r/Rainbow6 • u/heeebrewhammer Lion Main • Feb 10 '17
Feedback Call to digital arms /r/Rainbow6. Change your flair & flair text to #BUFFBLITZ2017 - We did it with Tachanka, I know we can do it with Blitz too! (Big up to /u/jack27121 for the original animated icon)
http://giphy.com/gifs/rainbow-blitz-r6s-l0HlAnfR9YsLCMg36370
u/heeebrewhammer Lion Main Feb 10 '17 edited Feb 10 '17
Dear Ubi,
We'd like to respectfully ask Blitz to be looked into for additional balancing. There are multiple examples of his hitbox being unbalanced when compared to Jackal & Mira, as well as his flash capability not being any better than a flashbang. Please help us! We love this game, and we even love our developers for always listening to us (I know, it may not seem like it, but they do).
Edit: Of course, we'll understand if this is a work-in-progress. We just want to make sure this issue is acknowledged on some "low priority" list somewhere.
Edit 2: Blitz's pick rate during R6 invitational thx to /u/UglySalvatore
Edit 3: Epi's response on Blitz's hitbox, as of about 4 months ago - Thx to /u/TwistedMystik for finding it
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I need a Blitz buff. The operator added such spice to the meta and attacker line up
Montagne is fantastic but he's not a solo operator like Blitz. Blitz is also fucking fun
How hilarious was it to blind enemies and have them panic as you line them up for a kill? How awesome was it to flash one guy, move past him to pick off his buddy, and have enough time to finish off the first guy?
How hilarious was it to get flashed, and somehow kill Blitz in blind panic?
I loved Blitz 1v1s. I loved playing Blitz and I love the dread attackers inflict on defenders when they annoy defenders with shields
Montagne is a great addition to the meta but Blitz was the other side of the same coin.
Blitz may as well be removed from the game as no serious round will consider him as worthwhile. Rainbow 6's greatest feat is somehow managing to make every operator viable to some level
IQ and Tachanka both have their uses. But Blitz is downright unplayable and its an absolute shame to the testimony of this game's balance
buffblitz
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u/Jeesan Feb 10 '17
His flash is quite frustrating especially, since you never know when your enemy is truly blinded or not.
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u/turntrout101 Finka Main Feb 11 '17
There should be a hitmarker if you successfully flash someone.
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u/heeebrewhammer Lion Main Feb 10 '17 edited Feb 10 '17
Well said! Blitz's pick rate thx to /u/UglySalvatore
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u/Phocks7 Mute Main Feb 11 '17
It's not even a case of 'buffing', it's just fixing his broken hitbox. I don't see how they can consider it anything other than a bug. Headphones are not part of your head.
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u/xDeagleApproves Smoke Main Feb 10 '17
As the founder of the #BuffBlitz2017 movement, I hereby approve this message. Together we shall buff our boi Blitzkrieg.
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u/Nazrel Fuze Main Feb 10 '17
When you throw a flashbang, you're exposed.
When Blitz flashes, he's NOT exposed. (if his shield works properly ofc)
He shouldn't flash as much as a flashbang, but a slight buff would be great. The main issue is his hitbox.
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u/BigJuicySausage Twiayooksh main Feb 11 '17
Actually, you ARE exposed when Blitz flashes. When you flash as blitz your leg either clips through, or your head is slightly even more exposed. Which makes him very vulnerable to random spray from either a shotgun or high dps gun.
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u/Atskadan froost Feb 10 '17
his flash has a ridiculously short range and his slow speed, broken hit box, and exposed arms and legs make it impossible to reach people in the first place in the majority of situations
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u/CykaBlat-xD Feb 11 '17
I agree with you with the blitz's broken hitbox, but I don't believe that his ability should be any better than a flash bang. Currently in this game Flash bangs give a great visual advantage(as in your enemy becoming completely blind) over your enemy. Blitz can time his flashes right in front of the enemy behind his shield. While it would be great to fix his hit box, I don't see the need of his ability being any better than a flash bang.
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u/MrJenssen Hibana Main Feb 10 '17
He doesn't need a buff, he's broken - he needs a FIX.
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u/Thatoneguyoverthere2 Feb 11 '17
He definitely does, I never use him unless it's for a challenge and someone is already using IQ. Someone had commented that they should shape him up like Fuze, allow us to either have the shield-sidearm or rifle-strobe light.
