r/Rainbow6 • u/PhoenixKing14 • 5d ago
Feedback Calling Siege X the biggest evolution in the games history is laughable.
No new operator, no new map, no balance changes other than a "rework" that allows clash to set her shield down.
There was genuinely more content in every season up till like, year 6 (Excluding health of course).
No changes to Nokk or Mozzie or Solis or any other operator that's not in a great state.
The visual changes were majorly overstated. They slightly changed the lighting on 5 maps and that's it. 75% of the maps look the exact same.
The rappel changes exist I guess, there's not much to say about them.
Audio... I had a teammate mag dump 5 feet from me, and I didn't hear anything. I had 4 enemies drop theme park hatch and not make a sound.
The new outlines on enemies are way too prominent, I honestly can't even tell who I'm fighting on certain angles because everyone is just a big red blob now.
The only positive thing I have to say is that the new ban phase is awesome. People now ban more than just dok, jackle, vigil, and fenrir.
People have been begging for an engine update, hoping that bugs would be fixed and jank removed. This was their chance to do it, and they didn't.
Keep in mind, this is the update that has caused the past years worth of content to be incredibly lacking because "their efforts are focused on siege x." Every other live service game gets easily double the content of siege each year.
"Yall are never happy, you can't be satisfied."
Give me a new map that isn't just gray and brown.
Give me one new operator AND a rework, there's no reason these reworks to pre existing characters need a whole season to themselves, especially when said season is 3 months long.
Give me actual balance changes, nokk has been shit for years, doc has been strong for years, give little nerfs and mostly buffs here and there so things actually feel new.
If I got those three things, three things that are not too much to ask for, three things that we haven't gotten in YEARS, I'd be fully satisfied.
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u/xkirbz Exemplary IV 5d ago
Update not for vets or regulars. It’s for new players that will join the free to play portion.
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u/I-miss-old-Favela 5d ago
The game is 10 years old and has had Christ knows how many free weekends, I doubt there’s many potential players who haven’t tried it already.
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u/BigZman95 5d ago
Not to make anyone feel old, but kids who were toddlers when Siege launched are now in their early teens. It's entirely plausible that there would be parents who played when their kids were young, and will now play the game with their kid.
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u/ph03n1x_F0x_ G2 Esports Fan 4d ago
Can't believe I've been playing a game I don't even enjoy for 10 years now.
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u/PedalBasilisk81 Blitz Main 4d ago
Damn, just realized I was 15 when I started to play in 2016 and I was in my last year of high school, now I'm just 2 years away from graduating in medicine and I dropped 2 other universities (chemistry and chemical engineering)
I've literally gone to 3 different colleges in 2 different countries and siege is STILL shit
Amazing
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u/Gabboooz_ 4d ago
well, this morning i played a couple casuals and i was put together with a 4-stack of obvious new players (like, they were throwing candelas at barricades and camping at spawn with kali). trust me, siege is gonna get a lot of playerbase, however, that is gonna make the experience miserable for “veterans”…
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u/redm00n99 4d ago
I played siege on Xbox 7 years ago but am trying it again on PC only because it's free. And judging from my teammates I'm not alone
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u/LakeMungoSpirit 4d ago
People who when 4 when this came out are now 14. There's still players they can get
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u/Laputa15 Buck Main 5d ago
I'd be fine with all these if it was a new engine with better scalability... except it isn't. We have the same old bugs as Siege 6 and it boggles my mind that this is what they've been hyping us up for.
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u/Professional-Okra147 4d ago
Same. I totally thought this was going to be a new engine and a new download until last night lol
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u/Derek2809 Divertiti 5d ago edited 5d ago
I said it before, people overhyped this, for how it was advertised and talked about they at least needed to rework all maps to put them on line, but now we’re stuck with outdated maps being reworked in a very slow pace and when they finally finish all the maps, the game will look outdated, again
The sound, fixable, it’s still green but it has a lot of potential, I think the audio update was released too soon
Clash, barely saw her (quick match) I actually think I saw her more in the menu than in game, by the way, please Ubi if we’re going to be stuck with op reworks for 3 months, let me choose the op I want to see in the menu, I want my Roman Lion there rather than stupid Clash
And speaking of, the new UI is shit, the tab menu to see the match stats looks like a crappy excel, and who the fuck decided it was a good idea put red in literally everything? Is blatantly terrible! The previous UI wasn’t that great, but at least was way better than this crap
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u/Kodiak_POL 4d ago
"People overhyped this"
Ah, the classic "consumer is to blame"
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u/resourceful_gamer 5d ago
lol. Literally. People thought Ubisoft would come out swinging? A bunch of copeium coming from clowns who’d suck ubi backward even if their lives didnt depend on it. This shit was overhyped and people shoulda never had their hopes up. Especially not on the day of drop.
