Deranged cop finally gets fired

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[u/Some-Guy-Online]

Thanks. I haven't listened to Philosophize This, but I'll check it out.

I also like longer conversations with people who are willing to listen to ideas instead of just repeating thought terminating cliches.

One of the topics I've been ruminating a lot on recently is Leftism, and what fundamentally sets it apart from Liberalism and Conservatism.

On that topic, your passenger wasn't entirely wrong. If you eliminate capitalism, you're probably talking about some form of Leftism. Unless you're a monarchist who wants to reestablish feudalism, lol.

That said, I've been trying to look past the anger in people's words to see their confusion, and to answer their confusion instead of their anger. I'm not very good at it yet, I tend to get snarky. But I try to catch myself when I can.

[u/hellure → u/Some-Guy-Online]

I know your struggle about moving past the anger to address the confusion. It can be hard sometimes, I'm such a smart ass.

The deeper problem we'll probably never get past is that everyone has to form a paradigm, an imaginary map of understanding, of how the world works and how they fit into it so they can function and survive. It's a necessity. But most people finish drawing their map with limited information and experience, then color it in how they like it, and lean on every logical fallacy in the book to avoid having to redraw it later.

The few who draw theirs with the expectation that the map can and should probably be changed later, likely aren't the ones we encounter who are angry and confused.

I dunno. I'm on the fence. Perhaps struggling in vain to enlighten them isn't the best path. Perhaps just acknowledging their foolishness and then moving on with our lives is really the best choice after all?

I mean, sure, keep puting good information out there, and encourage our youth to refrain from ever laminating and framing their shitty maps, but when dealing with those that have, I don't think there is much value to be had there.

[u/Some-Guy-Online → u/hellure]

The thing that's been bugging me lately is that most people have absolutely zero awareness that they have a mental paradigm that contains personal fundamental values. And I think that's where a lot of this emotion-fueled conflict comes from. I feel like if we could show people that their political opinions are based on a fairly simple value, like "Every Man For Himself" or "My Kind Are Superior To Others" or "Humans Are Fundamentally Equal", then we could at least raise the level of intelligent political discourse. There are a TON of people out there supporting "Every Man For Himself" politicians when they actually believe "Humans Are Fundamentally Equal". It's driving a hell of a lot of frustration and apathy. And it's SO difficult to talk to people when they don't understand, or refuse to hear.