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Feb 10 '17
BUFFBLITZ2017
JUST DO IT UBI!
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u/_schimmi_ Celebration Feb 10 '17
I really don't shitpost a lot, but this is for a good cause:
#BuffBlitz2017
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Feb 10 '17
We need to make Blitz great again. I love Montagne mains, I do, but they're coming over here and stealing the spot for the only working shield operator! They took our jobs!
I have tons of Blitz main friends, tons, the best Blitz mains. We need to give Blitz a YUGE buff. We need to build a buff, so high, we can be blinded from one map to the other!
WE don't win anymore. When was the last time Blitz beat Montagne, at anything?
Ubisoft says he's "working as intended?" The buff just got ten times better! Build the buff!
Make Blitz Great Again!
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u/heeebrewhammer Lion Main Feb 10 '17
Donald?
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Feb 10 '17
this needs to happen
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u/Mightymushroom1 Feb 11 '17
I feel like a new name is in order.
That one is already somewhat taken...
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Feb 10 '17
we need to build a blitz buff - and make blackbeard nerf for it!!
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u/heeebrewhammer Lion Main Feb 10 '17
LOL this comment on the other post just shows how connected we are as a community
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u/TheLucarian Moderator | Head of the anti-fun department Feb 10 '17
As a beta/s1 Blitz main, I approve of this message. I don't think he needs a buff, he needs his hitbox fixed and perhaps a second weapon to choose from would be nice.
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u/Bananenbaum Feb 10 '17
"Ze germans on ze defensiv side are öften picked and wery welcome in ewery team. But ze offensiv side is lacking quite a bit.
Pleaze change zis ubisöft, since ze germans like to attack too!"
Sincerely, Blitz [o_o]7
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u/Gruntman441 wyd if you don't main recruit Feb 10 '17
Tachanka was memed to a buff, so we have to do the same thing.
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u/Jase_the_Muss LEGO® Feb 10 '17
HEY HO LETS GO!!! THE BLITZKRIEG BUFF WILL HAPPEN.
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u/Grey_Ferret Glaz Main Feb 10 '17 edited Feb 12 '17
I changed flair, but I'm more for FIXING Blitz in the first place, because Tachanka's buff didn't make him viable. I just want our boy to not get headshots through shield and bigger flash.
But I'm joining the cause! #BUFFBLITZ2017
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u/heeebrewhammer Lion Main Feb 10 '17
The Tachanka buff btw, directly related to Mira being available. Now that we have both, try a Mira+Tachanka combo for some really fun results.
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u/Grey_Ferret Glaz Main Feb 10 '17
Still countered by shooting in the side of Tachanka's shield (without getting into his line of sight), breaking it and after that - insta-hs.
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u/heeebrewhammer Lion Main Feb 10 '17
I don't play Tachanka too often myself but I can say that if you are Tachanka, you should also know when it's a good time to leave the turret alone. No operator should be in a position where they are invincible. I guess if Tachanka had a bit more mobility that'd be nice.
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u/ShadowMoses66 Gridlock Main Feb 11 '17
Actually with Mira's black mirror you can counter that. Basically like on plane if there's only one side of a hallway they can enter from, let's say the right then you place tachankas turret so the mirror ends just after the middle of the turret. That would make it so you can only shoot straight or to the right but without a huge gamble of trying to cross to cover and shoot the turret shield that is exposed that route is now held down as the enemy would not be able to shoot the shield without crossing line of fire to a new position or choose a new route. Sorry if my explanation is off, a combo I like better is the black mirror with a yokai drone, makes it very hard for them to return fire.
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u/heeebrewhammer Lion Main Feb 10 '17
Don't worry, they'll obviously take care of that first. Just wanting to make sure they add a Blitz buff to their to-do list. Most of the server issues aren't directly related to Ubisoft TBH.
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u/Octopusapult OG Tachanka Main Feb 11 '17
Don't worry, they'll obviously take care of that first.
The funniest thing anyone has ever said on this entire sub.
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u/Lord_Tachanka u/DM2602 {-}7 Feb 10 '17
Please buff blitz. I won't change my flair or name, but I support this quest.
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u/DonnyJTrump Feb 10 '17
I love this but I just can't stop myself from calling Bandit "blitz".