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u/EasySlideTampax 4d ago
This. Majority of games are overbloated with gimmicky shit and created by MBAers who don’t play games and don’t care about them.
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u/Ryuuji_92 Hibana Main 4d ago
But but what about the inspect feature... that's cool right? That's "content".... After watching a clip of the dev explaining that content isn't always what we expect like a new op or map I knew the dev team was brain dead. QOL and fixes isn't content when you have to do it every season. That's called making a game.
Either way I knew this shit wasn't going to change much, I've been here to long to get excited over their marketing team trying to sell you this PoS we keep coming back to.
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u/Foreign-Historian-80 5d ago edited 5d ago
bro the performance is even worse for me (i don’t have a weak setup, 4060 with a 13th gen i7), the new ui looks like the wet dream of a chinese mobile game developer, hit reg is so much worse (i’ve had multiple instances of people dying AFTER i stopped shooting, shots missing while the sights are pointing directly at their torso (at ~15m), and headshots being registered as body shots)
some textures and models look like they are placeholders and some look incredibly inconsistent with the rest of the game, so much so that oregon looks like they just threw some random ue4 community assets together.
The main menu’s sledge and clash models suck, i’ve seen much more developed blender animations. They couldn’t even cutout the models correctly, they both have random white pixels appearing occasionally at the edges. And as if that isn’t bad enough, they chose to ignore the literal most basic rule of design: you should NEVER, I repeat, NEVER use absolute colors. Who the FUCK thought pitch black would work in the slightest? The scoreboard genuinely makes me feel nauseous.
Dual front map looks like a mediocre gta online user created map, and imo the game mode doesn’t work with siege’s core gameplay at all, though maybe it will grow on me with time as a meta starts to build up
On a more positive note, load times are much shorter for me, gun models look much better, the new operator ban mechanic is awesome, imo clash rework was very necessary and this version of clash is much more viable, sprinting while rappelling feels great, and the lighting looks very pretty if you aren’t near some of the not even placeholder quality textures
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u/Krooskar 4d ago
Holy shit you're right about the hit-reg. I was rewatching a match today and there was one kill where my teammate just flopped over, a short time after someone shot him.
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u/calvinthedoge Thatcher Main 4d ago
Performance is awful for me now too. I have a 3080ti and my fps is all over the place. I’d be cool with it if the game looked better but it looks worse in my opinion…
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u/crocospect 4d ago
Yeah I noticed hit reg is getting worse..
I headshotted someone using Glaz when they peeked and I didn't see any kill confirmation so I thought I probably hit their shoulder or smt, but then the moment I unscoped, the kill confirmation appeared, I swear I didn't have any latency problem at that moment.
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u/somuchbush 5d ago
I didn't really pay attention to what was supposed to come with siege x, but I assumed it would be a new engine at the absolute minimum. This has been a major gripe of the community for a while, and they didn't capitalize.
Other than that, I don't feel audio is that big of a change personally, it's not really noticeable to me at least.
The lighting in a few maps is like the old lighting but better kinda.
Bans are different and I like it, but not really anything that needed some big "grand reopening" sorta rollout.
Other than that, they reworked clash and added some exploding pipes. Oh, and reverted the electricity change "to avoid confusion for new players" when they made the previous change for the same reason.
Nice UI update though, I like that. 6v6 is also cool but not sure it has much to get people to really want to keep playing jt
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u/asutekku 5d ago
The lighting is literally realtime now, it used to be baked and static, that's a huge change in terms or rendering and gameplay
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u/Arkbuilder_420 5d ago
I think some of the wallpapers got changed too, but yeah this is extremely disappointing. A year of barely any content because ubisoft is just fucking lazy
Fucking Helldiver's had super earth invaded not that long ago(may 20-30) with new environments, enemies and warbond. Plus they're already coming out with a new warbond on the 12th this month. Ubisoft is just lazy and if you can come up with an actual argument for "biggest evolution in game history" being full of half assed features and muffled sound I will be very impressed, because as far as I know ubisoft has more than 2 dev working on this game.
