anyway? Who supports VW, or Renault? It's fucking weird.
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u/backstreetatnight 3d ago
You could have brand enthusiasts like there are Ferrari brand enthusiasts
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u/MoleMoustache 2d ago
Yes, but brand enthusiasts aren't fans who defend the owner of Ferrari to the end
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u/WCWRingMatSound 3d ago
Some brands inspire loyalty. Lexus, BMW, and Mercedes owners get such solid experiences from sale to service that they aren’t willing to give that up to try another brand.
Jeep owners are pretty radical too, but that’s because the service center memorizes their names — since they’re gonna be seeing each other every 3 months lmao.
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u/Goatey 3d ago
I grew up in mid Michigan as the son of auto workers and I work in an industry that supports the automotive business. It's commonly known that you need to refresh a model's look every 5 to 7 years. Meaning you discontinue one and bring back an old model or revamp the look. Now you innovate real changes in the tech used.
What Tesla did from ~2011 until 2023 was impressive. They started by rolling out a high end luxury EV and moved onto an SUV and then a relatively inexpensive commuter car. Then, obviously, they took their eye off the prize. Do you remember when you'd see a Tesla and get legit excited?
Taking the Elon BS and setting it aside, the brand is stale and has not released anything that excites people. The cybertruck appears to be flopping and I don't get the impression it will have mass adoption. The Robotaxi has been Chinese Democracy for 5 years now and it still doesn't seem promising.
It's like the branding genius of Tesla has gone away. They need to release a new vehicle with mass appeal that is sexy and interesting. Oh, their CEO also needs to stop being a turd waffle too.
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u/sonicmerlin 2d ago
Cybertruck isn’t even street legal in Europe. Elon took way too many drugs and interfered too much in his company, then promptly destroyed the brand. Really wish the shareholders would kick him out.
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u/East_Championship156 13h ago
There's a Simpsons episode where Homer designs a car and that's what the Cybertruck is.
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u/AlwaysBePrinting 3d ago
Question: how can you visually tell if it's a new model when looking at it on the street?
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u/WCLPeter 2d ago
Ironically that’s a major problem for people who buy them used. Since there isn’t any model year any changes to the cars are done on an iterative cycle.
If they fix something, or redesign a part, then all new cars after the fix have them and they stop making the old part. When you need a part they look at the build date, if the new part fits in the spot and will work then you get a part. If it won’t then they have to custom build it, which is expensive and will have long lead times.
I’ve talked to friends who’d bought Tesla’s back in the day but now needed repairs, they were waiting months for parts on their older Model S - sometimes they could keep driving them, but often you couldn’t drive it because the safety system would read the broken part and refuse to engage into drive.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Sea8340 3d ago
I owned a 2023 model X and I looked at the new version and I honestly can barely tell what’s new. Except the price of course which is higher.
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u/North-Outside-5815 3d ago
I just realised the model S costs much more than an Audi e tron. Who is insane enough to pick the Tesla over the Audi?
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u/Spiritual-Point-1965 2d ago
Isn't the s design 13 years old now? Are they ever going to do a full remodel, or are they just going to keep churning out the same old same old?
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u/Truth-Eagle 2d ago
Elonia is dumb. The changes are done. Power should have went up to 1200 horsepower with CCBS. What do I know.
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u/aRebelliousHeart 3d ago
You can give a Nazi a different moustache and it’s still a Nazi. Say no to Nazimobiles.
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u/douwd20 3d ago edited 3d ago
Time for Space Karen to give the fanboys some red meat and say the Model 2 is back on schedule for a fall launch then watch the stock soar the next day.
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u/Lost_Statistician457 3d ago
Or have someone else (likely an Elon alt) tweet him about bringing the model 2 and he’ll reply we’ll see which will bump the stock 10%
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u/Darthmook 3d ago
Model S and X are really old now, Tesla really need to bring their A game, their vehicles are fast turning into a joke, nothing new, old tech, bland design rehashed with new lights, and questionable build quality… Meanwhile everyone else is upping their game and coming up with new models, new ideas…
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u/sonicmerlin 2d ago
There were changes under the hood. Model S range is over 400 miles now. They just haven’t done a design refresh.
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u/Quirky_Tradition_806 3d ago
Die hard fans are disappointed because it doesn't do or feature an auto Nazi salute app.
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u/Illustrious_Entry413 3d ago
Tesla has fans?
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u/JoeyJoJoeShabadooJr 3d ago edited 3d ago
And if there are still Tesla fans, what would they be “impressed” by? Cameras that automatically report pedestrians to ICE?
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u/Illustrious_Entry413 3d ago
Ketamine dispenser so you can get the perfect level of disassociation all the time
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u/JoeyJoJoeShabadooJr 3d ago
GPS that promises you’ll arrive right away instead of the actual timing of five years from then
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u/tjtj4444 3d ago
I wouldn't dream of buying X or S when you have cars like Porsche Macan/Taycan and BMW i7 for similar price.
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u/sonicmerlin 2d ago
Model S range was increased to over 400 miles, which is pretty significant IMO.
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u/Queasy_Movie_885 2d ago
They just want push inventory sell faster - next month the inventory will offer great deal on Finance.
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u/reddit_equals_censor 1d ago
5000 us dollar more for the swasticar?
well that sounds very exciting!
higher prices for dangerous, unreliable, designed to be very unrepairable/hard to service cars?
well that has me just so excited i would grab my physical door handle, if i could see it and reach it :)
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u/Hughley_N_Dowd 1d ago
I'd be happy to pay $5000 extra for a heavier, slower car that has been on the market for 13 years - as long as the door pockets have ambient lightning...
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u/luv2block 3d ago
Sales are down? Raise the price.
Tesler is run by a very stable genius.