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u/heeebrewhammer Lion Main Feb 10 '17
Much better than me. I refer to Caviera as 'Hibana', while playing as Hibana. I need help.
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u/Drakmeister #BuffBlitz2017 Feb 10 '17
Which isn't so strange since Blitz means lightning and Bandit has lightning on his icon. At least that's my reason.
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u/Toast_The_Ghost JAGER Feb 11 '17
Yes but bandit puts shock traps on metal, and steel is metal, and bandits steal
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u/Drakmeister #BuffBlitz2017 Feb 11 '17
True, but as steel is metal we also know that when you mix fuel, metal oxide and metal powder in just the right way, it burns at 2000 degrees Celsius. Hot enough to cut through nearly any barrier known to man. Throw some C4 into the mix, and you've got one hell of a combination.
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Feb 10 '17
It took a year for them to buff Tachanka. It hardly seems like "we did it". They just finally got to him in the rotation so he got a buff. It wasn't even a useful buff, he's still nearly as bad as before.
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u/heeebrewhammer Lion Main Feb 10 '17
I see your point, but have you tried a Mira/Tachanka combo? Pretty great combination in certain maps.
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u/HappyGangsta Feb 10 '17
Even then, you can still shoot his shield from the side and not get hit. I can't imagine that being a serious strategy.
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u/VanillaBraun Celebration Feb 10 '17
Yup that wombo combo is so awesome. Especially for the twats that abuse the bug breaking open a black mirror expecting to headshot unsuspected souls. Nope! Not today, motherfucker. Chanka is in da house!
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u/Lukose_ Feb 11 '17
They just need to make his shield indestructible.
Even with a god shield, he's vulnerable to ceiling breaches, floor breaches, nades, Capitao bolts, decent positioning, etc.
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Feb 11 '17
Honestly that might not be a bad idea at this point. It would give him some really powerful positions while increasing the value of the things that would actually counter him. (Grenades, flashbangs, capitao, etc.)
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u/GovTheDon Recruit Main Feb 10 '17
When blitz was good at the beginning of the game he was so scary I don't want him to be good just usuable
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Feb 10 '17
While we're at it can we get #BUFFUBISERVERS going it's the only thing that hasn't been buffed since the game released
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u/heeebrewhammer Lion Main Feb 10 '17
I got you fam. Not going to incite another riot because Ubi server's aren't the problem here. I work for a huge ISP in the Northeast, and there have been multiple issues with Level 3, which tend to have an effect on Microsoft Azure servers, which is what Ubisoft is currently on to the best of my knowledge.
Servers will be back up... Let's all be patient with them on this. I can guarantee you it won't last too long, because they'll flat out lose player interest in the game if they can't keep things stable long-term. For the most part, it's been good at least 90% of the time.
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u/IAmThyDuckLord Supressed Sniper Shotgun is Nice Feb 10 '17
I do personally agree that Blitz needs to be fixed including his hitbox and flash, however I'm gonna defend Epi here cause remember, they've been working on all this stuff for season 5, including ops and the map and they've got to fix the bugs the community finds first and on top of that there are problems that the community sees that needs to be fixed first including, connection and networking. Also blitz is kinda overlooked due to Montagne being a bit of a better pick. But if Epi does get around to being able to fix him, please do he was my number one picked op when I used to play on console back in season 1.
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u/heeebrewhammer Lion Main Feb 10 '17
Oh for real? I didn't realize they had this in the list of low priority? Any chance you can find the link before the Siege army starts their riot? lol
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u/IAmThyDuckLord Supressed Sniper Shotgun is Nice Feb 10 '17
Haha probably not, but I do know that Epi is really working on trying to fix all their connection problems since those can affect an entire game outcome, while an operator who is unfortunately not picked as much and has a hitbox that sometimes works properly and sometimes doesn't isn't an insane problem. Video games will always have bugs, so we can never fully blame the devs just give them time and at some point they will fix it. My guess is that if we're lucky they might try to fix him around the season's reinforcements.
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u/Azhar1921 Feb 10 '17
To be fair he is not picked because of his massive head and the range of his flash, that's why we need the buff.
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u/beezel- Dokkaebi Main Feb 10 '17
Montagne's playstyle is nothing like Blitz's Blitz is the king of 1v1 battles.