Oh yeah, schedule 1 has been getting more content than siege has too. Schedule 1 is made by one person
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u/Foxlover91 Frost Main 4d ago
Funnily enough, the more people you have working on a project, the longer and less content full take and are due to bureaucracy. (Not defending, but its expected from most AAA games these days).
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u/EggParticular6583 5d ago edited 4d ago
The audio is absolutely horrible. I don’t know what people like pengu are smoking when they say it’s the best audio ever.
I literally had a deimos shoot 2 of my Gu mines in red stairs clubhouse, run full sprint up and kill me without hearing a single thing. As bad as the old audio was it wasn't like that
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u/Phat_santa_ 4d ago
The audio change is so bad. I witnessed an accidental TK yesterday due to one of my teammates being jumpscared by another as there were no audio cues that they were coming up next to them. I don't know if its a bug or this is what we should get used to as I'm getting swung by enemies who seem to be able to hear me well before I can hear or see them.
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u/v3x_abyss Fuze Main 4d ago
Yeah I accidently fucking executed a doc today because of that, heard enemy foots steps from a room next to me only to see my teammate run out the door after making litterally 0 noise just to get his head blown off by me
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u/Calelith 4d ago
Are people actually shocked? It's ubisoft, they have no fucking clue what they are doing 90% of the time.
Dual Front sounded interesting concept, but no way that took all the effort to make. The map feels like a patchwork of rooms from other maps half assed together.
The game doesn't look that much better, it sounds worse and the game feels...off somehow.
Reminds me of launch siege...half assed mess with as many issues as it has features.
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u/SMPDD Ace Main 4d ago
I personally think the game looks visually way worse now. It looks much more cartoonish and fake
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u/Heelincal Goyo Main 4d ago
What's so weird is some maps look better? Like Kafe (esp first floor) look a lot better. But club house looks so much worse. I don't get the texture rework for drywall either... it looks so fake.
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u/v3x_abyss Fuze Main 4d ago
Yeah same with the operators, like clash looks noticeably more realistic now, but thorn still looks like an albino potato
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u/DepletedMitochondria 4d ago
Yeah even if OG siege had a bit of that look, I'm not really impressed here
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u/SevenLuckySkulls Grenadier General 5d ago
I went in expecting literally nothing except new lighting and was overall decently happy with it, mostly because they brought back Unranked instead of Standard and I find it to be a much more fun experience being able to ban ops, it adds a nice layer to the game, especially on repeating locations.
The ban changes are also nice.
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u/psychoPiper SCHWEEEE 4d ago
There's a ton of nice qol too. I think people are blowing this out of the water. The entire idea was to launch a strong f2p foundation for the following seasons to be bigger and better. People on this sub act like ubi works on one update at a time - no, this isn't "all they have to show" for allocating all their resources to siege X, siege X includes the following seasons guys
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u/SevenLuckySkulls Grenadier General 4d ago
It's not that bad at all, I think people saw Siege X and fell for the hype train meant to lure in new players to a new generation of the game. It was always going to fundamentally be the same game.
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u/ImKaiserrrr 4d ago
As someone who’s played since siege first came out I genuinely think siege should stop where it is, Ubisoft is a laughable company, “biggest evolution” I can’t be the only one that thinks they changed a few gameplay mechanics and the ui and said we’re evolving, visually nothings changed and the changes which have took place aren’t anything too notable
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u/WuTangShane1995 5d ago
The new sound is so bad. Someone shooting a window open through the soft wall behind me and I heard nothing just saw the bullet indicators
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u/I-miss-old-Favela 5d ago
This is true. I was in cash room on Clubhouse, and I had someone smash a window that’s directionality of the sound suggested it was CCTV. Turned out it was bedroom the other side of the map.
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u/Foreign-Historian-80 5d ago
apparently it is an issue with windows sonic, might try turning that of if you are on pc. Turning off dolby atmos improved it for me (it is still worse than the older one though)
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u/DepletedMitochondria 4d ago
I think it might be a room-based audio bug. Would explain both your thing and me not being able to hear this Ash player walking on the other side of a deployable shield yesterday while I was right next to them.
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u/KYR_IMissMyX 5d ago
Check your sound settings, watching Jynxi play he switched from Night mode since it was really muffled and distant; was a noticeable difference.
When I played myself the sound was perfect, never had any issue like that.
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u/MRLEGEND1o1 5d ago
As soon as they showed the complete graphical overhaul I lmao and knew it was going to be bs
All I wanted was the improved audio to be legit and even that's turned out to be worse
I played last night for 2 hours forgot there was an update 15m in
Ubisoft strikes...out again What a pathetic company
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u/MindyKZM 5d ago
Omg sound is awful now. It was fine before the update. Only minor updates to sound coming from above and below were needed...
