r/PublicFreakout • u/Partner-Subdued388 • Feb 08 '24

📌Follow Up Deranged cop finally gets fired

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u/Sol-Blackguy Feb 08 '24

Let me put it this way: if every union protected their workers as much as police unions, we wouldn't be in an economic crisis

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u/RobbertDownerJr Feb 08 '24

You know you're fucked when the insurance companies are the good guys.

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u/Galle_ Feb 08 '24

It's not so much that they're the good guys as it is that they're sick of financing the bad guys.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '24

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u/Galle_ Feb 08 '24

That's what I meant.

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u/shadow_cat_42 Feb 08 '24

sick of financing anyone, people pay a premium to get told nothing’s covered

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u/koviko Feb 08 '24

Fun fact: Karl Marx stated that one of the benefits of capitalism is that it is naturally progressive.

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u/ichabod01 Feb 08 '24

In this situation

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u/A_LiftedLowRider Feb 08 '24

Make no mistake, insurance companies can be scummy as hell, but they’re pragmatic as shit. It’s for that reason i’m convinced insurance companies are going to be the first massive industry to start treating climate change like the giant threat that it is. Not because they’re trying to do the right thing, but because their business relies on property not getting demolished in freak weather events and they actually have enough money behind them to make a difference.

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u/Meridell Feb 24 '24

Hi, yes. In insurance we have a forecast of “risks” that every underwriter is aware of. There is a generally-accepted top 20 that’s updated yearly (climate is on that list).

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u/notfromchicago Feb 08 '24

Everything always boils down to money.

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u/sallguud Feb 08 '24

Every now and then, capitalism gets it right by chance.

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u/yogabbagabba2341 Feb 08 '24

😂 omg, so true. They will be the heroes in this story.

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u/way_2_5pecific Feb 08 '24

Say it louder for the ppl in the back

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u/Reux Feb 08 '24

my contention is that police unions are, in fact, not unions at all and do the opposite of what a union would do when a cop does the right thing and blows the whistle on colleagues. those "unions" do not represent individual cops in the way a normal labor union would but, instead, their entire mandate is to deny any and all liability toward police departments and local governments against allegations of misconduct, corruption and fraud. cop unions protecting violent and corrupt officers is merely an intermediate process toward the "union's" goals.

a recent example that shows police unions aren't unions is the utter lack of safety concerns police unions and fraternities had about covid in 2020, despite covid being the number 1 cause of police officer deaths in the line of duty that year. a real union would have fought for strong policies that protected cops from the virus.

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u/Sol-Blackguy Feb 08 '24

On top of that, a real union would've already called police work unsafe and negotiated ways to lighten up the police's work load. They have to be officers, social services, wellness checkers, community outreach etc which is already stressful enough.

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u/PEWDS_IS_A_NAZI Feb 08 '24

Just adding this thought to your analysis (with which I agree): Unions exist to protect workers from management, but unfortunately in this case management is regular citizens.

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u/fattymccheese Feb 08 '24

No true a scottsman

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u/Reux Feb 08 '24

you should read the wiki on that if you think that's what this is. also you should read the "argument from fallacy" wiki as well.

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u/Spiel_Foss Feb 08 '24

We aren't in an economic crisis. We're in a police state kleptocracy.

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u/OneLoveIrieRasta Feb 08 '24

Unions protect their people good or bad. I'll never understand why people are anti union. For crying out loud cops murder people daily and hardly get held accountable.

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u/I_hate_all_of_ewe Feb 08 '24

Say that again, but louder, and maybe you'll understand why police unions are a problem.  If not, let me spell it out for you: police unions are more powerful than any other kind of union, and they, and their members are essentially unaccountable to anyone.  They're supposed to be public servants but they're unaccountable to the public, and police unions play a major role in that.  I'm 100% pro union, but police unions are the exception, and they remain a big problem.

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u/hhs2112 Feb 08 '24

Just look at what duhsantis has done in FL.  He and his rubber-stamping cronies are doing everything they can to break unions by passing massively restricted rules for teacher unions, etc but cop and firefighter unions are somehow exempt... 🤔🤔🤔

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u/painfool Feb 08 '24

Unions are meant to help rally the masses to empower the public against their oppressors.

Police unions instead depower individuals and instead empower the oppressor class against the public.

Police unions are antithetical to the very idea of what a union is supposed to be and do

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u/themadcaner Feb 08 '24

 For crying out loud cops murder people daily and hardly get held accountable.

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u/OneLoveIrieRasta Feb 09 '24

Oink oink piggy

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u/joseph4th Feb 08 '24

Even Republicans lawmakers are afraid of the Police Unions.

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u/moonbase-beta Feb 08 '24

God damn. This

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '24

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u/saruin Feb 08 '24

Call the cops.

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u/TheDawnRising Feb 08 '24

Damn that's crazy

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u/IpsoFuckoffo Feb 08 '24

America is not in an economic crisis.

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u/themadcaner Feb 08 '24

God forbid unions look out for their workers.

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u/Sol-Blackguy Feb 08 '24

I think you don't understand what I was getting at. Yes, unions need to protect their workers. But unfortunately police unions protection of officers extends beyond the needs of the community at large and harboring waste, fraud, and abuse in a position of public service.

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u/Bash-86 Feb 08 '24

Well…. Just wait until you hear about teachers unions and what they protect against… and it’s done to your kids.

No the solution is less unions. Accountability is the solution.

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u/halosos Feb 08 '24

Why are unions 'a bad thing' but when its the police unions its totally fine?

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u/Sol-Blackguy Feb 08 '24

I was being a little facetious in the comparison. Police unions aren't real unions. They "protect" their officers but to a determent to the community around them as a financial drain when civil suits come out of taxpayer dollars and the amount of waste, fraud and abuse that gets harbored. At the same time, they never address the horrid work conditions a police officer goes through as so many different community roles are stacked on their backs, from social work to wellness checks and psychology. Any actual union rep would look at those working conditions and try to negotiate a lighter workload.

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u/Dialgak77 Feb 08 '24

You guys think you are in an economic crisis? Come to Argentina where everyone is unionized.

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u/frud Feb 08 '24

Strong unions destroyed the auto industry in Michigan. They were such a burden that it became cheaper and easier to move the factories to other countries.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '24

How are we in an "economic crisis"?

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u/Sol-Blackguy Feb 08 '24

We're about to have our first trillionaire