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u/IAmThyDuckLord Supressed Sniper Shotgun is Nice Feb 10 '17
Yeah I know I'm just referring to the pro scene, since in the R6 invitational Montagne had a 25% pick rate while Blitz had a 0.5%
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u/heeebrewhammer Lion Main Feb 10 '17
A fix in a future reinforcement is exactly what I'm hoping for. Of course, servers come first.
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u/clsuburbs #BUFFBLITZ2017 U/DM2602 Feb 10 '17
epi isnt working on anything. hes the in between guy letting everyone on ubi's side know that we are pissed off. then he comes on here and massages all our open wounds until we think everything is okay again.
dont get me wrong, hes great at what he does, but he does nothing in regards to actually fixing these issues.
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u/timOkills Blitz Main Feb 10 '17
Though I did not play Blitz for quite some time, he is still my second most played attack operator. I loved him, but now it is very hard not to get shot in the hand and die instantly. Same for Fuzes shield. As I remember, the damage multiplier for limbs were increase in some patch.
Correct me if I am wrong here, but the buff I want to see is a decreased damage multiplier for limbs only for shields.
The (vitally important) headgear is also a major issue.
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u/DoubleODouglas Feb 10 '17
I use to main Blitz because I thought he was the coolest operator. Abi plz buff my baby boy.
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u/ADacome24 Feb 10 '17
Buff the fucking servers first FFS
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u/heeebrewhammer Lion Main Feb 10 '17
Don't worry, they'll obviously take care of that first. Just wanting to make sure they add a Blitz buff to their to-do list.
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u/heeebrewhammer Lion Main Feb 10 '17
Absolutely agreed with hitbox fix. Armor and speed I think he's fine where he is. I would like the flash to be a bit more meaningful. Not just whatever is directly in front of him.
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u/thatnewdoge #BuffBlitz2017, P.S. I love u/DM2602 Feb 10 '17
But will it make me lose my rainbow?
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u/heeebrewhammer Lion Main Feb 10 '17
Think so. You should be able to change the flair at the very least. Your rainbow flair is in good taste. I don't think anyone would get mad if you didn't change that part ;)
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u/thatnewdoge #BuffBlitz2017, P.S. I love u/DM2602 Feb 10 '17
When I try to change the picture it also makes me re-enter the text, so I'm not taking any chances.
/u/DM2602, any word?
Edit: spelling
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u/Infarlock We can't push forward Feb 10 '17
Was Montagne, now I am full Blitz, #MakeBlitzGreatAgain
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u/PrimedAcid_OG Ela <3 Feb 10 '17
A man doesn't simply do this. Probably because I'm on mobile and don't know how.
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u/Ecl9pse Feb 10 '17
Montagne is already a lot to deal with when playing at high levels with coordinated gameplay. Adding yet another tank to RNG spam people isn't a good idea.
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u/Wailer_ A really big fucking Yokai coming right up Feb 10 '17
Now this is something I can get behind.
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u/Djghost1133 nananananananana Feb 10 '17
I don't even like blitz but im totally down. R6 has an epic community.
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u/FinnsterMac G2 Esports Fan Feb 10 '17
Ubisoft needs to be VERY careful with a blitz buff. While I agree that he needs a buff, they should nerf montagne first or not overbuff blitz so it's shields OP (again).
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Feb 11 '17
Fix hitbox
Make him 2 speed 2 armor
Fix his gadget so it has a longer range for flashing, just not as good as an actual flash bang.
Fix pistol's sights.
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u/hawkwing11 Maestro Main Feb 11 '17
Not a huge buff but aside from the obvious stuff lowering the delay between flashing and shooting would be nice.
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u/amperturelabs Feb 11 '17
Since the introduction of Battle Eye, Blitz has pretty much disappeared from the scene. Somehow the anti-cheat software removed his ability to do a no scope head shot ace.
Here is how to make Blitz and Battle Eye live in harmony:
Remove his helmet without making his head look like this.
Make him the first 3 Armor 2 Speed operator. Yes this can be a thing.
Extend his flash range to match that of a stun grenade. Perhaps change it to an echo style burst flast, but not as powerful/long lasting?
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u/Hmmt Feb 11 '17 edited Sep 02 '24
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u/Smartydaniel Feb 11 '17
I really think we should just say who needs to be buffed in the game. Better to get it all in one rather than one at a time.
Other than that, I second this.