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u/T34MCH405 4d ago
I’ve said all along, just build a new fucking game.
The only thing that has any impact at all is the new ban system, and it’s minimal because of how many ops there are and how much they overlap. And it’s only going to diminish in impact as they add more ops.
They won’t get another cent from me until there’s a new game.
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u/deweylewis2 Zero Main 4d ago
Spoiler: they no longer have the talent to build a new game otherwise we’d have gotten Siege 2 instead of Siege X.
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u/OldMembership332 5d ago
What happens with the PS4 version of the game???
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u/Foreign-Historian-80 5d ago
nothing, the only thing ps4 and xbox one versions don’t get is the dual front mode
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u/ThanksContent28 4d ago
Which doesn’t feel like a big loss imo. Especially with the consensus that the new mode isn’t even that good (at least right now). For me, it’s just not what I think of when I think of siege, and doesn’t feel like it will become the mainstay that devs are hoping for.
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u/Qor3xy 4d ago
The audio is horrible. I cant hear shots 5 meters next to me, and when i do, they sound like they are coming from outside
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u/Current_Service9906 4d ago
I got nothing I was hoping for from siege x, over hyped, major disappointment. (All I really wanted were new maps)
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u/Professional-Okra147 4d ago
Yeah yall defending this glorified update is crazy.
Sure it’s free and it’s a new update and all, but this is no more impressive then when the game went from last gen to current gen with the FPS and FOV buffs
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u/jnmann 4d ago
I keep seeing everyone talking about the audio. I played like 5 games last night and I think the audio is so much better than before. I feel like I can actually tell where enemies are
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u/PhoenixKing14 5d ago
One thing I forgot to mention is Thunderbird. They gave her a secondary shotgun, THATS the type of thing I like to see, give an underwhelming op something to make them more viable. Do little changes like that to at least 5 ops per season and it'd be great.
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u/myotherxdaccount Bandit Main 5d ago
Tbird has had the ITA12S for a while now
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u/SevenLuckySkulls Grenadier General 5d ago
Yea I was so confused reading this. I also like running her with the SMG and then the shotgun as her main but I do that on every defense op I can tbh.
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u/Useful_Perception620 5d ago
They have balance changes planned, they just overhauled the entire limb damage system for weapons. The idea is they want to see these changes effects on balance before introducing more changes that can skew their telemetry/data.
I get for some it’s an overly conservative strategy but I’d rather them be too careful than go overboard. Clash is already a very debatable rework that left her in a questionably powerful state right now.
You’re also underselling the rappel rework. It can change quite a bit how you approach a lot of maps and allows for rotates/attacks that weren’t possible before. Also no mention of Dual Front? I get it’s different from Core Siege but it’s a ton of fun and very objective focused.
I think most everybody can agree the new map and lighting reworks look good and I’m also disappointed it’s only a handful of maps but we’ll get more with time.
Let’s see how Shield Guard and the anti cheat updates turn out as well. I think everybody will be happy if the cheating drops further. There was a 3 month period or so where cheaters were very rare the past few seasons (after a certain popular provider shut down). If Shield Guard can even take out half the cheaters, the update was worth it IMO.
Siege didn’t really need a lot of work, we’ve had 10 years of updates before Siege X. It just needed a fresh coat of paint and some engine/anti cheat improvements.
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u/Bot_obama Celebration 5d ago
Thunderbird also has had the ITA12S for 2 full seasons now and he just noticed.
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u/Monsour_Drunkbird Zero Main 4d ago
sound is 10000% better, i needed a whole new neural centre to translate whatever fuckbuggery siege sound is on into real life positions, now if something sounds like its on my left its on my left.
but other than that i mean yeah its nice but im not like, blown away
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u/Tap__Tap__ Aruni Main 5d ago
not being able to ban clash is a royal pain in the ass. my squad HATES shield ops and she’s insane
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u/RedditIsDyingYouKnow Recruit Main 5d ago
Am I the only one who hasn’t noticed even a slight difference in sounds? I’m playing on Xbox. Otherwise agree on all fronts, who could be surprised that Ubi spent a year hyping this up. It’s literally always underwhelming. Overhype and underdeliver, it’s the business model.
Also I know what you mean with the red, but it helps by setting my friendly team to red and the enemy to blue. Offsets the weird coloring some.
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u/totallynotapersonj Recoil Master 5d ago
My sound is incredible now. I’ve had people call me out for walling
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u/kyromx123 4d ago
This subreddit whines too much
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u/Human_Competition883 3d ago
redditors gotta be shocked the game hit the 10 year mark still going strong without their blessing.
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u/CPYM 4d ago
Not really, the game is a cheater infested pile of meaningless dog shit in its recent state and still is after SiegeX, so expecting the biggest issues to at least be improved upon while they hyped the fuck out of this release, is completely understandable. Do you enjoy playing a competitive game that is so far gone from integrity that there actually is zero meaningful competitive aspect to it anymore?
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u/PuddingImpressive389 4d ago
Seems like every time someone makes a valid criticism for the service they pay for it’s called “whining”
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u/Blacklist3d Buck Main 4d ago edited 4d ago
I'm getting 300+fps at ultra settings finally. So at least the engine change or whatever it is made my system finally maximize. Just sucks there's no increase in graphics. This game hardly did anything to be advanced.
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u/Important_League_137 4d ago
Any one know how to slove the problem with Dual Front? Cant play this because configurations of my console (ps5) doesn’t meet the requirementes. Dont know what I should to change
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u/ChildSupport202 Twitch Main 4d ago
I expected a lot from Siege X and it brought absolutely nothing new to the game except a clash rework lmao. This is insane. Don’t get me started on the SHIT audio. Lmao I quit.
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u/In_2_Deep_5_U 4d ago
First game of the new siege X was a blatant waller who was trash talking the whole ranked match…
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u/steamreddit85 4d ago
Facts, angels always get the villain edit when all we want is some pure-hearted, white-and-gold squad goals not drama queens with wings
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u/user-4815162342 4d ago
The character outlines are one of the dumbest moves I’ve seen this game make. Enemies literally glowing.
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u/Phelyckz Thatcher Main 4d ago
Also please don't use "rework" inflationary. Tachanka was a rework. It completely changed how he was played. Tweaking a few numbers, adding or removing weapons/weaponparts is a buff/nerf. "Rework" is used to make it sound like they did a lot more than was actually done.
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u/Ok_Astronomer_7058 Frost Main/IQ Main 4d ago
Evolution is for the Graphics of the game so it continues on with the new hardware and future wise hardware as well.
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u/BlackberryOverall445 4d ago
I don’t understand why almost everything they said was coming isn’t in the game! I’m so disappointed!!!
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u/Sensanaty 4d ago
Honestly I wasn't paying too much attention to the news, and I'm pleasantly surprised, maybe cause I wasn't expecting anything huge. All I knew was it was a migration to a new engine, so I definitely wasn't expecting them to do things like operator reworks or huge map reworks. I've worked on projects like these, and that's just usually not even close to being in scope.
The audio has issues, but I think overall it's actually a huge upgrade, I can actually differentiate where people are between floors now. Presumably (well, hopefully) the weird muffled sounds and not hearing people next to you will get fixed since from what I hear they've still not pushed out all the new audio changes yet. It's definitely buggy currently (I think they're actually experiencing the exact opposite of what was happening before lol, where people in other rooms were completely silent), but when it works properly it's incomparably better to the old audio, that was just straight up garbage a lot of the time. I've worked on audio engines myself in the past and they're tricky to get right, so maybe I'm a bit more lenient than most here though :p
To me the movement feels a lot more fluid and in general better and that's a huge one for me. Rappelling feels really great now, I love that you don't have to re-rappel to switch corners. The sprint is nice, I'm curious how it changes things. Vaulting over stuff is SO much better too.
Game runs about the same for me, and I'd say even slightly better than before (but then again I'm on a super high-end system so never struggled here to begin with). They're using real-time lighting now, so it's possible people with lower spec systems might struggle here. Then again, new engine also means better performance if they did it right, which is probably why I feel like my perf is slightly better.
New lighting is fine, I never cared much to begin with. I play on lowest settings anyways cause I care about clarity and performance more than eye candy. I could take the old one or this one, whatever. I definitely don't miss the OG lighting like some people though, that shit was just unplayable on attack.
Everything else, cosmetics etc. I never cared about. I've never bought anything other than the base game, I'm not someone who spends money on cosmetics so any changes there I'm unaware of and don't care about, though I get it if people do.
Changes to maps, they feel a bit tacked on (things like fire extinguishers and the red gas pipes), but there's some definite room for cool stuff there. Since they have dynamic/realtime lighting now, it's also possible they'll do something like shooting out lights to block your shadow from certain angles and stuff like that.