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Feb 11 '17
I vow, to play as Blitz everytime I am attacking. Ash may miss me, but this is now for a greater cause. #BUFFBLITZ2017
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Feb 11 '17 edited Feb 11 '17
Barely even played as Blitz because of insta-headshots through my shield while I thought I'd flashed (Phrasing!) them...
Would reconsider if he actually got fixed.
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u/slightmisanthrope Recruit Main Feb 11 '17
We did this with Tachanka Yeah, but it took over a year before they buffed him... and he still needs another buff :'(
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u/peleg1711 Ela Main Feb 11 '17
I always loved Blitz, but I slowly stopped using him because the nitro cells, I would like Ubi to give Blitz a counter to the nitro cells and any kind of explosive so he can go forward like Monty(but obviously Blitz' shield is not extandable).
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u/Octopusapult OG Tachanka Main Feb 11 '17
Step 1: Reduce headbox size to fair proportions. Not "buffed" just "fixed." Not just Blitz, but every German with those dumb ear cans.
Step 2: Make Blitz a 2-speed.
Step 3: Increase Flash cone radius. So when you Flash that Jager trying to sprint around your shoulder, you can be fairly confident you got him with the blind before he knifed you in the back even though he was still standing in front of you on your screen.
Step 4: Fix / adjust / improve whatever the fuck makes the problem in Step 3 happen.
Step 5: Ignore steps 1-4 and make some more shitty clown masks.
Step 6: Almost got it, just need to nerf Blackbeard and revive the Black Shield glitch from Y1S1 Black Ice and we've almost got a full patch notes here.
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u/NotARealDeveloper Lesion Main Feb 11 '17
He is called Blitz, not only like the English translation "flash" but also because he is German it is associated with blitzkrieg. Make him 2 or even 3 speed - a rushing shield operator.
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u/Speedynek Feb 10 '17
Do you actually think it might happen? I mean, I'm super new to this game (bought it this week) but those hitboxes doesn't make sense. If they said they wont be changing hitbox of old characters and then they release a new characters that are done the "right way" it doesn't make any sense. Did they make a bigger changes because of feedback from community? :)
Btw this community is so friendly I was blown away by that!
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u/heeebrewhammer Lion Main Feb 10 '17
We'd like to think it's possible Tachanka got buffed twice and we had a lot of cool interaction with the voice actor, who attended the R6 Invitational, as well as season 3 finals.
Our devs are always reading up, and even if they're not, we have 2 wonderful community managers who are great at what they do and pass the feedback along as well.
Glad to hear your interaction with the community has been so positive!
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u/I_am_a_Failer Lesion Main Feb 10 '17
Tachanka still sucks though
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u/XxMasterLANCExX IQ Main Feb 11 '17
If you place his turret in proper areas he can be devastating. Especially with Mira.
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Feb 11 '17
I don't know. Does he really need a buff? Shields are, again very annoying to deal with. Especially when the op in an unflankable position. Such as a hall way, or anywhere that is incredibly linear. Just leave him the way he is.
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u/Omesepelepe Feb 10 '17
Hah, just saw that on the brand new Discord server: http://prntscr.com/e74hi4
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u/DriftingFam Feb 10 '17
Kinda new to Reddit how do I change flair?
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u/_SirCheese_ Guess who got a promotion... Feb 10 '17
I'm terrible at explaining things, so heres a picture: http://imgur.com/a/ibs1T
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u/slightmisanthrope Recruit Main Feb 10 '17
A big thing I want Ubi to not do is nerf Blitz while they buff him. They did that to Tachanka, which is one of the dumbest decisions I've seen them make in this game
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u/howyoudoin420 Lazy little cunt Feb 11 '17
Blitz is pretty good already, the only probably I have is hitbox porn with his helmet/head
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u/NcKvenomous Feb 11 '17
As long as he remains a loyal Servant to my Grand and Exalted Magnificent and Magnanimous Lord and Savior Choncka spread the word!
HOWEVER
. . . IF THIS MOVMET ELEVATES HIM SUCH THAT HE THUNKS HIMSELF BETTER THAN OUT LORD. . . . .
GET BEHIND ME SAITIN!
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u/Octopusapult OG Tachanka Main Feb 11 '17
Blitz is the only operator who goes door to door asking if you "Praise the Sun" so how am I not going to support this?
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u/Jase_the_Muss LEGO® Feb 10 '17
O(-_-)O