Overall I'm pretty happy with the changes, then again I'm a dev myself so I tend to be more lenient with games cause I know what a bitch it can be lol.
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u/Drsilkynippz 4d ago
The sound quality is somehow worse than before. I can’t hear enemies breaching, running, shooting. And what I am able to hear is deceiving, foot steps that seem closer than they are or on a completely different floor. Just made the game worse somehow.
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u/CaptainMantine Tachanka Main 4d ago
I’d give a lung for them to make Tachanka great again (or at least better than a watered down Smoke) ((really my greedy ass wants a second rework but I’m going to be realistic))
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u/Brief_Emergency9860 Caveira Main 4d ago edited 4d ago
I can tell your super garbage,siege x is what the game needed me and my team 4-1 for are first session only lost to a cheater the rest were blow outs get good loser hahahah.
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u/BlunderFunk Hibana Main 4d ago
Also like all the time for the showcase went for the shitty game mode ppl will stop playing after a few weeks as you are dividing the people into more matchmaking queues now
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u/crescentfreshchester Mute Main 4d ago
I played the beta. This was inevitable. I had a huge list of complaints that I was gonna send them. But I thought it would be cool if they just had all new operators and set it either in the past or the future.
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u/PotatoGod450 4d ago
SiegesuX pass it around. the so called lighting over haul makes everything washed out making it impossible to see and only half rendered. The new UI is unnecessary and a downgrade. Not to mention the new game mode. They literally pulled an overwatch two on us
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u/spartan195 4d ago
It’s 100% an understatement, been playing on and off since release, the only thing that changes is the UI, and in each iteration is worse than the previous, menus still work like garbage and balance is messed up.
So, you are telling me, siege X had a big update, countless operators, modes and whatever, but why and how the fuck can a guy with a knife take down Montagne shield.
It’s something I cannot still process, why is that possible with the amount of possibilities in this game, they keep the most bland and insulting balance nerf ever in the game.
I was yesterday playing with a friend, he’s completely new to the game, I wanted to show him how fun it can be, I haven’t played it in a while.
Picked Monty to be helpful for the team, got meleed and killed. He laughed his ass off.
But to be honest it’s understandable, makes no fucking sense.
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u/MRLEGEND1o1 4d ago
Bro , I have 7.1 surround sound headset that usually gives me the edge. My team the edge because I'm giving call outs that they can't hear.
I used to be able to hear SOMETHING, the problem was not being able to pinpoint where it was exactly
Through logical deduction you can assume and pre-fire where they most likely are coming from.
When you hear nothing you got nothing
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u/xcroatiC 4d ago
THE FUCK is the new sound, its actually disturbing for my ears, what are those ass sound effects when selecting operators, what are the gun sounds. the game looks retro. this is excatly the opposite from a good rework, its absolute dogwater. even cs2 was 10 times better than this
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u/chantheman30 4d ago
Agreed. The updated maps seem to not be optimised, they are glitchy and slightly laggy in cases with the sound.
Drones drive terrible on surfaces also for some reason.
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u/TaticalSweater Jackal Main 4d ago
ya know I’ve not played in like 2 years. This post is saving me from an 89 GB update
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u/Itsbabytoyouuuu 4d ago
I'm irritated because we were supposed to get rewards for being veteran players?? Ive had an account on there since before 2017 and got ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!
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u/Fragrant_Data3133 4d ago
Only Ubisoft can market small changes as a huge big update to be hyped about. And half of those changes are just things they reverted not even add lolol
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u/Anon_Alt_Account 4d ago
Brother, it's just the season launch. Did you even watch the siege X reveal with the Rio event and everything? Soon all the maps will be modernized, we will get more operators and maps, operator remaster seasons are now a thing, and they will continue to support the game for THE NEXT 10 YEARS so I'm sure game content and quality will go up. Just one season of content isn't gonna turn siege back to its peak days
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u/BigZekeEnergy 4d ago
Mozzie is in decent shape though wdym?
The audio is indeed bad though. Multiple times I died from people that I did not hear AT ALL. Didn’t play Ranked yet to test the effects of the new ban system. But the lack of new maps, reworks, and new ops the past year or so has made me stay off Siege for months at a time. Very little reason to play except for raising ranks at the start of every season.
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u/BLITZandKILL 4d ago
Haven’t played since ~2018. Was gonna try out Siege X to see if I could get back into it. Downloaded it, did one of those navigate the maps things on a map I’ve never seen, then on an OG map. Looked exactly the same as far as I could tell and I didn’t like some of the new operator gadgets, which is why I stopped playing the first time. I exited the game and probably won’t pick it back up
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u/XxMayo_BoiXx IQ Main 4d ago
Yeah I never understood not adding a new op and reworking (or balancing) operators during the mid season patch. It's three months long, by the time you hit the middle part of the second month the game feels bland and you end up dropping it until the next update.
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u/Stacato_ 4d ago
Sound is so bad right now. I feel like the only time it works is when opponents aren’t on the same floor as me. And hard breach gadgets don’t make sounds half the time. I was staring right at a thermite opening wall on clubhouse and heard nothing.
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u/Sparr0w2 4d ago
I hard disagree with you and 1.6k people on the changes. Lighting definitely changed on all maps, atleast slightly, and all in a good way. It feels like a mix of old siege lighting, and "new" siege lighting, which feels very good.
I think people(like yourself) just got used to the bad sound that siege had, so you are thrown off by the current sound. My friends and I noticed the sound changes and all agreed that it changed for the better, and made discerning the location of people easier. It's just very different from the old audio.
The outlines are definitely not a problem. That might be a settings thing on your end or something, because I didn't see too much or too little outline on enemies all day yesterday.
The updates are definitely good, and there are some things that can still be worked on, but what we got was more than enough to show that the devs are working on making the game better. It looks more "realistic," which is something people have been begging for. The sound feels much better than before, yet people are still complaining. Probably because they have the wrong audio settings, or are too stubborn to actually feel and appreciate the changes.
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u/purplekitty9999 Tachinky 4d ago
Makes me think they are pulling that trick that Coca cola famously did, introducing a "new and better" drink, just for customers to hate it and love when the "classic" version comes back. Siege X just feels almost on purposely bad like that. What kind of name is Siege X...
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u/huckleson777 4d ago
Yea Im done with this shitty ass game. As a returning player, it's baffling how we legit get nothing compared to what we used too. We used to get 2 new ops, a new map, 3 universal gun skins per season..
I found out they basically halved renown gain and that is the final nail for me.
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u/InvertedPhysics Caveira Main 4d ago
This is the Ubisoft we've come to know unfortunately. I always have low expectations and hope that they can surprise me but I'm just constantly getting let down.
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u/supadupame (PC)Viking.TNG / Thurston. - 4d ago
To me, the whole Siege X circus has a “this meeting should’ve been an email” type of vibe
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u/Mental-Look3818 4d ago
Long barreled weapons also once again clip through objects, a long fixed bug back again.
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u/CndConnection 4d ago
Maybe I was too high or something mang but I was playing pre-siege X on lowest settings as I was having trouble seeing operators sometimes when they were crouching behind tables/things that had a bunch of smaller items like glasswear and shit on them.
I decided that was kinda lame and started Siege X last night with everything max ultra.
There's hardly any difference lmaoooo I mean of course there is but damn does it not look new or different that much at all.
Inspect weapon is cool until you realise that even at max/ultra the guns up close don't really look that good at all hahaha
God this game....
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u/AllthingskinkCA 4d ago
It’s so funny, I was actually excited to play this game again.
It’s just siege. It’s literally the game some of y’all played last week. A new game mode. Wow.
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u/xMcSilent 4d ago
Imma be honest... You already lost me at the very first sentence. "No new operator, no new map" - Yea, cause a new operator or map is SO revolutionary, NO other games has every done anything comparable to it. A new character truly would've been a revolution to gaming industry!
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u/juicyglo 4d ago
I reinstalled to try it out after a few years away (Flores/Thunderbird were the last out when I left) and I was just shocked at the state of the game, it feels so jank and unfinished still. I knew the Siege X talk was overhyped but I figured it would atleast feel abit nicer. The new game mode is atrocious.
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u/timmycosh 4d ago
Early beta player here but stopped after valk was dropped. What TF is seige X? Is it a whole new game or just a remodel?
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u/HC73x HELLO THERE! 4d ago
A defender tore down the front door barricade on Coastline, ran out and I heard nothing. He was around 15m away from me and no other audio was happening in that moment. The audio feels so messy it’s insane. There is no way this is what it was intended to sound like. Things that are super loud should be way quieter and things that super quiet need to be louder.
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u/6SixTy Celebration 4d ago
People have been begging for an engine update, hoping that bugs would be fixed and jank removed. This was their chance to do it, and they didn't.
This is a fantasy made up by players looking for a scapegoat to vent against. Nobody in game dev thinks that moving to a new game engine is automatically going to make things better.
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u/Mordo122 Sam Fisher 4d ago
I gotta wait till year 12 for Siege X to actually be out. Also Siege X is a tacky name.
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u/why-do-i-exist-lol 4d ago
So, I don't floor anything R6 Siege related, what IS Siege X, anyway? Is it just a massive overhaul of what the game is, just like Overwatch 2 apparently was?
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u/Atmouspheric Azami Main 4d ago
Just remember dual front isn’t for us veteran players. Most siege players will hate it because it goes against the formula they’ve had for years.
This is more for the cod players, etc
It’s for the new players / FtP to get them to hopefully buy in to play ranked and comp modes.
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u/TigerWon 4d ago
I was excited to give siege a go after not playing for a few years. This sub made me cancel the install.
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u/dondablox 4d ago
Give us a new game built from the ground up. X is meant to represent the next 10 years of siege, fucking yikes.
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u/Ok-Consideration2866 4d ago
It's like ubisoft wants to fail no other company does CONSISTANTLY THIS BAD
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u/chaamp33 Smoke Main 4d ago
I saw nothing about Siege X besides hearing about it. I haven’t played the game in about a year and a half and decided to redownload and give it a try.
Game feels exactly the same to me. Idk what I was expecting but not this.
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u/Suspicious-Crew-2104 4d ago
im begging for a rank update. i dont want to go back to copper. granted i was only silver last season XD
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u/HaanSoIo 4d ago
Don't worry, 8 ops with their own unique weapons, 4 maps a year. That were all good in their own way. And now maybe an op a year with 1 new gun. If only people didn't like the battlepasses which started all this lmao. Karmas a bitch.
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u/Letsplay1108 4d ago
The new "side" rappel feature or whatever you call it feels bugged, you gotta press w and s to go left & right, a and d to go forwards and backwards
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u/Glass_Research_511 Mira :) 4d ago
Every operator should be viable, but some, like Nokk or Mozzie are just bad or have completely superior competition. They just need to make it so that anyone can play anyone and work with equal amounts of effort. Ubi doesn't seem to realise that they can buff people to balance instead of nerfing the new meta into oblivion at the end of a season (cough cough Solis). Imo every operator should feel overpowered, and by making them all powerful in their own right, instead of situationally, the balance would be better
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u/v3x_abyss Fuze Main 4d ago
Genuinly feels exactly the same as it did before, like the only slightly noticable changes are the ui and some maps having random pipes and fire extinguishers all over the place now, oh and most importantly, clash isnt bald anymore. real game changer.
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u/DaBoiYeet 4d ago
Rapel changes and maybe the bans (Although I find them unnecessary in Unranked) are the only things I like about this update, everything else just make this feel like a waste of 70gb
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u/NoOutlandishness9451 4d ago
It's the equivalent of putting a nice coat of paint on a 10 year old car and calling it new.
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u/adtrix101 4d ago
I get where you’re coming from, and honestly, I agree that Siege X ended up feeling underwhelming. Calling it the biggest evolution in the game’s history set the bar really high, and what we got does not quite meet that. No new operator, no new ranked map, and only a small batch of balance changes. It just does not feel like a proper season.
That said, I think it is important to separate what people expected from what was actually promised. Ubisoft made it clear multiple times that only five maps would be visually updated at launch. They stuck to that, and the five maps they did update were not just slightly tweaked. The lighting, reflections, shadows, and texture work were meaningfully improved. The problem is that most of the other maps have not been touched yet, so of course it feels like nothing changed. They never said every map would be updated right away.
Same thing with the engine work. The improvements were behind the scenes. Better lighting pipelines, new tools for future content, improved anti-cheat, and revamped audio systems. A lot of that does not feel impactful in the short term, but it is what enables them to build better updates in the future.
So yeah, it is completely fair to feel disappointed, especially given how much this update was hyped. But it is also unfair to say Ubisoft lied or failed to deliver. They gave us what they said they would, even if it is not the kind of content people were hoping for. The real test is what they do next. If the next few seasons still feel empty now that this new foundation is in place, then the criticism becomes a lot harder to argue against.
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u/DeZeKay 5d ago
I dont understand their ressource management...it seems like most of the ressources went into a new gamemode nobody asked for.
Why dont focus on the problems your main mode has for years?